What do you guys think of Benny Hinn?

[kickbackking]

Ok we've all seen this dude on TV.... i think hes a BS artist- but perhaps directed towards christians- what do you think of him? Anyone believe he performs miracles??

[frankenstein]

Total BS artist. I've read how often times at the front of the audience there will be a bunch of people in wheelchairs who want to be 'healed' on stage. He doesn't dare try performing his so called healing through the Holy Spirit on them because it would expose him as BS immediately.

Any person claiming to know what God wants or to have the ability to act as a conduit through which God speaks or performs miracles is trying to sell you something in the end. Meanwhile they'll live in a multi-million dollar mansion. Not exactly pious living to follow in the footsteps of Christ.

[farmerlee]

I really don't know. I remember hearing someone say that benny hinn would travel to these crusades in a flash limousine which didn't sound quite right to me. I'd like to think he's legit but i must admit that i do get a bad feeling about him when i watch his show.

It is unfortunate that the false preachers that are out there give such a bad name to all the televangelists.

[striker543]

dunno i've heard more bad than good, like he dabbles in the occult and he also makes outrageous prophecies like Jesus appearing on stage that he can never deliver on.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html

I'd give him a wide berth, maybe he's misguided but I don't listen or support him

[AKR]

there's no real question about it. a simple google search will tell you all you need to know.

http://www.corporatenarc.com/bennyhinnfraud.php

Benny Hinn terms his vacations "layovers" because they are considered legitimate business expenses. These layovers include multiple night stays at $10,000 per night hotels, $2000 meals and lavish shopping sprees.

Hinn's house cost $3.5 million to build, has 7 bedrooms, 8 baths, and includes 6,000 square feet, a view of the Pacific and room for five cars in its underground garage. Benny prefers BMWs.

All of the money to fuel Hinn's expenses and perks comes from contributions to his tax-exempt ministry.

yeah, i'm sure jesus would rather he piss his money away with ridiculously expensive things, instead of using it to further the mission of jesus.

[adilrockstar]

Originally Posted by kickbackking

Ok we've all seen this dude on TV.... i think hes a BS artist- but perhaps directed towards christians- what do you think of him? Anyone believe he performs miracles??

He is only a man. He is a sinner just like all of us. He does not perform miracles, God does through the faith of the believer and also the faith of Benny Hinn. I do not know if everything he has ever done has been genuine, without showmanship. I have attended one of his services and it was great. I believe that many people got healed that night.

[AKR]

Originally Posted by adilrockstar

He is only a man. He is a sinner just like all of us. He does not perform miracles, God does through the faith of the believer and also the faith of Benny Hinn. I do not know if everything he has ever done has been genuine, without showmanship. I have attended one of his services and it was great. I believe that many people got healed that night.

i believe you were hallucinating.

[adilrockstar]

Originally Posted by AKR

i believe you were hallucinating.

Doesn't matter what you think.

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by kickbackking

Ok we've all seen this dude on TV i think hes a BS artist but perhaps directed towards christians what do you think of him? Anyone believe he performs miracles??

Okay. So you know and we know what YOU "think" of the man, so what else is there to establish? You just want more reason to beat on us saints, as if you hadn't already decided that you have enough reaon. The dishonesty that is standard to you God-haters doesn't even let you be truthful in what you ask. Pretty sad.

(Just for the record in regard to the final sentence of your attack, who says "he performs miracles"? He doesn't, and he hasn't ever said anything to the contrary. But go right ahead and manufacture some more lies to justify your hatred for the guy. )

[AKR]

Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Doesn't matter what you think.

and your opinion bares no weight on whether or not he is a fraud. he's already been proven a fraud. he has never proven any medical miracles and he spends millions of dollars on himself.

MATHEW 6:19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

22"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

24"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.


hinn is a scumbag bull**** artist. the end.

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by frankenstein

Total BS artist.

Nope. Real man of God.

I've read how often times...

You "have read"? Where. Understand that I am asking you for a legitimate source. Other haters of God and us saints who do His work do not fill that prescription. There are and have long been plenty of losers who hate the man and invent and spread the kind of lies you are using to "fertilize" this board, and each and every time they are proven wrong. Tough luck, pal.

at the front of the audience there will be a bunch of people in wheelchairs who want to be 'healed' on stage. He doesn't dare try performing his so called healing through the Holy Spirit on them because it would expose him as BS immediately.

You words are a lie. First of all the people whom we see on the platform are already healed by Jesus at Pastor Benny's meeting, and the doctors on staff confirm this before letting them stand up there next to the preacher. No one "wants to be healed on stage", because the Lord heals them as they worship. This is the Lord's work; not a show-biz audition with folks wanting to have attention. Those who appear on the platform do so to testify to the healing that the Lord has done in them and to thank and praise Him. It has nothing at all to do with either praising or thanking Brother Benny.

Any person claiming to know what God wants or to have the ability to act as a conduit through which God speaks or performs miracles

...is actually doing God's work. Anyone falsely claiming the same would be easily and quickly disproven, which has not ever been the case with Brother Benny. "...what God wants"? Just where is there any question as to the answer to that? God walked this earth healing all whom He saw, and never turning anyone down. It ALWAYS is His will to heal; as such your words about "what God wants" are really idiotic. Please get a clue.

Meanwhile they'll live in a multi-million dollar mansion. Not exactly pious living to follow in the footsteps of Christ.

Oh. You mean as if living in poverty were a Bible-honored or -instituted "gift". It isn't; Messiah promises us all we need to live without need and do His work. There is no glory in poor, and there is nothing "pious" about acting as if the opposite were true.

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by AKR

he's already been proven a fraud. he has never proven any medical miracles

Guess again. He has not been "proven a fraud" and the healings are documented real. Go back to chasing yourself.

[Ron Paul 2008]

He is a complete fraud. Its been proven that he has never healed anyone. Plus he has had many shady business dealings and if I remember correctly it involved drugs with his business partners.

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by Ron Paul 2008

He is a complete fraud. Its been proven that he has never healed anyone.

"Proven"? Really? By whom? You might start by establishing that he ever claimed to heal anyone, which of course he did not claim. So you set out to slander a man with vile lies and right off the bat you destroy your own credibility by telling a lie you cannot defend. Pretty sad.

Plus he has had many shady business dealings and if I remember correctly it involved drugs with his business partners.

Better either back that up or find yourself a good lawyer.

[Blau]

Originally Posted by adilrockstar

He is only a man. He is a sinner just like all of us. He does not perform miracles, God does through the faith of the believer and also the faith of Benny Hinn. I do not know if everything he has ever done has been genuine, without showmanship. I have attended one of his services and it was great. I believe that many people got healed that night.

You would defend Benny Hinn.

How can you defend someone that steals money like that? A preacher should never live in that kind of luxury. If one is, then something wrong is happening.

Since when is selling "miracles" and "healings" a legit business in the eyes of God?

[Violator009]

Originally Posted by kickbackking

Ok we've all seen this dude on TV.... i think hes a BS artist- but perhaps directed towards christians- what do you think of him? Anyone believe he performs miracles??

HE is a fraud, any spiritually mature christian would know thats not the way you heal people...

[kickbackking]

Originally Posted by nonAtlas

Okay. So you know and we know what YOU "think" of the man, so what else is there to establish? You just want more reason to beat on us saints, as if you hadn't already decided that you have enough reaon. The dishonesty that is standard to you God-haters doesn't even let you be truthful in what you ask. Pretty sad.

(Just for the record in regard to the final sentence of your attack, who says "he performs miracles"? He doesn't, and he hasn't ever said anything to the contrary. But go right ahead and manufacture some more lies to justify your hatred for the guy. )

Hey i'm basically a realist anyone that drives around in limos and lives in a multimillion dollar house is a wanker - religious or not! How can you say that he doesnt do amazing things.. or claim to- (through jesus of course)

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by Bluestorm100

You would defend Benny Hinn.

Why not? I defend you too and your freedom to do the work that God has appointed you, and you are a complete assclown. Why then would he not defend a good man like Brother Benny?

How can you defend someone that steals money like that?

Like what? Where and when has he ever "stolen money"?

A preacher should never live in that kind of luxury. If one is, then something wrong is happening.

What kind? Who says he does what you imply, and who says it would be wrong? He lives comfortably while doing the toughest of ministry work. The Lord rewards His saints for their work, and it is not your job to question Him about it. Or maybe you think it is; now that is a meeting I want to witness.

Since when is selling "miracles" and "healings" a legit business in the eyes of God?

I give up. Since when? But first you might start by trying to make the case that someone is "selling miracles and healings". Can't do it? Why are we not at all surprised?

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by kickbackking

Hey i'm basically a realist anyone that drives around in limos and lives in a multimillion dollar house is a wanker religious or not! How can you say that he doesnt do amazing things.. or claim to (through jesus of course)

That you hate God and us His saints is your problem, and I don't quibble with your right to do that, but that does not make true the lies you are telling. His home was purchased by the ministry and the value shot through the roof when land in that area got extremely popular and tough to get. "Drives around in limos"? He doesn't "drive around in limos"; he drives an SUV, at least according to NBC's failed attack on him about three years ago. Having people hired to escort you is nothing uncommon or scandalous, particularly when there are so many nut-jobs like you taking shots at the man.

Now which of the "amazing things" Jesus does through him do you find the most troubling? Better hire yourself a lawyer to sue God.

[buddhastalin]

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by Violator009

HE is a fraud, any spiritually mature christian would know thats not the way you heal people...

In other words christians NOT YOU, which further means you are not qualified to make such a judgement. Thanks for attempting to add to the conversation.

[kickbackking]

Non atlas- look i understand your love for gods messengers, but isnt there a quote in the bible somehwere that its harder for a rich man to go to heaven than a camel to go through a needle?? or something like that! Anyone that thinks this guy performs miracles needs a miracle themselves!

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by striker543

i've heard more bad than good, like he dabbles in the occult

I would suggest you stop lying. You have NOT "heard" any such thing, at least from actual Bible-believers.

[Violator009]

Originally Posted by nonAtlas

In other words christians NOT YOU, which further means you are not qualified to make such a judgement. Thanks for attempting to add to the conversation.

Lol, you dont even know me, but your judging me, he is a fraud and i stick by it, that is not the way you heal people, i suggest you do more studying......

[Blau]

Originally Posted by nonAtlas

Why not? I defend you too and your freedom to do the work that God has appointed you, and you are a complete assclown. Why then would he not defend a good man like Brother Benny?



Like what? Where and when has he ever "stolen money"?



What kind? Who says he does what you imply, and who says it would be wrong? He lives comfortably while doing the toughest of ministry work. The Lord rewards His saints for their work, and it is not your job to question Him about it. Or maybe you think it is; now that is a meeting I want to witness.



I give up. Since when? But first you might start by trying to make the case that someone is "selling miracles and healings". Can't do it? Why are we not at all surprised?

Oh, how very Christian of you to call me an assclown. Yes, yes, Benny Hinn is a good man. Brother Benny.

If you weren't a moron, you'd do a little bit of searching and easily find that his ministry is a fraud.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

In March 2005, Ministry Watch, an independent evangelical organization which reviews Christian ministries for financial transparency and efficiency and advises potential donors accordingly, issued a Donor Alert stating that "the reported exorbitant spending of the Hinn family reveals that BHM has far more money than it needs to carry out its ministry" and advising Christians to "prayerfully consider withholding contributions to Benny Hinn" while praying for his restoration and repentance.[5] Benny Hinn Ministries is not a member of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability.[6]

Hinn lives in an ocean-front mansion valued at an estimated $8.5 million in an exclusive gated community in Dana Point, California, travels by private aircraft, and stays in hotel rooms costing upwards of $3,000 per night.[7] In December 2006, he sent out a mailing asking for donations towards a new Gulfstream G4SP jet valued at an estimated $36 million.[8]

Starting in June of 2007, at the end of his This is Your Day program, Hinn stated he is behind in his bills to TBN and said he needs "your love gifts" so he can become current and continue to preach the gospel around the world. Hinn stated the cost of his worldwide crusades and the increased price of everything else has left him financially behind in his bills, but says TBN founders Paul and Jan Crouch have been very supportive.

Currently this ministry is receiving a "F" rating (0-70) in financial transparency from Ministry Watch.[2]

The ministry is not something that you go into to make money or to live a lavish lifestyle. Anyone who does isn't in it for the right reasons, that's pretty simple. He doesn't need to be rewarded with a private jet, $3000 a night hotel rooms and an $8.5 million dollar house with beach views.

It's very simple and basic that you shouldn't sell miracles or healings. If you truly have the gift, and I doubt Benny Hinn, then its not something that you use to make money. So he doesn't actually charge to be healed, but he makes a killing off of it, and it's not right. Don't you remember reading about how Jesus turned the tables in the temple?

[user23960508710783]

Bracket out everything about his theological views, because it looks pretty obvious that he is stealing money from that church.

In my mind, any religious leader who steals from his church is automatically disqualified as a religious leader.

No, I don't have any proof of this, just his incredibly lavish lifestyle and the uber-secretive methods he uses to protect the financial records of the church and his own assets.

[nonAtlas]

Originally Posted by kickbackking

Non atlas- look i understand your love for gods messengers, but isnt there a quote in the bible somehwere that its harder for a rich man to go to heaven than a camel to go through a needle?? or something like that! Anyone that thinks this guy performs miracles needs a miracle themselves!

Actually saints like me have already had miracles from Jesus and we know His voice, including through men like Brother Benny. What the Bible says is you may have plenty of money and possessions just as long as those things do not have you. Check Matthew 6:33, which Brother Benny quite obviously has satisfied. Nowhere does the Lord promise poverty or sickness, both of which are Satan's curses on God's favorite creations: humans. It is up to you whether you cooperate and accept that promise, but it is not up to you to decide whether others people's relationship with the Lord is legitimate.

[Ron Paul 2008]

Originally Posted by nonAtlas

"Proven"? Really? By whom? You might start by establishing that he ever claimed to heal anyone, which of course he did not claim. So you set out to slander a man with vile lies and right off the bat you destroy your own credibility by telling a lie you cannot defend. Pretty sad.

No, they did a comprehensive investigation on 20/20 and they followed up on over 100 people who were miraculously "healed" by Hinn. None of them showed any improvement and their diseases even progressed. A lot of the people Benny claimed to have cured from cancer actually died from cancer months later. You are totally brainwashed with your hope to believe. Btw he claims himself on his shows that people are healed from the afflictions they have.

Better either back that up or find yourself a good lawyer.

Do an internet search. Type in ?Benny Hinn Fraud? in google.

[Blau]

Originally Posted by nonAtlas

I would suggest you stop lying. You have NOT "heard" any such thing, at least from actual Bible-believers.

Excuse you? Since when do you know what he's heard with his own ears? Since when does it matter if it came from Bible-believers? How dare you tell someone that they didn't "hear" something. You're pretty damn audacious to tell someone that they're lying about something that they heard and that they never actually heard it.

You and Adil have got to be some of the worst representations of Christians I have ever seen. I take shame in knowing that human beings like you two exist, and even more shame in the fact that you call yourselves Christians.

[LatissimusDorsi]

Originally Posted by buddhastalin

Ok now I'm embarrassed of humanity.