First Cycle Enanthate Questions

[loopvinny84]

I have did a little bit of research on this site and it seems to me that most people are stacking different types of gear with each other. So, hopfully you will be able to give me some guidance on just taking one and not stacking it. This is going to be myself and two of my friends first cycle. We have been avidly lifting for about 5 years. A friend of mine got each of us test enanthate. It seems that the suggested use is 250mg-1000mg. We start our cycle this coming monday. He suggests that we take 1000mg a week for 10 weeks followed by a 4 week cycle of nolvadex. Is this good advice? I am not sure if my body type has anything to do with it but I am 200pd 5'10 14% body fat 22yrs, my two friends are about 5'8-5'9 at about 175-185.
If you have any ideas on work-out plans that are specifically designed for someone taking this I would appreciate those ideas as well. One more thing concerning human chorionic gonadotrophin. I asked my friend to get this for us as well as the enanthate with nolvadex, but he said it wasnt neccessary and would be a waste of money because our system wouldnt be totally shut down, as opposed to other lifters stacking test with dbol. Should or should I not also do HCG? Thanks for your time

[GeeNo]

Testosterone enanthate will shut your HPTA down a lot more then dianabol will. With that said, enanthate is a much more solid product to use. Listen closely here, 1000 mg is WAY too much for your first cycle. Absolutely no more then 500 mg at your weight, and I might even recommend 400 mg.

I always recommend HCG, as it will make recovery much easier and smoother, is inexpensive and most importantly safe to use (when used properly of course) at 250 IU twice weekly for no more then eight weeks. You sound like you (and presumably your friends) could use a few extra weeks (or months) of research before you start your cycle, no offense intended.

[know_power]

Originally Posted by GeeNo

Testosterone enanthate will shut your HPTA down a lot more then dianabol will. With that said, enanthate is a much more solid product to use. Listen closely here, 1000 mg is WAY too much for your first cycle. Absolutely no more then 500 mg at your weight, and I might even recommend 400 mg.

I always recommend HCG, as it will make recovery much easier and smoother, is inexpensive and most importantly safe to use (when used properly of course) at 250 IU twice weekly for no more then eight weeks. You sound like you (and presumably your friends) could use a few extra weeks (or months) of research before you start your cycle, no offense intended.

********** X 2 **********

[dillingerescp]

Originally Posted by loopvinny84

I have did a little bit of research on this site and it seems to me that most people are stacking different types of gear with each other. So, hopfully you will be able to give me some guidance on just taking one and not stacking it. This is going to be myself and two of my friends first cycle. We have been avidly lifting for about 5 years. A friend of mine got each of us test enanthate. It seems that the suggested use is 250mg-1000mg. We start our cycle this coming monday. He suggests that we take 1000mg a week for 10 weeks followed by a 4 week cycle of nolvadex. Is this good advice? I am not sure if my body type has anything to do with it but I am 200pd 5'10 14% body fat 22yrs, my two friends are about 5'8-5'9 at about 175-185.
If you have any ideas on work-out plans that are specifically designed for someone taking this I would appreciate those ideas as well. One more thing concerning human chorionic gonadotrophin. I asked my friend to get this for us as well as the enanthate with nolvadex, but he said it wasnt neccessary and would be a waste of money because our system wouldnt be totally shut down, as opposed to other lifters stacking test with dbol. Should or should I not also do HCG? Thanks for your time

Hey, good luck with your cycle.

1000 mg is WAYYY too much. You will see amazing results with 500 mg a week.

[Npeart]

Originally Posted by loopvinny84

I have did a little bit of research on this site and it seems to me that most people are stacking different types of gear with each other. So, hopfully you will be able to give me some guidance on just taking one and not stacking it. This is going to be myself and two of my friends first cycle. We have been avidly lifting for about 5 years. A friend of mine got each of us test enanthate. It seems that the suggested use is 250mg-1000mg. We start our cycle this coming monday. He suggests that we take 1000mg a week for 10 weeks followed by a 4 week cycle of nolvadex. Is this good advice? I am not sure if my body type has anything to do with it but I am 200pd 5'10 14% body fat 22yrs, my two friends are about 5'8-5'9 at about 175-185.
If you have any ideas on work-out plans that are specifically designed for someone taking this I would appreciate those ideas as well. One more thing concerning human chorionic gonadotrophin. I asked my friend to get this for us as well as the enanthate with nolvadex, but he said it wasnt neccessary and would be a waste of money because our system wouldnt be totally shut down, as opposed to other lifters stacking test with dbol. Should or should I not also do HCG? Thanks for your time

I did not like runnning Test Enan alone. I blew up like a blow fish and gained 30 pounds - lots of water and fat. People recomment Test only as a way for you to see how you respond to the compund. I prefer Sust250 first time out, as it is drier than Enan.

[GeeNo]

Originally Posted by Npeart

I did not like runnning Test Enan alone. I blew up like a blow fish and gained 30 pounds - lots of water and fat. People recomment Test only as a way for you to see how you respond to the compund. I prefer Sust250 first time out, as it is drier than Enan.

Testosterone is testosterone - one ester is not going to make you bloat any more then the other.

[Npeart]

Originally Posted by GeeNo

Testosterone is testosterone - one ester is not going to make you bloat any more then the other.

Well, I have run Enan, Cyp and Sust and Enan was by far the worst with the bloat. Just my experience. . .

[xsive]

I know this thread is old, but I thought it would be propper to add to this thread as I was recently given 5 - 250mg viles of Enanthate, and a 20 pack of 50mg Anadrol Tablets. This may be my very first time taking any performance enhancing drugs.

I have reached my physical plateau as I understand.

My question is pretty simple and straight forward....And, Please... if you have any bogus comments, post them elsewhere, and for those who actually care to help - Please forgive my ignorance as there are so many differing opinions and a bunch of ignorant jargon and semantics that raise more questions than answers...

I plan on starting off by taking 1 anadrol every three days. After 10 doses I will start the Enanthate inj's. once a week (250mg inj every Sunday), and continue to take the anadrol every 3 days...(all with proper diet, and workout regiments etc..)

Does this sound right?? or should I just jump in and stack the enanthate cycle right away??

Anyone with any constructive advice will be repped. Any stupid, or irrelevant posts will force me to cry myself to sleep.
Thanks in advance._

[r34man]

I'm no expert in the field of aas but if this is your first cycle as mentioned I would just run the test-e by itself. You might want to save the drol for another cycle.

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by xsive

I know this thread is old, but I thought it would be propper to add to this thread as I was recently given 5 - 250mg viles of Enanthate, and a 20 pack of 50mg Anadrol Tablets. This may be my very first time taking any performance enhancing drugs.

I have reached my physical plateau as I understand.

My question is pretty simple and straight forward....And, Please... if you have any bogus comments, post them elsewhere, and for those who actually care to help - Please forgive my ignorance as there are so many differing opinions and a bunch of ignorant jargon and semantics that raise more questions than answers...

I plan on starting off by taking 1 anadrol every three days. After 10 doses I will start the Enanthate inj's. once a week (250mg inj every Sunday), and continue to take the anadrol every 3 days...(all with proper diet, and workout regiments etc..)

Does this sound right?? or should I just jump in and stack the enanthate cycle right away??

Anyone with any constructive advice will be repped. Any stupid, or irrelevant posts will force me to cry myself to sleep.
Thanks in advance._

why not just make a new thread?

regardless, anadrol isnt really recommended for begineers, it can be pretty harsh. and 20 tabs isnt really a whole lot. you could try a low dose like 25mg/day for 4 weeks, but youre probably not going to see a whole lot from that. also, test E takes at least 4 weeks before you see gains, so def start it in conjunction with the drol. but saving the drol would be a wise choice as stated.

[xsive]

Thanks reps for you both.

What about starting off as stated in my original post - then JUST take the Etest by itself, and when i finish off the Enenthate, finish off the last 10 tabs of drol?

Just looking for advice and opinions. Thanks for answering....And it looks like I will be sleeping fine tonight

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by xsive

Thanks reps for you both.

What about starting off as stated in my original post - then JUST take the Etest by itself, and when i finish off the Enenthate, finish off the last 10 tabs of drol?

Just looking for advice and opinions. Thanks for answering....And it looks like I will be sleeping fine tonight

drol would be ideal at the beginning of the cycle. you generally make some big gains with a compound like drol/dbol then solidify the gains with the test. taking it toward the end might just blow you up real quick then you immediatly crash when PCT begins, likely losing more gains than you would had you used it at the beginning. at least that my take on compounds such as drol...

[xsive]

Thanks Big Ryan! Have you ever taken either yourself?

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by xsive

Thanks Big Ryan! Have you ever taken either yourself?

ive never used drol, but plan on trying it fairly soon. from what ive heard, its very similar to dbol in terms of gains. ive used dbol a few times and my body didnt react too well to it (lethargy, high blood pressure, etc), but most people love the stuff.

[Stanozolol]

dude, anadrol is one of the most toxic oral steroids to use! definately not for a first timer. test by itself will more than satisfy you. also, you dont have enough anadrol to use for a proper cycle. i personally will never use anadrol just from all the bad sides you can get.

[xsive]

Originally Posted by brb_deadlifting

dude, anadrol is one of the most toxic oral steroids to use! definitely not for a first timer. test by itself will more than satisfy you. also, you dont have enough anadrol to use for a proper cycle. i personally will never use anadrol just from all the bad sides you can get.

cool thanks for your opinion.

I have done a lot of research on anadrol so im fairly familiar with its potency. Is anadrol really THAT strong?? I mean I have taken 2-4mg of Xanax a day for almost half a year and that stuff is supposed to be bad for you too. Dont get me wrong I am not comparing xanax to anadrol but just curious about how harmful it can really be. (BTW I haven't taken Xanax for a few months) I also Dont drink alcohol, so my insides are fairly clean. IDK if that makes it worse for me because Im clean so to speak...

It seems the positive benefits of taking anadrol would out weigh the negative.. but that's why I'm asking you guys.

[Fat Ryan]

its not THAT bad, but by no means is it safe...its still liver toxic. but at a low dose, youd be completely fine, especially with liver support supps.

[xsive]

Originally Posted by Fat Ryan

its not THAT bad, but by no means is it safe...its still liver toxic. but at a low dose, youd be completely fine, especially with liver support supps.

Good post

[sixguns]

ya bro i would def bump that test up to at least 400mg a week, or even 500mg, a 250 dose may be fine for some people but personally i dont think it will give you what your after alone, as for the anadrol, yes its toxic, blah blah blah, but no more toxic than most ph/ds, actually i felt m1t was more harmful than anadrol, as for dose wise if you are gonna do it just take 1 tab a day, and find out for yourself, its the best way

[bigbraniff]

im 46yrs / 137lbs / 9pct bf /5'8" (was 186 /25pct bf jan 08- lost it with diet/exercise)
ive been lifting for about 6 yrs on / off and always used a trainer, i now have this new trainer that is a competitive bodybuilder,(been using him about 1 yr now) and under his guidance, im taking 250mg test enanthate per week... im on week 2, feel good mentally , but of course not seeing a lot of gains or anything (maybe a little - could be all im my mind tho).. im just doing the test by itself, due to some pre-existig health issues. diet is tight, and i like to workout , so im trying not to "overtrain".
my question is how long can i take this stuff ? he says its a low dose and sides should be minimal (at 46 my hairs already gett'n thin). my original goal was a mood boost , due to low natural test levels.

is it true that test. E is not as liver toxic as orals?

i assume this dude will hook me up with PCT, but i wonder if it would be necessary at 250mg level?

[Fat Ryan]

Originally Posted by bigbraniff

im 46yrs / 137lbs / 9pct bf /5'8" (was 186 /25pct bf jan 08- lost it with diet/exercise)
ive been lifting for about 6 yrs on / off and always used a trainer, i now have this new trainer that is a competitive bodybuilder,(been using him about 1 yr now) and under his guidance, im taking 250mg test enanthate per week... im on week 2, feel good mentally , but of course not seeing a lot of gains or anything (maybe a little - could be all im my mind tho).. im just doing the test by itself, due to some pre-existig health issues. diet is tight, and i like to workout , so im trying not to "overtrain".
my question is how long can i take this stuff ? he says its a low dose and sides should be minimal (at 46 my hairs already gett'n thin). my original goal was a mood boost , due to low natural test levels.

is it true that test. E is not as liver toxic as orals?

i assume this dude will hook me up with PCT, but i wonder if it would be necessary at 250mg level?

youre 46, why not just go on HRT? youre already almost on a HRT dose of test anyways.

test isnt liver toxic