Does Mono really decay in water that quickly?

randyrandal · 08-02-2007, 05:40 PM

Because if it does then I'm forced to take pills instead of powder. I wanted to add some creatine to my post workout shake but since I cannot drink the whole shake within a few seconds but drink it on my way back in 10-15 minutes the creatine would most likely already have turned into creatinine in this time.

Docta J · 08-02-2007, 05:43 PM

I really don't believe that creatine turns to creatinine that fast. If you put it in your post-workout shake and you can down it in 10 minutes or so you should be just fine

Ke422azn · 08-02-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aleemdj2005

I really don't believe that creatine turns to creatinine that fast. If you put it in your post-workout shake and you can down it in 10 minutes or so you should be just fine

Well considering they sell liquid creatine, it obviously degrades very slow.

If its been sitting on a shelf for months, and still have creatine in it, I think you can keep it in your drink for 15 minutes, LOL.

Docta J · 08-02-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ke422azn

Well considering they sell liquid creatine, it obviously degrades very slow.

If its been sitting on a shelf for months, and still have creatine in it, I think you can keep it in your drink for 15 minutes, LOL.

I'm pretty sure liquid creatine is bullsh*t. When I say that I don't mean it doesn't exist, I just mean that it doesn't work at all if I'm not mistaken.

AConrad00 · 08-02-2007, 09:18 PM

creatine is stable for up to 8 hours in water

search pubmed for studies

pjmartini51 · 08-02-2007, 09:20 PM

yeah creatine will last for a few hours, when i took mono (5g) teaspoon servings, i would get unflavored i would put the teaspoon of it in my mouth and then down it with a gulp of water.

ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION · 08-02-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randyrandal

Because if it does then I'm forced to take pills instead of powder. I wanted to add some creatine to my post workout shake but since I cannot drink the whole shake within a few seconds but drink it on my way back in 10-15 minutes the creatine would most likely already have turned into creatinine in this time.

NO it does not and is VERY stable at quite a large pH range.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tallon8.htm

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Check this article out.

dvsness · 08-02-2007, 09:42 PM

This should help with noting the stability of creatine.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3160641

AConrad00 · 08-02-2007, 09:51 PM

nice link dvsness

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In aqueous solutions creatine is relatively stable for up to 8 hours at 25?C at a pH of 7.5 or 6.5. Breakdown after 3 days at pH 5.5, 4.5, and 3.5 was 4%, 12% and 21%, respectively (Diagram 4).

look up 4 posts

Two|Bit · 08-02-2007, 09:51 PM

Doesn't it degrade like 3% over a period of 3 hours or something? I doubt anybody leaves it longer for 5 seconds in water lol..you'd have to try hard to mess it up.

dvsness · 08-02-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by aleemdj2005

I'm pretty sure liquid creatine is bullsh*t. When I say that I don't mean it doesn't exist, I just mean that it doesn't work at all if I'm not mistaken.

You're not mistaken. It has been 'debunked'.

Docta J · 08-02-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dvsness

You're not mistaken. It has been 'debunked'.

I knew I saw that somewhere! lol thanks

EvanRoberts · 08-02-2007, 10:15 PM

so mono is just as effective as all the other creatines?? and cheaper too?

Docta J · 08-02-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EvanRoberts

so mono is just as effective as all the other creatines?? and cheaper too?

Creatine Monohydrate has more science backing it than any other form of creatine, so one could argue its more effective if anything. And yes it is very cheap. It is one of the most effective and proven supplements around and it is also one of the cheapest

EvanRoberts · 08-02-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aleemdj2005

Creatine Monohydrate has more science backing it than any other form of creatine, so one could argue its more effective if anything. And yes it is very cheap. It is one of the most effective and proven supplements around and it is also one of the cheapest

well wtf am I doing with green mag, sizeon, and cellmass? Im going mono next cycle. I thought mono was ****ty or something

deserusan · 08-02-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EvanRoberts

well wtf am I doing with green mag, sizeon, and cellmass? Im going mono next cycle. I thought mono was ****ty or something

SizeON contains some mono yo! Greenmag also contains MCC which is studied as well. As for products that contain CEE, they are crap and based on psuedoscience which has been called teh fook out!

1quick1 · 08-02-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by deserusan

Greenmag also contains MCC which is studied as well.

Do you have the link? I haven't read it yet.

randyrandal · 08-03-2007, 08:19 AM

So it would be okay if I put the creatine in my post workout shake together with dextrose and whey and then drink it in 10 minutes?

Or should I take the creatine before or after the post workout shake? Because I heard that you shouldn't take the creatine together with the fast carbs because either the creatine or the fast carbs take longer to reach the blood and if you take it together then you either have an insuline spike and the creatine is still in the stomach or you have the creatine in your blood and the fast carbs still in the stomach. I hope you get what I am trying to say. Is this true?

dvsness · 08-03-2007, 08:44 AM

Creatine is fine in your shake. Enjoy.

zachattack43 · 08-03-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by randyrandal

Because if it does then I'm forced to take pills instead of powder. I wanted to add some creatine to my post workout shake but since I cannot drink the whole shake within a few seconds but drink it on my way back in 10-15 minutes the creatine would most likely already have turned into creatinine in this time.

its fine, you have hours to drink it if it is left at room temp

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Originally Posted by randyrandal

So it would be okay if I put the creatine in my post workout shake together with dextrose and whey and then drink it in 10 minutes?

Or should I take the creatine before or after the post workout shake? Because I heard that you shouldn't take the creatine together with the fast carbs because either the creatine or the fast carbs take longer to reach the blood and if you take it together then you either have an insuline spike and the creatine is still in the stomach or you have the creatine in your blood and the fast carbs still in the stomach. I hope you get what I am trying to say. Is this true?

yea that is fine

randyrandal · 08-03-2007, 12:05 PM

Thanks

Swole1775 · 08-03-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EvanRoberts

so mono is just as effective as all the other creatines?? and cheaper too?

mono is probably your best bet when it comes to creatine. Most research has been done on this particular creatine, and its effectiveness has been proven overtime. Yes its also more cost effective.