SERIOUS SHOULDER QUESTION Please help.

JOEYTISH · 07-31-2007, 11:16 PM

from a back view my shoulders look pretty big , but the front view of my shoulders is not filled in so it makes me look some what skinny,

for instance heres a picture http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2046/untitledsh9.jpg

the two circled area's is what makes my shoulders look skinny from the front

i would like to fill that in. so i cant even see my collar bone

Deathhawk · 07-31-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JOEYTISH

from a back view my shoulders look pretty big , but the front view of my shoulders is not filled in so it makes me look some what skinny,

for instance heres a picture http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2046/untitledsh9.jpg

the two circled area's is what makes my shoulders look skinny from the front

i would like to fill that in. so i cant even see my collar bone

Those aren't your delts. You need to build your upper pecs. I suggest doing incline DB presses.

Heaney · 08-01-2007, 12:13 AM

you circled your collarbone not delts...work on your upper chest to fill that in

Classified09 · 08-01-2007, 12:19 AM

LoL that made me laugh (the circling of the collar bone and such)

You want a bigger upper body. Your gunna need to hit your upper chest do some serious military presses and throw some shrugs in there for your traps.

gl

Deathhawk · 08-01-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Classified09

LoL that made me laugh (the circling of the collar bone and such)

You want a bigger upper body. Your gunna need to hit your upper chest do some serious military presses and throw some shrugs in there for your traps.

gl

How good are military presses for the upper pecs? I know it uses them to some degree, but I thought it was like 95% delts.

Maxum · 08-01-2007, 12:50 AM

That's a pretty big penor. Why did you put black pen on the balls though?

Snowman723 · 08-01-2007, 12:54 AM

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How good are military presses for the upper pecs? I know it uses them to some degree, but I thought it was like 95% delts.

Military Press is not an upper pecs movement

Do Incline Bench(both BB & DB) and incline flyes

Deathhawk · 08-01-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman723

Military Press is not an upper pecs movement

Do Incline Bench(both BB & DB) and incline flyes

I know. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't anything I was missing from Classified09's post. Like I said, it's like 95% delts.

Baker19 · 08-01-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathhawk

I know. I just wanted to be sure there wasn't anything I was missing from Classified09's post. Like I said, it's like 95% delts.

Ya buy obviously the pecs stretch (bottom of MP) and contract (top of MP) so they get worked in it, especially if you arch your back like I do when I MP.. (I wear a belt)

SpoofRocket · 08-01-2007, 12:36 PM

you need to work your upper chest. you also need to try some shrugs.

Delgadido · 08-01-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoofRocket

you need to work your upper chest. you also need to try some shrugs.

x2

BIG_prom · 08-01-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathhawk

Those aren't your delts. You need to build your upper pecs. I suggest doing incline DB presses.

def. upper pecs need the work. do incline bench in you routine and it should fill out.

ibw5002 · 08-01-2007, 03:40 PM

incline dumbell flyes...along with incline bench press

welshace13 · 08-01-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman723

Military Press is not an upper pecs movement

Do Incline Bench(both BB & DB) and incline flyes

its not a upper pec movement but it definatly does hit them to some degree.

and ye buddy focus on the upper pecs and traps, get some military pressing, deadlifting and incline barbell press, i wouldnt use dumbell as u can use more weight with BB, more weight more chance of mass.

Slyy · 08-01-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by welshace13

its not a upper pec movement but it definatly does hit them to some degree.

and ye buddy focus on the upper pecs and traps, get some military pressing, deadlifting and incline barbell press, i wouldnt use dumbell as u can use more weight with BB, more weight more chance of mass.

WRONG,
dont tell him more weight = more mass , its all about form and hitting the desired rep/set to spark hyp.trophy ....

welshace13 · 08-01-2007, 04:30 PM

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WRONG,
dont tell him more weight = more mass , its all about form and hitting the desired rep/set to spark hyp.trophy ....

well have you ever relized rippetoe and Bill Stars 5x5 dont ask you to use DB in bench press... the say USE BB as you can use more weight which will lead to quicker muscle gains, these routines add loads of size, so how can you say thats rong? good weight with the right amount of volume = stimulation for growth

Slyy · 08-01-2007, 05:20 PM

i was saying wrong because, you made it seem like if you lift alot of weight youl gain mass, which is wrong, you need propper form, reps,and sets to get massive hyp. gains, but i see you just worded wrong.

Slyy · 08-01-2007, 05:21 PM

yes, obviously you need to train with weight that is not light for you to gain mass, BUT it must be preformed in the proper rep/set range along with proper form.

Baker19 · 08-01-2007, 05:25 PM

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yes, obviously you need to train with weight that is not light for you to gain mass, BUT it must be preformed in the proper rep/set range along with proper form.

Rep range doesnt mean anything if your diet is ****, and all other aspects of life.

Slyy · 08-01-2007, 05:29 PM

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Rep range doesnt mean anything if your diet is ****, and all other aspects of life.

also true, i dont care how dedicated you are in the gym, if your diet sucks, and your not resting enough, etc your f%cked.

welshace13 · 08-02-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Slyy

i was saying wrong because, you made it seem like if you lift alot of weight youl gain mass, which is wrong, you need propper form, reps,and sets to get massive hyp. gains, but i see you just worded wrong.

ah i see, ye well lifting heavy weight low volume wont make you big... the route ive taken just to be strong and not big.

but he wants to be lifting a good weight for a fair bit of volume (not powerlifting style heavy, 70-80% of your max id say), so as you said a good set/rep scheme with decent weight. Plenty of rest good diet and itl all be good.