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Old 07-27-2007, 04:52 PM   #1
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Unfortunate (sexual) things about being a man

I agree with nearly everything in this article. I am of course biased because I am a man, but it sure does make sense. Definitely worth the time to read.

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Despite all the self-denial and fabricated accounts of endless machismo and sexual prowess that this article will no doubt provoke from the less insecure members of the male gender, it has to be said that being a guy is, at times, pretty tough.

The difficulty doesn?t necessarily come from trying to fulfill the accepted social definition of what it is to be a ?man? (though there is that), or the difficulties of having an external sex organ (there?s that, too), but simply, and most importantly, in how our biological makeup affects us in all aspects of our pursuit of the opposite sex.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:11 PM   #2
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that whole study is unfair..I wouldn't want some freakish looking dude with womanly features hitting on me either...if the "lesbian dressed up as a man" was more attractive I'm sure the responses from the women would've been different...
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that whole study is unfair..I wouldn't want some freakish looking dude with womanly features hitting on me either...if the "lesbian dressed up as a man" was more attractive I'm sure the responses from the women would've been different...
While I agree with the part about women ignoring a freakish dude trying to talk to them there are still some other things to be considered.

I'm sure she did a decent job of dressing up to look like a guy, maybe not though, but she should have at least been able to find a few women willing to talk to her, it sounds as if she had no luck at all. I can definitely vouch for her experiences. I can't count how many times I have tried to just talk to a random girl at some place to startup a conversation and they just utterly blow me off. Some of them may have legitimate reasons for doing so, but it happens a lot! I'm sure there are plenty of guys that will agree on this situation.

The whole study is unfair you say? Well most of it isn't even a study, it is just an observation, and a very good one at that. Some of it is fact. Reading the article I feel exactly how he describes a man's experience in having sex and trying to find mates.

I'm not going to say that women have it insanely easier than men, there is a catch. A good looking woman will definitely have an easier time than a good looking man. A bad looking woman will probably have a harder time than a bad looking man.

The part about actually having sex is absolutely true. Men can have all kinds of problems in the bed, which are mentioned in the article. Women just need to lay there and let the man do his thing. That is not to say women don't participate in sex, most of them most definitely do. But there is not nearly as much pressure on women to perform as there are on men, not to mention the whole multiple orgasms thing. Women are definitely able to enjoy sex more than men.

Edit: May we inquire to some of your experiences? You are definitely a very attractive woman, you must get hit on a lot. How often do you indulge a guy when he tries to talk to you wherever it may be? Does it matter if he is attractive or unattractive? How do you respond in most situations when a guy tries to talk to you?

As for me I am willing to talk to any girl, unattractive or attractive. I don't even mind being friends with them. The difference is I will only make a move for something more if I am attracted to her.

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While I agree with the part about women ignoring a freakish dude trying to talk to them there are still some other things to be considered.

I'm sure she did a decent job of dressing up to look like a guy, maybe not though, but she should have at least been able to find a few women willing to talk to her, it sounds as if she had no luck at all. I can definitely vouch for her experiences. I can't count how many times I have tried to just talk to a random girl at some place to startup a conversation and they just utterly blow me off. Some of them may have legitimate reasons for doing so, but it happens a lot! I'm sure there are plenty of guys that will agree on this situation.

The whole study is unfair you say? Well most of it isn't even a study, it is just an observation, and a very good one at that. Some of it is fact. Reading the article I feel exactly how he describes a man's experience in having sex and trying to find mates.

I'm not going to say that women have it insanely easier than men, there is a catch. A good looking woman will definitely have an easier time than a good looking man. A bad looking woman will probably have a harder time than a bad looking man.

The part about actually having sex is absolutely true. Men can have all kinds of problems in the bed, which are mentioned in the article. Women just need to lay there and let the man do his thing. That is not to say women don't participate in sex, most of them most definitely do. But there is not nearly as much pressure on women to perform as there are on men, not to mention the whole multiple orgasms thing. Women are definitely able to enjoy sex more than men.
yeah I agree with the sex part but I don't think they should've used that Lesbian's observation as an example at all, they should've done more to prove their point.
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"Women just need to lay there and let the man do his thing. That is not to say women don't participate in sex, most of them most definitely do. But there is not nearly as much pressure on women to perform as there are on men, not to mention the whole multiple orgasms thing. Women are definitely able to enjoy sex more than men."

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but as long as they can cook me up a good meal every night ,its a small price to pay
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Id still rather have it worse off sexualy than constantly bleed every few weeks and possibly give birth to a baby and then be less attractive after like 25.

Fck that sht im happy with having a shlong.
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I still think being a guy is awesome. Testosterone pwns.

No idea what the articles on about concerning men not having as strong(nor as long) an orgasm as women, mine are pretty damn good.
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i agree with the part about approaching girls cold turkey. I've had a g/f for nearly a year and am still terrified to approach other girls because i know they think i want them or something. MY strategey of treating girls like i would meeting some new dude, didn't really work either because i guess the girl thought i was interested in her enough.

Summarry: Approach a girl normally fail. Approach a girl as if its just some random guy friend fail.

(this isn't always the case, and it varies from girl to girl, but i'd say the majority behave this way)
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i agree with the part about approaching girls cold turkey. I've had a g/f for nearly a year and am still terrified to approach other girls because i know they think i want them or something. MY strategey of treating girls like i would meeting some new dude, didn't really work either because i guess the girl thought i was interested in her enough.

Summarry: Approach a girl normally fail. Approach a girl as if its just some random guy friend fail.

(this isn't always the case, and it varies from girl to girl, but i'd say the majority behave this way)
I think most girls blow guys off because it gets annoying to keep getting hit on by people you're not necessarily attracted to physically and intellectual. After a while the whole I'll be nice thing wears off and gets tired, especially when they don't leave you alone.

Imagine getting hit on everyday by multiple ugly girls or girls with less than stellar intelligence. And then add to the fact that some of them already have bfs and they are still trying to hit on you and they don't understand the meaning of no and they keep talking to you for over 30 mins continuously if they would.

If I meet a guy in a good setting my chances of blowing him off are slim to none as long as he's normal. But if I'm walking on the street or at the mall and some guy randomly hits on me, he'll get a no. I have a high distrust of strangers, I think it comes from my upbringing.

You guys shouldn't feel too bad about it, it's nothing personal.
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I will tell you about an odd experience I had with an ex of mine.

I was at her house hanging out (we were still friends) and one of her friends was there. I was waiting on her to finish getting ready so we could go somewhere. So I started chatting up her friend while I waited. HONEST conversation, I was not hitting on her at all. She didn't seem annoyed or anything. So we talked for just a few minutes and my ex was done getting ready and we left.

A few weeks later my ex was telling me how her friend is now scared to come over because she was uncomfortable with me hitting on her. "I was like uhhh wtf, I don't even like her, I was just talking to her waiting on you to get ready."

Pretty fukking stupid if you ask me.
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I will tell you about an odd experience I had with an ex of mine.

I was at her house hanging out (we were still friends) and one of her friends was there. I was waiting on her to finish getting ready so we could go somewhere. So I started chatting up her friend while I waited. HONEST conversation, I was not hitting on her at all. She didn't seem annoyed or anything. So we talked for just a few minutes and my ex was done getting ready and we left.

A few weeks later my ex was telling me how her friend is now scared to come over because she was uncomfortable with me hitting on her. "I was like uhhh wtf, I don't even like her, I was just talking to her waiting on you to get ready."

Pretty fukking stupid if you ask me.
girl was prolly just full of herself thinking every guy wants me...if they are talking to me they want me cause i'm hott
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girl was prolly just full of herself thinking every guy wants me...if they are talking to me they want me cause i'm hott
Yeah probably. Really pathetic attitude if you ask me. Maybe that is the problem with most women these days. Granted most guys probably are just hitting on them to try and get laid. It depends on where you go though. If you go to a bar and guys hit on you they probably want 1 thing. If you are at school or work or some place like that the guy probably just legitimately wants to get to know the girl, but they all just assume "oh he just wants to get in my pants." Get over it, not all men are *******s.
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what gets me is stuck up fat girls who think they god like. i started a polite conversation while waiting in line for chicken at the school cafeteria. said hey, how are classes going? my name is matt. she looked me up and down and looked like i was speaking in a foriegn language. and then went uhh huh and turned around. I laughed cause she's fat. And i'm not a bad looking guy at all. I just don't really wear designer clothes or bother to hang out with the in crowd type.
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I think most girls blow guys off because it gets annoying to keep getting hit on by people you're not necessarily attracted to physically and intellectual. After a while the whole I'll be nice thing wears off and gets tired, especially when they don't leave you alone.

Imagine getting hit on everyday by multiple ugly girls or girls with less than stellar intelligence. And then add to the fact that some of them already have bfs and they are still trying to hit on you and they don't understand the meaning of no and they keep talking to you for over 30 mins continuously if they would.

If I meet a guy in a good setting my chances of blowing him off are slim to none as long as he's normal. But if I'm walking on the street or at the mall and some guy randomly hits on me, he'll get a no. I have a high distrust of strangers, I think it comes from my upbringing.

You guys shouldn't feel too bad about it, it's nothing personal.
there are a couple unattractive girls that i see every time i go to the gym that like me and it is annoying as hell but i still treat them with respect. Also i have a few female friends who seem to think every guy who talks to them is hitting on them.
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I think most girls blow guys off because it gets annoying to keep getting hit on by people you're not necessarily attracted to physically and intellectual. After a while the whole I'll be nice thing wears off and gets tired, especially when they don't leave you alone.

Imagine getting hit on everyday by multiple ugly girls or girls with less than stellar intelligence. And then add to the fact that some of them already have bfs and they are still trying to hit on you and they don't understand the meaning of no and they keep talking to you for over 30 mins continuously if they would.

If I meet a guy in a good setting my chances of blowing him off are slim to none as long as he's normal. But if I'm walking on the street or at the mall and some guy randomly hits on me, he'll get a no. I have a high distrust of strangers, I think it comes from my upbringing.

You guys shouldn't feel too bad about it, it's nothing personal.
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Chicks are rude because its effective.

And it's totally not personal, no-one can actually know who you really are in under 5 seconds. One's approach only gets rejected.

It still sucks though , it's totally stupid that if you start up a random convo with a girl your automitically hitting on them
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:17 AM   #17
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this is why meeting women period is tough for guys. In public if i were to say sup how you doing ect to a female i have already hit on her. I could just trying to be friendly to her and they think your hitting on them. then they roll thier eyes and quit paying attention to you, or simply give you some bs excuse that they need to go somewhere,AND have the nerve to ask for a drink.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:09 AM   #18
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I agree with this in principle, because i've seen and experienced it first hand.

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As a result of these things, men tend to be more desperate than women when it comes to finding a girlfriend and/or mate ? finding a woman without a boyfriend is usually a sign of pickiness or personal choice, as there is always at least one man a woman, no matter how ugly she is, who will be able to attract a man of some sort. Finding a guy without a girlfriend is usually a sign of a lack of options. Thanks to the human male?s biologically-imposed desperation and urges, women have far more choice in choosing men, and far less pressure in doing so (outside of the natural stomp-stomp-stomp of their biological clock, anyway).
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Old 07-28-2007, 04:22 PM   #19
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what gets me is stuck up fat girls who think they god like. i started a polite conversation while waiting in line for chicken at the school cafeteria. said hey, how are classes going? my name is matt. she looked me up and down and looked like i was speaking in a foriegn language. and then went uhh huh and turned around. I laughed cause she's fat. And i'm not a bad looking guy at all. I just don't really wear designer clothes or bother to hang out with the in crowd type.
That's cold, if I met a guy at school I wouldn't ignore him.

I hate fat girls that talk about wanting a "Talk, Dark, Muscular and Handsome" man. And vice versa for guys, you shouldn't expect from others what you don't have or can't accomplish.
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That's cold, if I met a guy at school I wouldn't ignore him.

I hate fat girls that talk about wanting a "Talk, Dark, Muscular and Handsome" man. And vice versa for guys, you shouldn't expect from others what you don't have or can't accomplish.
that happens alot...alot of girls have an ego to where if your not on thier level they will just ignore you. I havent met many guys like that, I am sure its teh same. I can get along with anyone, but if your stuck up, im going to treat you like **** after you blow me off.
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