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Old 12-26-2004, 09:27 AM   #1
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Hows this for losing Fat???

I am Male about 165cm tall and 95Kg and just started my new diet!!!

Since I used to eat so much everyday like, : Large Double Whopper Meal at hungry jacks and sometimes another burger and then KFC, Maccas + Lots of pizza and pasta and the usual junky crap, so you see I am very unhealthy and now going to have a war with my fat, So i thought im giving up and now I did..

First of all to boost my diet I am taking Duromine 40mg Every morning when I wake up.

Also every morning- I have a very small plate of cerial 'Uncle Tobys - Plus Sports Lift) with no fat milk (the thin watery one)

then later on in the afternoon some situps, and at night, some walking (including lots of body movement such as bending picking up elements from light to heavy, twisting etc.. at work (factory job))

some situps and pushups etc before bed.

Now i totally cut down my food, apart from the cerial above everyday, i only eat 1 meal every 2 - 3 (4 max) days. Which is a Subway 6inch Salad roll (Lettuce, tomatoes, pinapples, black olives, pickles) - If u can suggest something smaller and less fatter pelase do so..

How will this go, I also have some energy protein i Bought for gym (choc flav) but never used, should i take this along my diet anywhere will it help..

So far i am on day 6 haven't checked the scale but will at the end of day 30, and i feel very active and more reliable, and much more healthy to be honest.

Any suggestions or comments if you reckon this would improve from what I used to be and used to eat. You reckon It will make a difference on the way I cut down food for diet suddenly?

Cheers, all comments appreciated and no offence taken (including the hungry jacks etc meals which were yum)
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my suggestions and comments:

Post your ACTUAL diet. IE, post a sample of everything you eat in one day, and what times you eat. We will pick your diet apart and tell you where you're going wrong and where you're going right.

Cardio. Walkings not enough. You gotta work up a sweat and get out of breath every day.

Lifting. This is a body building website, we all lift weights, and we want you to as well lol.

Post your stats too so we know what physical level you're at. (US measuremeants, IE lbs and inches/feet are my preference lol)
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Old 12-26-2004, 11:49 AM   #3
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well hmm theres not much I eat in 1 day anymore.

Just cerial Once a day in the afternoon when i wake up for (2pm) work
And Once every 3 days a small subway meal as explained above.

i eat not much.. just trying to burn as many fat as possible by eating less and moving more.

my aim is not to build a strong muscle body, just want to lose fat for now and become a bit skinner than i am corrently?

Hope this helps and if i am the right track please let me know thanks
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I suppose if you want to look like a girly anorexic man you can do it that way, with 1 meal every 3 frickin days.

But if you want quality weight loss and want to look good, you really should consider weights man. It's is a SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN fact that Lean Muscle Mass burns more calories by itself than doing just cardio. It is also proven that eating 6-8 times per day (in small portions of nutritious food) raises your metabolism beyond what you think you had. I eat 7 meals a day right now and lift 4 times per week and my metabolism with the amount I burn a day resembles that one skinny kid that you knew in school that couldn't gain a pound even if he tried. It's helped me to lose over 30 lbs in the last 3 months.

So, repeat after me. DIET (6-8 nutritious meals per day) + Cardio (It is still important for expending calories) + WEIGHTS (You NEED Lean Muscle Mass, you need it badly) = A more trim and attractive physiique and an overall healthier way of life my friend.

Also, consider things like Whey protein powder and glutamine as well as some thermogenic fat burners to give you a boost. These things can't replace what I've just described, but they certainly help and take away some of the super meticulous work.
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Anorexic????

Na man, i doubt id get that skinny. im too fat ..

and thanks for the info i got the whey protein also so il use that now n then, il see how i go with my diet if it goes **** then il check out your style

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I don't mean you'd become anorexic, I mean you'd carry similar traits to them i.e. no muscle mass at all, drained look, exhaustion, just a horrible look and a REALLY unhealthy lifestyle to say the very least.

What I offered above is only my opinion but it's what has worked for me and the hundreds of other people here who are losing weight as we speak. Take it as you will, but my way is backed by science, yours is something you just came up with due to misunderstandings about nutrition. If you want to keep at it, I can't stop you, but I HIGHLY suggest you look into something else other than what you are trying to do.
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6-8 meals a day. No junk, sugar,high protein. Continue eating the way you are and your metabolism will come to a grinding halt. You'll lose most if not all, of your muscle mass and your body will horde fat as a defense mechanism.
You'll be a skinny/fatty. Believe me, not a very pretty sight. And it feels even worse.
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1 Meal every 2-3 days?! Thats a good recipe for massive muscle loss if I ever seen one. And once you lose whatever muscle you have your metabolism will permanently be lowered. Here's a tip for you, every 10 pounds of muscle you have burns 600 calories a day whether you work it out or not... Go find a BMR calculator and never try to go under a 1000 calorie a day deficit if you want to lose weight properly and maintain muscle.
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yeah thanks Big i understand ya,, u have a good point and il use that if mine ails.. i am just looking for the quickest way in my opinion, what are nutrition meals, i dont mean what is it but what are some good ones in your opinion??


Moreps - 'Continue eating the way you are and your metabolism will come to a grinding halt.' - What do you mean, as in continue to eat the way i am now or i used to? i dont eat much at all now..

I feel that i am punnishing myself for eating too much in the passed you know, i have a very stupid apetite when i start to eat, i cant stop. so this is the only solution i found so far..

I just can't eat, i would like to do so but it's the fat that concerns me, every food i look at it has fat this fat that, + carbohydrates etc.. so i cant be bothered with em,

what are some other Fat burning medicine that you would really suggest ones that really work!! Ive tried about 1 - 2 in the passed and they did **** all, whats one that really works and you've seen it work?
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1 Meal every 2-3 days?! Thats a good recipe for massive muscle loss if I ever seen one. And once you lose whatever muscle you have your metabolism will permanently be lowered. Here's a tip for you, every 10 pounds of muscle you have burns 600 calories a day whether you work it out or not... Go find a BMR calculator and never try to go under a 1000 calorie a day deficit if you want to lose weight properly and maintain muscle.

yeah man.. well if you saw how i used to eat you'd understand why .. i just wana lose a bit of the fat thats it.. not all of it, not til i get to the muscle and lose that also.. my metabolism is already stuffed anyway, i ****ed it from all the ****ty foods i toffed down my throat- unhealthy apetite..
other then that- ive heard from people how they lost fat aswell by eating less, but they didnt say 1 meal every 2-3 days, thats just my limit.. they ate once a day and they lost weight.
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Man you can still eat normally u just got to put the right things in your body. Now eating slows down your metabolism, how long do you actually think you can go eating like this??? I think you gotta think more about your overrall health than your appereance. Just read man bb has so many articles that you can read and gain knowledge and have an idea of what you are doing.
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:29 PM   #12
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I only post this possum because you are really really going to hurt yourself in the long run if you continue to do what you're doing.

Please at least have a read of this one page to help you get on the right track.

http://www.leehayward.com/fat_loss_beginners.htm

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=334453

http://www.leehayward.com/fatloss.htm

Hopefully you're reconsider your current strategy, but it is up to you. You will lose weight by starving yourself but you'll find that as soon as you go off your diet all that weight will come back at super rapid speed. However I understand why you want to lose weight really quickly. It's what we all want, however some ways can be better than other ways.
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ddrios34 - il go for a while i reckon, a month or more seeing i have alot of fat, i mean im not feeling so dead or anythign yet, i do feel alot more energetic and feeling more of it coz im not filling myself with that fatty **** and my body can breath and work better. Yeah i am eating normal now subway (but unnormal if you say coz im eating 1 meal per 3 days.. and cerial 1 a day)

also with that some sit-ups & push ups, & power walking...

What is some good drinks to don't fatten you but satisfy your thirst during cardio or just a drink in general?, Powerade etc?? I heard coke, solo etc not good, or is it ok?

anyways, il keep you all up to date as i go with my so called unhealthy stupid diet??? hehe, it's just an experiment.. fasting if you'd say so or ... close to it
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thanks pulsar .. reading it now man.
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:58 PM   #15
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thanks pulsar .. reading it now man.
No worries dude. I'm not trying to tell you what to do or anything. I just wanted to offer some alternatives/suggestions
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When you see all that carbs and fat stuff, don't think it's gonna hurt you when you put it in your body. Every food has something in it that is gonna be part of the big three (fat, carbs, and protein) and these things in moderation are ok. You just have to know how much of each to take in per day and you'll be fine. Combine that with cardio and weights and drinking TONS of water (nothing beats water, nothing), you'll be better off. Don't let some stupid mental block get you down. I've seen people twice your supposed size do it the way I and everyone else in the post is saying to do and they turn out great. You can stay stubborn with your way I suppose, but it's just gonna screw you worse. Yes, worse than the junk food consumption.
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yeah i understand and thanks for advice, but like how is it gona screw me worse, i mean i do eat in the mornings (cerial) ; yeah i know it might not be alot but still and that keeps me going for the day, i feel more better, and i do beleive yours and everybodies elses idea will feel more better than mine also because yes - it is time consuming and healthier way to keep my body up and good metabolism,, but so far and as you'd know, this is my first diet ever and it is a trial, to see how i go and so far my body seems good and is coping well..

But i guess you just gota think of the african/somalians in there land starving from no food & water, i am also just trying to put my feet in there shoes and see how it feels - although many of them do not have any shoes.. u get what i mean yea ..
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possum, what you don't understand is that your body will 'adjust' to starving, and you will stop losing fat. You will lose muscle, and retain more fat than you'd ever imagine.... that's why somolians/ethiopians have guts
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If I may Possum......its hard to understand this but YOU HAVE TO EAT TO LOSE WEIGHT.....hard to believe huh? That's what everyone is trying to tell you in their own way. Starving yourself...or hardly eating....is actually going to make your metabolism slow down even more....you will lose what little muscle mass you have...you will get cranky....and have absolutely no energy at all. Think of your body as a fire place...you have to put wood (food) in it every 3 to 4 hours. Your body is now going to turn this food into energy (heat). I guess what I'm trying to stay is....eat better...stay active...get good sleep and don't expect miracles. You didn't gain weight in one day and your not going to lose it one day either. Good luck...I wish you the best.
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yea ?

well hey thats a different story but man, u see they dont eat, at least i "STILL" eat.. now n then,

see my plans actually should work out, im not really thinking of eating once every 3 days just coz i wanna, im just starting off my diet so my body can clean itself out, get ready for a new world sort of thing u no wat i mean, clean out the crap and then i want to work myself in levels.. like for instance;

month/level 1 (currently in this) - cerial every morning + the usual exercise as above and eat once every 3 days..

month/level2 cerial + bakedbeans or any other low fat high protein meal for the start, and eat every 2 days for meals..

etc.. so far i have that designed, i know its unprofessional but its only an experimental eay of my diet,

if nothing works out and i do not lose 1kg, i will tell you all and you may call me a possum head or possum brains even ??? Haha.

Keep the msg's coming !!
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thanks marine - yea i do know that i have to eat to lose weight, and i know few that didnt eat and still lost it,

but il see at the end of the month, if **** all results, u guys win !!
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possum, what you don't understand is that your body will 'adjust' to starving, and you will stop losing fat. You will lose muscle, and retain more fat than you'd ever imagine.... that's why somolians/ethiopians have guts
I think you are right because they look strange in that they are bone thin all over except for the stomach which is often very fat looking. And they have no choice but to starve a lot of the time
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thanks marine - yea i do know that i have to eat to lose weight, and i know few that didnt eat and still lost it,

but il see at the end of the month, if **** all results, u guys win !!
no but see the thing is, you WILL get results. You will lose weight. You will look better, however the biggest problems will arise only once you have stopped your starvation diet.

You will look flabby as heck. You will lose lots of muscle. You will probably look back and say it's worth it because being thin + flabby is better than just looking big fat and overweight. However, at the end of the day you probably will have problems when you go off the diet and will actually still retain a very flabby look, which I doubt you'd be happy with.

And then, once you finally realize that you are flabby as heck and you want to get rid of the excess fat, you'll realize that the only way to lose it is to go on a proper diet and exercise, at which point you'll gain a hell of a lot of that weight back and then you will almost have to start from square one again. In the end you'd prolly think to yourself that you should have just invested the energy in doing it the 'scientifically proven/tested' way in the first place.

I do wish you every bit of luck though. One thing I can say about you possum is that you are a very determined person and that's great. I can tell that eventually you will get things right and lose the weight properly. I just can't help but to think that if you did it 'right' int he begining then you'd be so much happier in the long term. However you understand what's going on and so it's your decision. Keep us up to date on your progress
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I recently changed my diet. In one month, i lost 4-5lbs and dropped a notch in my belt size (sometimes two notches depending on the type of belt i'm wearing).

Here's my sample diet:

Morning:
-100% whole wheat bread with 100% natural peanut butter
-2 eggs
-glass of skim milk

Snack:
-non fat yogurt
-2 hardboiled eggs

Lunch:
-2 cans of tuna (in spring water, not oil)
-brown rice

Snack:
-eggs
-raw almonds

Dinner:
-chicken breast cooked without sauce, only small ammount of seasoning
-broccoli

I've been taking a multi vitamin each day along with a fish oil capsule as well. Drinking nothing throughout the day but water and sometimes skim milk and/or protein shakes.

From what i've read, it's better to eat MORE (but healthy food) as opposed to LESS (regardless of the food). Eating less puts your body into "starvation mode" (such as eating 1 meal every three days) and also isn't fun in the slightest. Not to mention, when you're eating 1 meal in every 3 days...i'd imagine it would be hard to not want to say "screw it" and go to Taco Bell. You'd have more self control by constantly filling yourself with nutritious foods and water by far. Not to mention, not eating is plain unhealthy.

NOTE: i lost the 4-5lbs by simply changing my diet. i wasn't doing any type of cardio or weight training. Now that i've changed my eating lifestyle, i plan on taking the next step and adding of course, both weight training and cardio for maximum results.
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good dieet.

well when i do eat that subway to be honest after i eat that 6inch i do get pretty close to full, and not want more, i gues this is where the duramine kicks in, and it is wat it is supposed to do for ****ers like me who usually eat alot yea? apart from that it gives more energy, now i duno if its energy enough for my body to live on and do what it should do when i exercise but iguess it wont have the results that natural protein meals would do right?

Well wat if i do eat ok? Let's say i eat., Like every day.

I keep my Cerial every morning hows that?

and have a subway sallad everyday (foot long) , or instead, 2 6inch's a day.. 1 in afternoon, 1 at evening?? ?? or any better? I mean subway ius healthy right?? it aint fake food thats fat, its dedicated to dieters yeah? it was only my suggestion but what yous think ??


Anything else, will this improve the performance and enhancements of my diet & look by eating right ?? not flabby?
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