Top Ten Scientific Facts : Evolution is False and Impossible

[loftin12393]

The body and soul of Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution was his idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations. Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates.






Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong

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Help! I can't fly. My head is too big, and my wings are too small.


The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the evolutionary tree have many laughable flaws. One of the best is the thought that a bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable in his environment. The wing was much too small for the bird to fly. Why would a bird evolve a wing that was useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary natural selection concept that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations improving a wing that was useless? The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage and the opposite from natural selection. According to natural selection the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly. Evolution is simply nonsense. This is so funny. We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed. Evolutionists actually believe this nonsense.



Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Proves Evolution is Wrong

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic and scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture. This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.
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Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong

Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.


Scientific Fact No. 4 - Human Egg and Sperm Proves Evolution is Wrong

The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains the X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a female. The female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus) within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors cause small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an intelligent change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these reasons.


Scientific Fact No. 5 - DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong

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The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.


Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.


Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chromosome Count Proves Evolution is Wrong

There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is fixed. This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible. Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart wisdom.


Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.



Scientific Fact No. 9 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life or any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.


Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong

Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing every type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth have been found. We are alone.

I'm a Christian just want to hear your thoughts not trying to make a debate about winning and losing

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong

Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing every type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth have been found. We are alone.

I didn't pay much attention to the others. If they're anything like this one, whoever wrote that tripe should be drug out into the street and shot. If I recover from the absurdity of this particular gem, I'll respond (unless someone beats me to it). It may take a few strong painkillers. What a f*cking tool.

EDIT: #9 may be very soon proven ridiculous as well. A probe should be landing in the polar regions within a year or so to test for bacteria which may be contained in ice below the surface.

[loftin12393]

I know its kinda vague but the others have really good points wether you believe them or not its you choice.

[Reiv]

You could never say that any of these prove that evolution is wrong. They just support the other case.

To be fair, these all sound like quite weak arguments. The only one that brings up any truths is about the left handed proteins.

[1devil]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

The body and soul of Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution was his idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations. Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates.






Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong

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Help! I can't fly. My head is too big, and my wings are too small.


The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the evolutionary tree have many laughable flaws. One of the best is the thought that a bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable in his environment. The wing was much too small for the bird to fly. Why would a bird evolve a wing that was useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary natural selection concept that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations improving a wing that was useless? The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage and the opposite from natural selection. According to natural selection the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly. Evolution is simply nonsense. This is so funny. We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed. Evolutionists actually believe this nonsense.



Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Proves Evolution is Wrong

The evolutionist will claim that the presence of many individual species proves evolution. This shallow statement is devoid of reason, logic and scientific proof. Evolutionists line up pictures of similar looking species and claim they evolved one to another. Humans are a great example. There are hundreds of species of extinct monkeys and apes. Petrified skulls and bones exist from these creatures. Evolutionists line up the most promising choices to present a gradual progression from monkey to modern man. They simply fill in the big gaps with make-believe creatures to fit the picture. This procedure can be done with humans only because there are many extinct monkey and ape species. They never do this with giraffes and elephants. These pictures are placed in all evolutionists' text books to teach kids this nonsense. The picture is simply a grouping of individual species that does not prove evolution.
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Scientific Fact No. 3 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong

Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.


Scientific Fact No. 4 - Human Egg and Sperm Proves Evolution is Wrong

The evolutionist ignores the problem surrounding the human female egg and the male sperm in the evolutionary theory. The female egg contains the X-chromosome and the male sperm contains either an X-chromosome for the reproduction of a male or a Y-chromosome for the reproduction of a female. The female eggs all develop within the ovaries while she is a baby (fetus) within her mother's womb. Evolutionists claim environmental factors cause small changes in the offspring in the evolutionary chain. However, the environmental experience of the female cannot change the chromosomes within her eggs and cannot have any effect upon her offspring. Her body cannot go into the eggs contained within her ovaries at her birth to make an intelligent change. Females cannot be a part of the evolutionary theory for these reasons.


Scientific Fact No. 5 - DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong

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The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed.


Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.


Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chromosome Count Proves Evolution is Wrong

There is no scientific evidence that a species can change the number of chromosomes within the DNA. The chromosome count within each species is fixed. This is the reason a male from one species cannot mate successfully with a female of another species. Man could not evolve from a monkey. Each species is locked into its chromosome count that cannot change. If an animal developed an extra chromosome or lost a chromosome because of some deformity, it could not successfully mate. The defect could not be passed along to the next generation. Evolving a new species is scientifically impossible. Evolutionists prove that getting a college education does not impart wisdom.


Scientific Fact No. 8 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.



Scientific Fact No. 9 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life or any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.


Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong

Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing every type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth have been found. We are alone.

I'm a Christian just want to hear your thoughts not trying to make a debate about winning and losing

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djubl...rthsociety.htm

[user1245464]

None of these "proves" evolution is wrong. If evolution was wrong, you may want to tell that to the 95% of credible scientists who accept evolution as fact. But that's besides the point. Most of these arguments have already been addressed and refuted, or been explained by certain suggested theories. I won't go into detail because I don't have a PhD in evolutionary biology, but if you really want these explained, check out the books "Climbing Mount Improbable" or "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins. Yes, I know, he's an athiest, but he addresses most of your arguments in these books, explaining them in great detail, and he is obviously qualified enough.

By the way, on your Scientific Fact No. 10, we couldn't possible expect to recieve radio signals from every single galaxy in the universe. The nearest galaxy to our own, known as the Andromeda Galaxy, is 2.5 million light years away. Radiowaves travel at the speed of light, therefore it would take 2.5 million years for a single signal to reach us. And this is best case scenario. See my point?

[Pleb]

Man could not evolve from a monkey.

I stopped reading at this point.


Whoever wrote this list dosn't have a clue.

[riptor]

I'm not going to go over every one of these claims, so I'll do the first one. I'll let others take a swing at the remaining nine.

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong

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Help! I can't fly. My head is too big, and my wings are too small.


The idea of natural selection sounds great when considering deer. The deer that can sense danger the quickest and run the fastest are able to escape the predator on a more consistent basis. However, other examples on the evolutionary tree have many laughable flaws. One of the best is the thought that a bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable in his environment. The wing was much too small for the bird to fly. Why would a bird evolve a wing that was useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary natural selection concept that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations improving a wing that was useless? The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage and the opposite from natural selection. According to natural selection the members of the bird species with the smallest useless wing would be the most adaptable and most likely to survive in the largest numbers. According to the theory of natural selection birds could never evolve to fly. Evolution is simply nonsense. This is so funny. We are then led to believe that some birds got tired of carrying around a worthless half-size wing so they grew fingers on the end to help climb trees. The wings became arms and a new species was developed. Evolutionists actually believe this nonsense.

The old "what good is half a wing" claim. Classic from the 19th century. It's nice to see that creationists haven't updated their claims in over one hundred years.

Anyway, no one is saying that a bird's wing began as an instrument of flight. The best reptile to bird transitional fossil, archaeopteryx, most likely lived like a flying squirrel. It's proto-wings were used like the skin flaps on a flying squirrel, they helped it glide from tree to tree. No one is saying the wing formed first and grew claws on the end, as your post does. (Which I'm sure you C&Ped anyway.) Dinosaurs, the ancestors of birds, already had limbs with claws before they began to grow feathers. Feathers most likely evolved as a means to keep warm, and later they were co-opted to help with flight. But you don't need feathers to fly, just ask a bat. But they could be useful in helping flight, just like in modern birds.

[loftin12393]

You have good points but I haven't seen any truth to evolution just a bunch little ideas on how it can be possible not trying to stir anything I'm a peaceful christian and respect your views but you must elighten me with some evidence. I believe Christ through faith I know its not a whole lot of evidence but I have spoke in togues and my life has been completely transformed into a blessing and not a curse. I believe in the spirit and the bible makes complete truth to me and no one has proven the bible wrong by hard fact. Don't hate

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Scientific Fact No. 10 - Radio Silence from Space Proves Evolution is Wrong

Mars is not the only place that shows no signs of life. The entire universe lacks any sign of life. There are no radio signals that can be related to intelligent life forms. None of the billions of galaxies has been found to emit any intelligent radio signals. Scientists have been pointing every type of radio telescope possible into space for several decades in hopes of finding an intelligent signal. No signs of life beyond Earth have been found. We are alone.

Alright. So, here's a quick response to this one.

We've been searching space for... decades? Well, geez, if we haven't found something in DECADES, then let's just give up, cash in, and go home. What sort of inane asshatery bull**** is this? What simpleminded intellectually-vapid ****-for-brains is responsible for such a nonpoint?

The particular primitive responsible for this garbage makes the assumption that intelligent life forms must be at least advanced as we are by now (which, considering that we've only been able to broadcast radio waves for 101 years now, if I'm not mistaken doesn't say a whole lot about our own particular intelligence).

It also assumes that these particular sentient beings who are broadcasting radio waves which we can detect are close enough and have been broadcasting long enough for the radio waves to reach us. Another fallacy. Given the sheer size of our own galaxy (saying nothing for other galaxies and the distance between ours and theirs from which said beings would be broadcasting their own version of "12th rock from the dual massive suns" on tv (whatever)), and the limited distance our own signals have been able to travel, which, would be about 100 light years, what's to say that other civilizations are A) close enough to broadcast to us and B) technologically advanced to even transmit something we'd be able to detect?

Another point... the sheer size of the universe greatly hampers our abilities to accurately scan it for signals. We've only been able to canvas a small segment of it. Given other factors (resolution, frequency, etc), compounded by the sheer volume of space, we're really searching for a needle in a very, very large haystack.

Oh, ****it. This guy is an *******, plain and simple. Any sort of scientific credentials he may possess in relation to astronomy are either forged or stolen.

[loftin12393]

Okay good point but I still want to know what makes you believe in evolution to justify the fact in your mind that there is no God. Just want to know

[riptor]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

You have good points but I haven't seen any truth to evolution just a bunch little ideas on how it can be possible not trying to stir anything I'm a peaceful christian and respect your views but you must elighten me with some evidence. I believe Christ through faith I know its not a whole lot of evidence but I have spoke in togues and my life has been completely transformed into a blessing and not a curse. I believe in the spirit and the bible makes complete truth to me and no one has proven the bible wrong by hard fact. Don't hate

I don't know exactly what you want, but if your knowledge of evolution comes from the place you got the information from your first post from, its no wonder you are confused. Your personal experience doesn't prove that your religion is true. People from other religions have their own personal experiences too. Anyway, here is a list that touches on some of the evidence for evolution that I posted the other day.

The fossil record. Evolution predicts that the fossil record should show a progression of simple life forms to more complex life forms over time. And that is exactly what it shows. Evolution also predicts that we should find transitional fossils, and we do. There have been many such finds in just the past year. Tiktalik, a fossil fish with tetrapod features, is a transitional from aquatic to land animals. Evolution also predicts that all organisms share a common ancestor. By looking at the fossil record we can see the ancestral organisms by comparing the derived characteristics of varying organisms.
Creationism can offer no explanation for the fossil record.

The genetic evidence. Evolution predicts that the more closely related two species are, the more genetic similarities we should find. And we do. Humans and chimps share almost 99% of the same DNA. We share less with gorillas and other apes. This means that humans and chimps both split off from the other apes at a later time, and that we both share a common ancestor. Humans, chimps, gorillas, and orangatans also cannot synthesize vitamin C naturally. The gene that synthesizes vitamin C is broken, at the same place in the DNA in both humans and the other apes. This can easily be explained by sharing a common ancestor who had this broken gene. Since both humans and apes can get vitamin C from food, it is not life threatening and could be passed down through the generations.
Creationism can offer no explanation for genetic similarities.

Vestigial organs. Vestigial organs are leftovers from the evolutionary past. Since evolution is a bottom up designer, it can only modify existing structures. Evolution predicts that we should find such organs, and once again we do. The human appendix is a classic example. The appendix was used by our ancient ancestors to help with the digestion of tough roots. Since we haven't eaten these for tens of thousands of years, the appendix has lost its original function. Other examples of vestigial organs are hips in whales. Whales are entirely aquatic mammals that are descended from terrestrial animals. Since whales can survive in the ocean with hips, evolution can leave them. Also vestigial doesn't mean useless. These organs have been adapted to serve other functions. The human appendix is used by the immune system, but people can survive just fine without it. It is not a vital organ. Whale's hips are used during mating. Evolution can give reasons why organisms posses such structures, it is the bottom up design of evolution.
Creationism cannot explain why a designer would give useless or unneeded organs and structures to living things.

Morphology. Morphology is the scientific study of form and structure of organisms. Morphology was used by taxonomists in the past to classify living things, since that was all they had to go on. Shared similarities and differences are in fact how animals and plants are classified. The reasons for similarities and differences are that some organisms are more closely related to each other by common descent than others are. The forelimbs of such diverse animals such as frogs, whales, bats, horses, lizards, and humans all share essentially the same boney parts, relationship of parts, and embryological development. They are similar because they share the same blueprint from a common ancestor. The forelimbs of each creature have been modified by evolution to survive in different environments and for different uses. The basic structure used by terrestrial animals is inherited from lobe-finned fishes that also had the same arrangement of boney structures.
Creationism can give no reason why an omnipotent designer would give the same basic structures to many different organisms that live in completely different environments and live completely different lifestyles.

Embryology. Embryology is the study and growth of the early development of an organism. Evolution predicts that species that are more closely related should go through similar embryonic development. And they do. The early embryos of all vertebrates resemble each other. Embryos of creatures that breathe air go through a gill slit stage, complete with aortic arches and a two-chambered heart, like those of a fish. Creationism can give no valid explanation to why this would occur.

[loftin12393]

Okay I see if this is true when do we evolve again? I haven't heard any other animals evolving in my life time or is it only for 1000 of years ago. Please elighten me

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Okay good point but I still want to know what makes you believe in evolution to justify the fact in your mind that there is no God. Just want to know

What?

Believing in evolution does not lead me to disbelieve in God.

Were you home-schooled?

[matpal]

^That human embryos develop gills is not true. Someone else may need to update their info.

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Okay I see if this is true when do we evolve again? I haven't heard any other animals evolving in my life time or is it only for 1000 of years ago. Please elighten me

Be honest.. did you really read all of Riptor's post? If so, how much of it do you understand?

[NuggzTheNinja]

Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.

What cracksmoking f-ckbag wrote this?

This sounds like some Harun Yahya crackhead musings.



The second law of thermodynamics refers to isolated, or closed systems. A human is NOT a closed system. Whoever wrote this obviously skipped a few Junior High science classes......

[user1245464]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Okay good point but I still want to know what makes you believe in evolution to justify the fact in your mind that there is no God. Just want to know

Ok, if you are truly and honestly wondering where the evidence for evolution comes from, and why we believe in it, I'll give it to you. It won't, however, be short. But like I said, if you really want the answers you ask for, you should be willing to take some time to read this through.

This read isn't too long, is straight to the point, pretty basic stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent

This is much longer, much more advanced and in-depth, but will give you the answers you're looking for. Save it to your PC if you have to and read it over a period of a few days. You'll be enlightened:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

By the way, for anyone else interested, the above read is excellent, if slightly long.

[Mr Beer]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Okay I see if this is true when do we evolve again? I haven't heard any other animals evolving in my life time or is it only for 1000 of years ago. Please elighten me

Because species don't evolve into other species overnight. It takes a long time e.g. millions of years.

[loftin12393]

I appreciate it, and for dreamscapes talking about believing God what God do you believe in? Is it one you made up

[user1245464]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Scientific Fact No. 6 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong

The second law of thermodynamics proves that organization cannot flow from chaos. Complex live organisms cannot rearrange themselves into an organism of a higher form as claimed by evolutionists. This is scientifically backwards according to the second law of thermodynamics that has never been proven wrong. Scientists cannot have it both ways. The second law of thermodynamics is proven to be correct. Evolution lacks any scientific proof. Evolution is simply an empty theory.

Oh wow. I didn't even see this one. Are you kidding?

Ok, the second law of thermodynamics states that: "The entropy of an isolated system not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium." Meaning that in an ISOLATED system, things will tend to move towards disorder. Not only does this not prove evolution incorrect, it has nothing to do with evolution. The earth, and all biological organisms, are NOT isolated systems. They are open systems, meaning that they can be influenced by events outside of the actual or conceptual boundaries.

Sheesh. Do yourself a favor and stop reading into this creationism science crap. To believe in the bible is one thing, but to read and believe such flawed arguments by people who have no concept of evolution or science is just stupid.

Again, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

I appreciate it, and for dreamscapes talking about believing God what God do you believe in? Is it one you made up

I'm an atheist. So, no.

[loftin12393]

Originally Posted by Dreamscapes

What?

Believing in evolution does not lead me to disbelieve in God.

Were you home-schooled?

So then what does this post mean are you saying evolutionists believe in God, if so what God? If your atheist you don't believe in existence of God right?

[Mr Beer]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

Scientific Fact No. 9 - Lack of Life on Mars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Two NASA two land rovers named Spirit and Opportunity explored Mars during 2004. The topography shows obvious signs of past liquid rivers flowing in numerous places. The rovers have proven that water was once abundant on the surface of Mars, but they have not been able to find any signs of life or any signs of past life on the planet. Mars has a proven history of flowing water on the surface and an atmosphere suitable to support life forms. The planet has had all of the conditions necessary to provide the "spark" of life according to the evolutionary theory, yet there is no life on Mars. The river beds and river banks show no signs of vegetation or trees. The ground has no fossils and no organisms. The place is absolutely sterile.

1. We do not know whether Mars ever held life or not. We have probed maybe 0.00001% of the planet, so all we know is that we have not found proof of life there.

2. Even if Mars never held life, this does not mean that life cannot arise spontaneously under the right conditions, merely that Mars did not have the right conditions or that life simply did not arise.

3. This is a (very weak) argument against abiogenesis, not evolution. So it doesn't even address the question.

[riptor]

Originally Posted by matpal

^That human embryos develop gills is not true. Someone else may need to update their info.

You're right, but humans do develop gill slits in the womb, even though they aren't used for breathing. But creationism still can't even give an explanation for that.

[matpal]

Originally Posted by riptor

You're right, but humans do develop gill slits in the womb, even though they aren't used for breathing. But creationism still can't even give an explanation for that.

This was debunked in the early 1920's....big time. The guy, Henkel or something like that was shown to have forged most, if not all of his work. Curiously, it is still published in text books as recently as 2005.

"The pharyngeal arches and clefts are frequently referred to as branchial arches and branchial clefts in anology with the lower vertebrates, [but] since the human embryo never has gills called 'branchia', the term pharyngeal arches and clefts has been adopted for this book.

The throat (or pharyngeal) grooves and pouches, falsely called "gill slits" are not mistakes in human development. They develop into absolutely essential parts of human anatomy. The middle ear canals come from the second pouches, and the parathyroid and thymus glands come from the third and fourth... another pouch, thought to be vestigial by evolutionists until just recently, becomes a gland that assists in calcium balance. Far from being useless evolutionary vestiges, then, these so-called "gill slits" are quite essential for distinctively human development."

[Mr_Mya]

Originally Posted by Mr Beer

Because species don't evolve into other species overnight. It takes a long time e.g. millions of years.

So, if species don't evolve, does that mean anything? The oldest vertebrate fossils are believed to be around 560 million years old. Ever heard of the Coelacanth, the living fossil, the fish with proto-legs, etc...? Fossils of it are running about 400 million years old and believed to have died out 65 million years ago, they are still swimming around.

How can anything endure nearly half a billion years of changes on the planet and swim away unchanged? If the Coelacanth is unchanged, doesn't that give a level of stability to the genetic code that doesn't fit the Darwinian-framework?

[squanto]

Originally Posted by matpal

This was debunked in the early 1920's....big time. The guy, Henkel or something like that was shown to have forged most, if not all of his work. Curiously, it is still published in text books as recently as 2005.

"The pharyngeal arches and clefts are frequently referred to as branchial arches and branchial clefts in anology with the lower vertebrates, [but] since the human embryo never has gills called 'branchia', the term pharyngeal arches and clefts has been adopted for this book.

The throat (or pharyngeal) grooves and pouches, falsely called "gill slits" are not mistakes in human development. They develop into absolutely essential parts of human anatomy. The middle ear canals come from the second pouches, and the parathyroid and thymus glands come from the third and fourth... another pouch, thought to be vestigial by evolutionists until just recently, becomes a gland that assists in calcium balance. Far from being useless evolutionary vestiges, then, these so-called "gill slits" are quite essential for distinctively human development."

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http://www.rae.org/gillslit.html

Because a webmaster of a Christian website that sells books like "TEACH THEM DILIGENTLY - How to Use the Scriptures in Child Training" for 12 bucks is the authority on evolutionary Biology.

[The_Pain_Train]

loftin12393: Could you explain to me exactly what/and why you believe (in terms of religion, god, after-life, etc..). Please support all claims with proper evience.

[Dreamscapes]

Originally Posted by loftin12393

So then what does this post mean are you saying evolutionists believe in God, if so what God? If your atheist you don't believe in existence of God right?

I'm not saying evolutionists believe in God. As for which God, if they did believe in Him.... take your pick. plenty out there.

I have a lack of belief in God. But, yes, that's pretty much it in a nutshell.