My last 7 to 10 days of contest prep

[the natural one]

Here you go my 7 to 10 day precontest prep.

Some people want to know how I get dry, tight, and look full the last 7 to 10 days.

Assuming competition is on Saturday
Day 10,9,8 - Protein intake is 400grams consisting of chicken and fish in the PM and eggwhites in the AM. Carb's are around 200 grams. Do I completly cut my carbs as I get closer to the show? Never cut the carbs, it slows down the fat burning process. Also some people card deplete so much to where they can't put enough carbs in there system in time for the show so there muscle bellies won't look full. Carbs consists of oatmeal and brown rice in the early am and before noon sweet potato. No carbs after noon. Except Asparagus to drop the subcutaneuos water
Training is 30 to 45 minutes. Rep range is anywhere from 25 to 50 per set. Alot of tri and quad sets. Meaning 3 to 4 exercises right after another. I am trying to burn up the most glycogen I can. As I start my carb depletion.
Cardio is no longer done.
Posing is 30 minutes in the AM, 30 minutes in the PM and in between every set.
Water consumption is 1 gallon for the day
Tanning is done twice per day for 20 minutes. This also helps drop the subcutaneous water.
Day 7 - Protein intake is at 450 grams consisting of only egg whites (lana's egg whites) in the Am and Fish in the PM (talipia or orange roughy). Carbs are at 150, consisting of oatmeal and sweet potato and asparagus again only. The reason I still use oatmeal because the amount of protein consumed it keeps me regular.
Training is still 30 to 45 minutes. Rep range is now anywhere from 50 to 75 per set. The same alot of tri and quad set sets
Sodium load - salt everything I eat.
No cardio
Posing is still 30 minutes both am,pm.
Water consumption is up to 1 gallon and half
Tanning is still the same twice per day
Day 6 - Protein intake remains the same. Carbs remain the same. Posing remains the same.
Water is now 2 gallons for the day. Tanning is the same. Training is the same
Sodium load - salt everything I eat
Day 4 and 5 - Protein intake remains the same. Carbs are now 100 grams. Oatmeal and sweet potato in the AM, no carbs after noon.
Training remains the same. Posing remains the same. Tanning remains the same. Water consumption is 1/2 gallon, as i began the faze to drop my water.
2 coats of protan on days 4 and 5, am and pm
Sodium load - salt everything I eat.
Day 3 - The fun part begins. Carbing up. Protein intake drops to 200 grams and carb intake goes up to 500 grams starting at 5am til 2 pm after 2 pm no complex carbs just asparagus to keep dropping subcutaneous water. Carbs consists of very dry oatmeal. Sweet potato. Japanese white rice.
No training on these days. Just posing this remains the same.
Water consumption is 16oz for the entire day.
Tanning is once per day to still keep dropping the subcutaneous water.
Protan is twice per day in the am and pm.
Day 2 - Protein intake is 200 grams and carb intake goes up to 700 to 900 grams mainly of very dry oatmeal and japanese white rice dry. no more asparagus. Carbs are consumed slowly all day long.
No training, No water, No tanning, Posing remains the same. Relax.
Protan - 2 more coats in the am and pm
Day of show - up at 4am - start carbing up again dry pancakes with no syrup and dry oatmeal only jelly used on oatmeal and pancakes. no need for protein. after breakfast carb up with sweet potato.
6oz of water is consumed with nanox9 brings out the pump and vascularity 1 hour before stepping on stage.
1st coat of Jan Tana in the early Am. Then 30 minutes before i go on another coat of jan tana and a light oil sheen.
And thats all she wrote

[Muscle-T-17yrs]

well said man! U look huge btw! Im definetly keeping this info when i compete in fact im gonan go print it off right now

reps for u

[Cytrainer913]

Lots of NOT really good info here and will backfire on most natural BB's.

[RBEliminator]

Originally Posted by Cytrainer913

Lots of NOT really good info here and will backfire on most natural BB's.

I agree, Kiyoshi is a TOP natural bber. But at the same time most Natural's will not respond well to this drastic of a deplete/carb load.

Keep doing what your doing Kiyoshi, but just remember to the rest of you that everyone is different, and what may work well for Mr. Moody may not work AT ALL for someone else.

[Captain Sagara]

I would spill over with a carb up of 700-900(anyway seems fun)...

[Cytrainer913]

I think almost any natural BB would spillover on this prep, promise you that!

[MattyH7688]

lol 900 carbs.. i would look like pure garbage

thats how many carbs i ate in the last 3 weeks lol

[cmamath13]

Originally Posted by Cytrainer913

I think almost any natural BB would spillover on this prep, promise you that!

I was about to reply that your comment was a bold one, but then I reread it. Your use of the "almost" quantifier makes the statement makes it more palatable .

How do you know that this is the case? Mr. Moody is obviously an incredible natural athlete, but how do you know that most natural bodybuilders would not response so well. Couldn't there exist another method, different from yours, that is effective?

[Cytrainer913]

their is only so much glycogen the muscles can store and very few can live by this and you better be some sort of ectomorph for this is to even be the case, but carbs with some sort of control to your bodytype(you better be one severe ecto), but not this many carbs, please, OK? This is the typical old school or IFBB kind of carbing up and carbs will not hold on for that long and and don't need that much time to fill you out and will not work properly w/o the water. And then to cut water, water is the key to leave in, so don't cut it out, your playing Russian roulette with your time up on stage.

[cmamath13]

I understand what you are saying and you know I respect your opinion. As you know, I just PM'ed you the other day about breakfast nutrition.

I just found your post to be "bullyish" to Mr. Moody. He was just posting what he did for his contest. You can't argue that it worked will for him. Can you?

[Cytrainer913]

And a very unhealthy one to only take in 22 oz of water for almost 3 days?

With little to no scientific backing to use these methods and from what I have heard form many of the top Natural pros is to not be out in the sun from Wednesday on as this can really keep extra fluids in the skin and not in the muscle as well.

To take in that many carbs for that many days before a show is just in excess for almost anyone, and to put that out there and for certain yournger kids to see that is just not safe IMO, that's all thinkin that if they do the ame thing they will lok like that. Younger kids are lead so easily wih this diet stuff and thats the one's i am talking about, the ones under 20 especially.

[cmamath13]

Ok, that's fair enough. I see your point, particularly about watching out for young people.

Thanks.

[Flynn]

Originally Posted by the natural one

Here you go my 7 to 10 day precontest prep. Some people want to know how I get dry, tight, and look full the last 7 to 10 days.

Originally Posted by Cytrainer913

...to put that out there and for certain yournger kids to see that is just not safe IMO, that's all thinkin that if they do the ame thing they will lok like that. Younger kids are lead so easily wih this diet stuff and thats the one's i am talking about, the ones under 20 especially.

While I'm no expert by stretch of anyone's imagination, he was obviously responding to a question(s) posed to him, i.e., Some people want to know how I...! He shouldn't be chastise for stating what works for him whether or not people agree w/his methods or find them controversial.

He should not be censored or censor himself when asked a direct question because what 'some' may or may not do...that's going down a "slippery slope". If he had stated this is what I think "others" should do or I recommend, then he would've opened himself up to debate but that wasn't/isn't the case.

To be clear, I'm not arguing the merits of what he is doing or has done, beyond my area of expertise, but the implication that what he's doing for his contest prep is "endangering" others, particularly "kids".

[Cytrainer913]

Originally Posted by Flynn

While I'm no expert by stretch of anyone's imagination, he was obviously responding to a question(s) posed to him, i.e., Some people want to know how I...! He shouldn't be chastise for stating what works for him whether or not people agree w/his methods or find them controversial.

He should not be censored or censor himself when asked a direct question because what 'some' may or may not do...that's going down a "slippery slope". If he had stated this is what I think "others" should do or I recommend, then he would've opened himself up to debate but that wasn't/isn't the case.

To be clear, I'm not arguing the merits of what he is doing or has done, beyond my area of expertise, but the implication that what he's doing for his contest prep is "endangering" others, particularly "kids".

Too bad, too many of us when young don't do the research on really prepping for a show cause there really is a lot good scinetifically based info tou there for us to get our hands on. Layne and Dr. Joe have worked so hard to make this prep a lot easier on you by showing you the truths of contest prep and what out there is just "myth". Health vs. getting sick, I will take the healthier way.

Younger BB's that are trying to gain any kind of extra edge, and will read this and think it will work for them and they have little to no knowledge of what really works and then you ut this out there with this incredible package of a picture, then the youth read this stuff and this just puts us 10 steps back and then again no progress with all the science and the knowledge that is out there, again fighting science with these statements and yet another one will have to learn if he/she tries to do a prep similar to Mr. Moody. Just don't think this is really good info, obviously it worked for him, but in realty it is going against all scientific data and how water should be kept in and if you think that drinking 22 oz of water is a healthy thing, then that's just wrong! Sorry, can't see you doing that for your contest prep. My prep is healthy and would never put myself at risk with no water at all on those days alng with plenty of sodium as well. And then to think that all those carbs are going to mysteriuously end up in your muscles without water, mind as well be a magician. You have to be careful out there what you put out there, cause its very easy to be sucked into what works for others even if not all that healthy.

[the natural one]

Originally Posted by Cytrainer913

Too bad, too many of us when young don't do the research on really prepping for a show cause there really is a lot good scinetifically based info tou there for us to get our hands on. Layne and Dr. Joe have worked so hard to make this prep a lot easier on you by showing you the truths of contest prep and what out there is just "myth". Health vs. getting sick, I will take the healthier way.

Younger BB's that are trying to gain any kind of extra edge, and will read this and think it will work for them and they have little to no knowledge of what really works and then you ut this out there with this incredible package of a picture, then the youth read this stuff and this just puts us 10 steps back and then again no progress with all the science and the knowledge that is out there, again fighting science with these statements and yet another one will have to learn if he/she tries to do a prep similar to Mr. Moody. Just don't think this is really good info, obviously it worked for him, but in realty it is going against all scientific data and how water should be kept in and if you think that drinking 22 oz of water is a healthy thing, then that's just wrong! Sorry, can't see you doing that for your contest prep. My prep is healthy and would never put myself at risk with no water at all on those days alng with plenty of sodium as well. And then to think that all those carbs are going to mysteriuously end up in your muscles without water, mind as well be a magician. You have to be careful out there what you put out there, cause its very easy to be sucked into what works for others even if not all that healthy.

Well to respond to all the criticism that I have received. I was answering a question that was asked of me. I am sure you can agree with me on this. Everyone reacts different to different typs of diets, supplements etc. What works for me, may not work for you. Bodybuilding is trial and error. To come in the best shape, condition etc for one day is what I am trying to acheive.

Also the comment about younger kids reading this if they were to ask me about this diet, would I recommended it to them? The answer? No. Like I said everyone is different. I have been in the fitness industry since 1989 I have tried different methods, diets, supplements etc. I have found this is what works for me.

When you talk about dropping water, I tried an experiment because I have read about it so much in different journals, books etc. Yes carbs do need water. So when I cut my water. The carbs pill the water from the subcutaneous layer from my body. Yes some believe that this dosnt happen. hmm. Well it has worked for myself.

The result 6 shows this year, 5 overalls against very tough competition 6 class wins, including the NPC Team Universe. Also I am a Pro in the PNBA. Like I said this works for me, will it work for you. Trial and Error

Have I ever been sick in my contest prep, NEVER, Have I ever been dead tired where I can't move never. The carbs I take in are spread over a 24 hour period, meaning I wake up in the middle of the night a couple of times to eat!! Going against scientific data. I always do. From the day the doctors told me when I broke my ankle I would never be able to sprint again at the same level, hmm the result Qualified for the US Olympic trials in the 100m, doctors told me after 2 acl surgeries I couldt play pro football again, result I played for the St.Louis Rams in 97. So I geuss the only one that knows my body is me. The doctors, scientists or whoever else that comes up with how the body is suppose to react and what it's suppose to do are stuck in that same old as you say "old school mentality".

I have all done this the natural way 100% like I said before Trial and Error!! am I saying that Layne and Dr.Joe are wrong? NO. Everyone is different. If you want to be the best, You have to find what works best for you. whether it's training, diet, supplements etc..

[the natural one]

One last thing I will post my workouts, which will completly floor you and you will probably tell me the same thing. I am going against data.

[Blahzay128]

The bottom line is that everyone is different...I can tell you that in MY experience last yr....for my first show I cut water similarly to what you listed here....I felt like $hit and it did nothing for my physique...Looked much better a week earlier when I was pounding 2 gals. a day....Obviously, "the natural one" is on a much different level than me as far as bodybuilding and competing...and this has obviously worked for him...so nothing can be taken away from him.....

I'm using Layne this yr. for contest prep (a few shows in Oct.)...thus far prep has gone much smoother and I have zero complaints and all the confidence in the world in him....I also am glad I won't have to go through dehydration hell again....This cut water debate is becoming quite the controversy.

[Blahzay128]

Another quick question....No disrespect AT ALL.....Have you always been natural?

[the natural one]

Originally Posted by Blahzay128

Another quick question....No disrespect AT ALL.....Have you always been natural?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is a wrong way and a right way. All I'm saying is that this has worked well for me. Let me also point out in my contest prep I myself never feel terrible or dehydrated. Maybe thats just me. Like I said everyone is different.

To answer your question, Yes I have always been 100% natural. I know alot of people doubt that I'm natural, it's ok. Anytime you don't look like the average person people assume your on something or have taken something in the past.

Anytime you have a question ask away thats what we are here for !!!

[Quelly]

Originally Posted by the natural one

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there is a wrong way and a right way. All I'm saying is that this has worked well for me. Let me also point out in my contest prep I myself never feel terrible or dehydrated. Maybe thats just me. Like I said everyone is different.

To answer your question, Yes I have always been 100% natural. I know alot of people doubt that I'm natural, it's ok. Anytime you don't look like the average person people assume your on something or have taken something in the past.

Anytime you have a question ask away thats what we are here for !!!

how about prohormones and andro and what not? I know the PNBA/INBA/ABA allows most of them, if you dont me asking

[the natural one]

Originally Posted by Quelly

how about prohormones and andro and what not? I know the PNBA/INBA/ABA allows most of them, if you dont me asking

I took prohormones back in 98, by ergopharm, I believe it was 1AD, I took that for 1 month and didnt like the way it made me feel. Back then ABA/INBA/PNBA was not testing for this. Now is another story any type of andro or pro hormones is now banned by them. I havent taken any prohormoes or andros since 98. Anything close that I take is zinc and magnesium. Ask away Quelly. anytime bro!!!

[Quelly]

Originally Posted by the natural one

I took prohormones back in 98, by ergopharm, I believe it was 1AD, I took that for 1 month and didnt like the way it made me feel. Back then ABA/INBA/PNBA was not testing for this. Now is another story any type of andro or pro hormones is now banned by them. I havent taken any prohormoes or andros since 98. Anything close that I take is zinc and magnesium. Ask away Quelly. anytime bro!!!

you're an inspiration chief, just keep doing what you're doing

[Blahzay128]

Gotcha.....I'd take it as a compliment if people always thought I was on steroids....so props to you!..means you are doing something right...seriously sick physique.