Are men made to be superior?

[JuanDenver]

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Just a thought.

[Beatitude]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Just a thought.

You mean physiological?

Sorry... I hate to be the annoying rodent to point out an error, but I figure it's relevant.

[hounds]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

psychologically, no. physiologically, hell yes

[Popsicle52]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Just a thought.

Testosterone leads to increased estrogen production which fuses the growth plates and makes you shorter. This is why eunics (people who have their balls cut off) are very tall.

Men aren't made for any purpose since there was probably no creator that made us with a purpose.

[JuanDenver]

Originally Posted by Beatitude

You mean physiological?

Sorry... I hate to be the annoying rodent to point out an error, but I figure it's important.

you can take it both ways if you want, but thats not what i was thinking.


ie height.....psychologically if you confront anyone who is taller than yourself ie by one foot, theres no doubt that the smaller person will psychologically feel inferior.......the man looks down and the woman looks up......men are typically taller than women.

[Popsicle52]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

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ie height.....psychologically if you confront anyone who is taller than yourself ie by one foot, theres no doubt that the smaller person will psychologically feel inferior.......the man looks down and the woman looks up......men are typically taller than women.

maybe if you're insecure about your height. i wont deny though that lots of people are insecure about their height but that's a mental problem not a height problem.

[squanto]

Psychologically no. Physiologically no.

Superior implies a judgement that doesn't fit into a scientific way of thinking. It's like saying every color you see is either black or white. There are trends among sexes, obviously, women live longer, we're stronger. Women can communicate better, we can fight better. These are trends and not rules.

Go ask the dinosaurs how superior their height made them to smaller land mammals.

[JuanDenver]

Originally Posted by hounds

psychologically, no. physiologically, hell yes

double majored in psychology......i know what im talking about.

[Fidelis]

Psychologically superior in what sense? 'Superior' isn't an objective term so you have to define what you mean pretty specifically if this topic is going to be discussed.

[Beatitude]

You can't really argue that men are psyiologically better equipped than women if we are talking in terms of combat. But women are the primary source of reproduction, so you have to take that into consideration. The mere fact that men are obviously just as essential in the initial process of making a baby as women are isn't enough since women are still the ones designed to carry it through into full development and then are equipped to nurture it. Women are also designed to be more tolerant to pain (yes it's true), and have more white blood cells.

[DanielBell]

Originally Posted by squanto

Psychologically no. Physiologically no.

Superior implies a judgement that doesn't fit into a scientific way of thinking. It's like saying every color you see is either black or white. There are trends among sexes, obviously, women live longer, we're stronger. Women can communicate better, we can fight better. These are trends and not rules.

Go ask the dinosaurs how superior their height made them to smaller land mammals.

x2

Men and women both have their roles in society, neither is superior.

[injured44]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

you can take it both ways if you want, but thats not what i was thinking.


ie height.....psychologically if you confront anyone who is taller than yourself ie by one foot, theres no doubt that the smaller person will psychologically feel inferior.......the man looks down and the woman looks up......men are typically taller than women.

yeah the order goes like this

men>>> manlets >>>> boys >>>> women >>>> chicklets >>>> girls

[JuanDenver]

Originally Posted by Fidelis

Psychologically superior in what sense? 'Superior' isn't an objective term so you have to define what you mean pretty specifically if this topic is going to be discussed.

psychology......the study of how one interprets the environment.

will you be intimidated by mini-me or the incredible hulk?

[hounds]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

double majored in psychology......i know what im talking about.

Then why did you pose the question, so you can bitch at the people who disagree with you? I'm shocked....

[Fidelis]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

psychology......the study of how one interprets the environment.

will you be intimidated by mini-me or the incredible hulk?

Right, I know what psychology is. I was asking what you meant by 'superior'. Is someone who more accurately interprets the environment psychologically superior? I'm pretty sure you don't mean that, but I'm not sure what you do mean.

[TricepsNGirls]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

psychology......the study of how one interprets the environment.

will you be intimidated by mini-me or the incredible hulk?

By your rationale, all it takes is a larger and stronger animal to constitute "superiority". Society doesn't operate on such a primitive heuristic, even though things like intimidation and charisma do account to something.

Since you profess yourself to be a psych major, one would have expected you to bring up more pertinent points - analytical skills, emotional intelligence, ambition, cooperativeness, etc, and not physical size of all things.

[Huse]

Not trying to be sexist here, but the way my sister washes the dishes is just... beautiful. I try to learn but I just don't really understand the art form. Oh and the way she organizes the dishwasher is also immaculate. But yeah, she SUCKS at driving.

[coontang]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Those are physiological qualities not psychological.

[potatoe]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

.......height.

Just a thought.

Believe it when it happens.

[Pump that iron!]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Just a thought.

You live in the western world or for that matter, almost anywhere in this world long enough, you will definitely get that impression.

The view that men are superior women can be traced back to before biblical times but the Bible itself is a very patriarchal text that just oozes with the oppression of women.

I mean, you have Eve (the first woman) made from a PART of Adam (his rib) so that Adam would note be lonely. Poor Adam.

And then SHE is still blamed for the fall to temptation by eating the fruit -- I've never heard Adam being blamed. And lastly, God punishes women afterwards with childbirth. Since biblical times, women have been confined to the home with their only roles being mother and caregiver and they have been fighting the good fight ever since. Of course, they have come a long long way now in the western world.

[Gadsden]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

You live in the western world or for that matter, almost anywhere in this world long enough, you will definitely get that impression.

yeah...because non-Western countries have great attitudes towards women.....

[Huse]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

You live in the western world or for that matter, almost anywhere in this world long enough, you will definitely get that impression.

The view that men are superior women can be traced back to before biblical times but the Bible itself is a very patriarchal text that just oozes with the oppression of women.

I mean, you have Eve (the first woman) made from a PART of Adam (his rib) so that Adam would note be lonely. Poor Adam.

And then SHE is still blamed for the fall to temptation by eating the fruit -- I've never heard Adam being blamed. And lastly, God punishes women afterwards with childbirth. Since biblical times, women have been confined to the home with their only roles being mother and caregiver and they have been fighting the good fight ever since. Of course, they have come a long long way now in the western world.

It's odd how the west and the bible are somehow the root of all evil, yet non-western countries are the ones who today are the ones who treat women like ****. Weird!!!

[Pump that iron!]

Originally Posted by Yovy

It's odd how the west and the bible are somehow the root of all evil, yet non-western countries are the ones who today are the ones who treat women like ****. Weird!!!

lawlz

Have you studied the oppression of women in Europe during medieval and early modern times? Hell, even before and after those periods in history.

Oppression of women in the west is not a new thing at all.

[Huse]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

lawlz

Have you studied the oppression of women in Europe during medieval and early modern times? Hell, even before and after those periods in history.

Oppression of women in the west is not a new thing at all.

what the ****? Let's take our heads out of the sand and talk about current day "oppression".

[Pump that iron!]

Originally Posted by Yovy

what the ****? Let's take our heads out of the sand and talk about current day "oppression".

Oh, I didn't know that history has nothing to teach us. /sarcasm

You can't know where you're going if you don't know where you're coming from.

Yes, I imagine you are of European descent? I know, every nation has its skeletons in the closet. You wish to keep them there and not acknowledge your own history. Fine.

oh, and take my head out of the sand? ROFL LMFAO OH THE IRONY IS TOO MUCH!!

[Gadsden]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

Oh, I didn't know that history has nothing to teach us. /sarcasm

You can't know where you're going if you don't know where you're coming from.

Yes, I imagine you are of European descent? I know, every nation has its skeletons in the closet. You wish to keep them there and not acknowledge your own history. Fine.

oh, and take my head out of the sand? ROFL LMFAO OH THE IRONY IS TOO MUCH!!

why not criticize Africa, China, India, Iraq....hell the whole non-Western world?

the West treats women wonderfully, especially compared to the aforementioned countries. (I know Africa is a contient)

[Huse]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

Oh, I didn't know that history has nothing to teach us. /sarcasm

You can't know where you're going if you don't know where you're coming from.

Yes, I imagine you are of European descent? I know, every nation has its skeletons in the closet. You wish to keep them there and not acknowledge your own history. Fine.

oh, and take my head out of the sand? ROFL LMFAO OH THE IRONY IS TOO MUCH!!

Listen buddy, it makes no sense to relate back to the ****ing middle ages as a way to try and assault europeans. What happened hundreds of years ago, is completely irrelevent when the ideals of those people have completely changed from their ancestors of today. However, when other countries, which I'm guessing you already know, treat women like ****, like second citizens because they are women, and then you look past that and try to blame the evil-west you look like a gigantic retard.

[An hero]

Originally Posted by SeniorDiscount

From a strictly psychological point of view...

Testosterone and all that goes along with it.....deeper voices.........stronger bodies...........and the one reason why I thought of this.......height.

Just a thought.

Yes.

[Pump that iron!]

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

why not criticize Africa, China, India, Iraq....hell the whole non-Western world?

the West treats women wonderfully, especially compared to the aforementioned countries. (I know Africa is a contient)

Pfft. You can justify a LOT of **** when you compare what you do to **** being done in the middle east, etc.

I'm talking about the west. We don't reference all of our decisions with Africa, China, India, etc. Do you honestly think women are treated EQUALLY as men in North America? Lets set our own standards shall we?

[Huse]

Originally Posted by Pump that iron!

Pfft. You can justify a LOT of **** when you compare what you do to **** being done in the middle east, etc.

I'm talking about the west. We don't reference all of our decisions with Africa, China, India, etc. Do you honestly think women are treated EQUALLY as men in North America? Lets set our own standards shall we?

Ok, standards, how about women's right to vote. Which Western countries don't allow women to vote? Oh none. Which only two countries don't allow women to vote? I'll give you a hint, one is from the Middle East and one is from Asia. Also Lebanon only grants partial suffrage.