Cashews and cereal.

[bigray]

Is it good to eat cashews for snack? What about eating a little bit of corn flakes? I eat a lot of protein and i am bulking now and i do cardio 2 times a week and weights 4 times a week. Is it good to drink a protein shake for snack and one after working out?

[bigray]

Also, when is the best time to eat fruits like apple, banana, etc

[mnbvcxz]

eat fruit whenever, its not gonna kill ya

[RipStone]

There is no need to snack if you are eating 5-8 meals a day, having a meal every 2-3 hrs cus your next meal is never that far away.

Corn flakes are not a good source of carbs. Have oats instead and if you prefer cold cereal buy Uncle Sams ceral or Kashi.

Defintley have a shake PWO, but your shake needs carbs too after a workout, not just protein. Read the "Pre, during, Post workout nutrition" sticky at the top of the page for more info on this.

Eat fruit whenever you want.

[uhockey]

Cashews are a poor choice for nuts. High in sat. fat, not high enough in Monos. Look towards almonds and walnuts and pecans.

[bigray]

Originally Posted by uhockey

Cashews are a poor choice for nuts. High in sat. fat, not high enough in Monos. Look towards almonds and walnuts and pecans.

Will do, but i just bought some cashews so what should i do with them? Next time i will get almonds and snack on them with my shake.

[Diab0lic]

Also if you want to mix nuts with cereal, make sure theyre unsalted nuts or youll have salty milk.

[bigray]

what's something good to eat before you head to bed?

[Steve_W]

Cashews are not a poor choice in nuts. The sat. fat content is different to that of animal based sat. fat. I think it's high in lauric acid, like coconuts but I may be mistaken. Lauric acid is healthy.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=98

Here's a little bit on cashews. They are good for you, eat them.

[Steve_W]

Yep, lauric acid is it, I will find a little more on lauric acid in a minute:

"CASHEWS: A native tree of Brazil that has found its way to India, the cashew nut comes from a pear-shaped fruit called the cashew apple. The nut is easily harvested because it grows outside the apple. Almost 90% of all commercial cashews are grown in India.

Cashews are higher in carbohydrates than most nuts and are rich sources of protein, magnesium, phosphorous, potassium, copper, and zinc. Like other nuts, cashews’ fat is mostly oleic acid (60%) and linoleic acid (17%). Cashews are unique, however, in that they contain about 1.5% of lauric acid, a medium chain saturate that possesses potent antimicrobial properties. We will discuss lauric acid more under our next entry, coconut."

[Steve_W]

Ok this goes for coconut, but it is the same satured fatty acid found in cashews and other stuff. Plant based saturates are generally much better than animal based.

"COCONUT: A tree found throughout Polynesia and Hawaii, the coconut has provided nourishment for peoples across the globe for centuries. Coconuts are low in protein and carbohydrates, but are extremely high in fat with the pressed oil being used for cooking throughout the world.

It is this nut’s oil that makes it valuable as a food source. Coconut oil is a whopping 94% saturated, making it a very stable oil for cooking and baking (saturated oils do not break down easily, even when exposed to heat). Most of the fatty acid content is made up of medium chain triglycerides (MCTs), saturated fats that do not require bile for their digestion. MCTs are not stored as adipose tissue and are readily used as energy by the body.

The main MCT in coconut is lauric acid, a triglyceride heavily studied for its antimicrobial properties. It is lauric acid that provides most of the fat content of human breast milk and is what protects the newborn’s intestines from microbial invasions. Recent studies done with lauric acid and coconut oil have demonstrated its effectiveness in treating immune disorders by helping to decrease production of inflammatory cytokines, chemical messengers that activate immune cells, sometimes to ill effects. Effective against a wide range of bacteria, fungi (including candida albicans), and viruses (including herpes simplex), lauric acid is something every health conscious person should have in their diet every day and coconut oil (or other coconut products) is an easy way to accomplish this.

Those of you worrying about coconut oil "clogging your arteries" need not fear as there is no proof that coconut oil (or saturated fats) damage arteries in any way. After all, Polynesian peoples have been eating coconut for centuries with almost non-existent rates of heart disease. As long as the coconut oil you use is food grade, unrefined and non-hydrogenated (check labels), use it freely in your daily diet."

[CLT189]

Originally Posted by bigray

Also, when is the best time to eat fruits like apple, banana, etc

Simply put, never:

http://www.ironmagazine.com/archive/qa_May2002.htm

It does seem strange that when trying to lose bodyfat it is best to avoid fruit, doesn't it? However, while it is true that fruit is quite healthful, virtually fat free, and loaded with vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients, it also contains a natural sugar known as fructose. The molecular structure of fructose is such that it is very easily converted into triglycerides(fats)when passing through the liver. Because fructose is basically metabolized like a fat, it can greatly hinder your efforts toward a ripped physique. Fructose is also a poor choice for post workout nutrition, as it does little to refill muscle glycogen. Further, diets high in this sugar have also been shown to lead to insulin resistance, which can, in and of itself, lead to higher blood fats and bodyfat levels.

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by CLT189

Simply put, never:

http://www.ironmagazine.com/archive/qa_May2002.htm

It does seem strange that when trying to lose bodyfat it is best to avoid fruit, doesn't it? However, while it is true that fruit is quite healthful, virtually fat free, and loaded with vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients, it also contains a natural sugar known as fructose. The molecular structure of fructose is such that it is very easily converted into triglycerides(fats)when passing through the liver. Because fructose is basically metabolized like a fat, it can greatly hinder your efforts toward a ripped physique. Fructose is also a poor choice for post workout nutrition, as it does little to refill muscle glycogen. Further, diets high in this sugar have also been shown to lead to insulin resistance, which can, in and of itself, lead to higher blood fats and bodyfat levels.

Wrong once again:

avoiding fruit is a bad idea because:

1) fruits are calorically sparse & nutritionally dense. not mentally dense like folks who tell others to avoid them.
2) fruits are an effective default fiber & water source. you will **** better & function better.
3) fruits have small amounts of fructose per serving (4-7g). this is perfect for preserving liver glycogen & indirectly, skeletal muscle glycogen status. muscle glycogen is better replenished when small amounts of fructose are present in the postW mix.
4) a liver lacking glyco-replenishment = multiple catabolic signalling cascades = compromised gains in skeletal muscle. fructose facilitates "fed state" signals to the brain. too complex to get into right now, but this is a good thing.
5) fruits contain system & recovery-enhancing phytonutrients & antioxidant factors not present in any other food species.
6) there is not a solitary shred of science indicating ill effects on health, body composition, or physical performance as a result of eating fruit. some of the leanest, longest-living populations on the planet earth eat fruit daily.
7) it would take the consumption of a truck bed of fruits to ingest amounts of fructose associated with negative metabolic effects seen in forcefed rats. the funny thing about this is, fruit is one of the rare foods in nature that you can actually fill yourself up with, & still not tip the balance of risk versus benefit.
8) fruit avoidance just plain makes no damn sense whatsoever -- but then again, how many idiotic bodybuilding myths do you know of that do?

From Alan Aragon: **** you.

[CLT189]

Originally Posted by Steve_W

Wrong once again:

body composition, or physical performance as a result of eating fruit. some of the leanest, longest-living populations on the planet earth eat fruit daily.

Ok just becuz some ppl have great genetics doesn't mean that we all do. And as far as no evidence affecting bodycomp, did you just completely ignore my other post!?

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by CLT189

Ok just becuz some ppl have great genetics doesn't mean that we all do. And as far as no evidence affecting bodycomp, did you just completely ignore my other post!?

That's because your other post is wrong.

The molecular structure of fructose is such that it is very easily converted into triglycerides(fats)when passing through the liver. Because fructose is basically metabolized like a fat, it can greatly hinder your efforts toward a ripped physique.

WRONG. Incrreased triglyceride synthesis only occurs once a ****pile of fructose has been ingested. Whoever wrote these ridiculous is misinformed and over simplifies things. HFCs is the real problem, not fruit.

Fructose is also a poor choice for post workout nutrition, as it does little to refill muscle glycogen.

The liver is the ultimate determinant of full body anabolism. Full liver glycogen = good.

Further, diets high in this sugar have also been shown to lead to insulin resistance, which can, in and of itself, lead to higher blood fats and bodyfat levels.

ahahahaha.

[Luski16]

Originally Posted by CLT189

Simply put, never:

http://www.ironmagazine.com/archive/qa_May2002.htm

It does seem strange that when trying to lose bodyfat it is best to avoid fruit, doesn't it? However, while it is true that fruit is quite healthful, virtually fat free, and loaded with vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients, it also contains a natural sugar known as fructose. The molecular structure of fructose is such that it is very easily converted into triglycerides(fats)when passing through the liver. Because fructose is basically metabolized like a fat, it can greatly hinder your efforts toward a ripped physique. Fructose is also a poor choice for post workout nutrition, as it does little to refill muscle glycogen. Further, diets high in this sugar have also been shown to lead to insulin resistance, which can, in and of itself, lead to higher blood fats and bodyfat levels.

Please stop telling people that fruit is bad....just leave it to your own opinion because fruits are very good and filling.

To the original poster, on top of what RipStone said about cold cereal....optimum power cereal is awesome and if you want cold cereal you could always try your oats cold. Just dump the milk in add whatever else you want to it and eat. Its not as filling this way, but its not bad

[RipStone]

Originally Posted by bigray

what's something good to eat before you head to bed?

Cottage cheese(it will digest slow) and natty pb(will slow down the digestion of the protien even more). The whole point of slow digestion before bed is too avoid night time catobolism while you are sleeping since you are not getting any nutrition for a long time.

BTW, fruits are good...don't avoid them...just an old bb myth IMO.

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by Steve_W

That's because your other post is wrong.



WRONG. Incrreased triglyceride synthesis only occurs once a ****pile of fructose has been ingested. Whoever wrote these ridiculous is misinformed and over simplifies things. HFCs is the real problem, not fruit.



The liver is the ultimate determinant of full body anabolism. Full liver glycogen = good.



ahahahaha.

Well, CLT?

[antbrdwar]

Fruit is good. Theres no point in saying why because Steve has jumped through hoops explaining its wealth of goodness when in a diet. Don't avoid it

[CLT189]

Originally Posted by Steve_W

The liver is the ultimate determinant of full body anabolism. Full liver glycogen = good.

Last time I checked full live glycogen also promotes fat storage!

[GiffyDogg]

Originally Posted by CLT189

Last time I checked full live glycogen also promotes fat storage!

last time WE all checked, you are a ****ing dolt.

you haven't made one good statement yet. keep on trying, though, slugger. you might eventually win that battle.

you see, when you make decisions based on facts, truth, and basic logic, people tend to listen to you.

[badlad4023]

Originally Posted by uhockey

Cashews are a poor choice for nuts. High in sat. fat, not high enough in Monos. Look towards almonds and walnuts and pecans.

Actually cashews are an excellent nut and considered to be one of the healthiest foods one can by. They are loaded with manganese, magnesium, triptophan, copper, and phosphoruos. Big, eat your cashews; don't throw them away.

[bigray]

Originally Posted by Luski16

Please stop telling people that fruit is bad....just leave it to your own opinion because fruits are very good and filling.

To the original poster, on top of what RipStone said about cold cereal....optimum power cereal is awesome and if you want cold cereal you could always try your oats cold. Just dump the milk in add whatever else you want to it and eat. Its not as filling this way, but its not bad

optimum power cereal Where can i get that from? Also, from natural peanut butter where do you get that from? All i ever see in the grocery store is the crunchy peanut butter.

[bigray]

Thanks all for your help.

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by CLT189

Last time I checked full live glycogen also promotes fat storage!

There we go, continue with your ridiculous arguements. You are lame. First you make ridiculous statements, then you back it up with an article some doofus wrote.

[burton]

Sure there are healthier choices of nuts than cashews but they're still good. Dont get rid of them at all. Its way better of a snack than most quick things. I eat them and it hasnt ruined my diet at all.

[joshuatlarson]

Originally Posted by bigray

Is it good to eat cashews for snack? What about eating a little bit of corn flakes? I eat a lot of protein and i am bulking now and i do cardio 2 times a week and weights 4 times a week. Is it good to drink a protein shake for snack and one after working out?

cashews are good always, just watch the salt

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by joshuatlarson

cashews are good always

Very true.

[uhockey]

Can you argue that almonds or walnuts would not be a BETTER choice when consuming nuts? All that Medium Chain Triglyceride stuff is pretty new and not extremely well researched science. I still suggest a minimum of saturated fats regardless of source and until the science comes out to refute cholesterol increase due to excessive Saturated fats I'll just get my trace amounts and consume almonds as my nuts of choice.

[Steve_W]

Originally Posted by uhockey

Can you argue that almonds or walnuts would not be a BETTER choice when consuming nuts? All that Medium Chain Triglyceride stuff is pretty new and not extremely well researched science. I still suggest a minimum of saturated fats regardless of source and until the science comes out to refute cholesterol increase due to excessive Saturated fats I'll just get my trace amounts and consume almonds as my nuts of choice.

This is to do with coconut oil, but lauric acid is the same MCT in cashews:

"The main MCT in coconut is lauric acid, a triglyceride heavily studied for its antimicrobial properties. It is lauric acid that provides most of the fat content of human breast milk and is what protects the newborn’s intestines from microbial invasions. Recent studies done with lauric acid and coconut oil have demonstrated its effectiveness in treating immune disorders by helping to decrease production of inflammatory cytokines, chemical messengers that activate immune cells, sometimes to ill effects. Effective against a wide range of bacteria, fungi (including candida albicans), and viruses (including herpes simplex), lauric acid is something every health conscious person should have in their diet every day and coconut oil (or other coconut products) is an easy way to accomplish this.

Those of you worrying about coconut oil "clogging your arteries" need not fear as there is no proof that coconut oil (or saturated fats) damage arteries in any way. After all, Polynesian peoples have been eating coconut for centuries with almost non-existent rates of heart disease. As long as the coconut oil you use is food grade, unrefined and non-hydrogenated (check labels), use it freely in your daily diet."