What will Bush do first...hummmmm

[The_Cleric]

Major offensive to take Fallujah ...

They've been waiting for the end of the election for it. It's coming in a day or two. How many Americans will die?

What in the world are these guys going to die for? The Freedom for the people of Iraq to elect an Islamic government? What a Joke...

Everyone in here is cheering on Bush yet not one of you have to do the dirty work he is forcing on our armed forces.

Billions spent tiring to rebuild a country when that money could have been spent here...cheer on

Ignorance is bliss....GO BUSH

[bubba g]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

Major offensive to take Fallujah ...

They've been waiting for the end of the election for it. It's coming in a day or two. How many Americans will die?

What in the world are these guys going to die for? The Freedom for the people of Iraq to elect an Islamic government? What a Joke...

Everyone in here is cheering on Bush yet not one of you have to do the dirty work he is forcing on our armed forces.

Billions spent tiring to rebuild a country when that money could have been spent here...cheer on

Ignorance is bliss....GO BUSH

the troops who are doing the dirty work support bush by a huge margin....

[HardKnockNES]

The major offensive is coming from the air, not the ground.

I am sure we will do some "cleaning up" once the air raids are done, and sure a few soldiers might die. But killling the militants that are doing suicide bombs everyday can only save lives in the long run.

[Viking22]

Originally Posted by bubba g

the troops who are doing the dirty work support bush by a huge margin....

Shhhhhh, that's just a fact that gets in the way of an emotional outcry.

OHHHHHH, WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

[GulfCoastAquari]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

Major offensive to take Fallujah ...

Are you a seige expert. A decorated general, perhaps? Do you have a better plan to stifle the insurgents? Let's hear it.

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by GulfCoastAquari

Are you a seige expert. A decorated general, perhaps? Do you have a better plan to stifle the insurgents? Let's hear it.

AAaaaaahhhh I see you have spent some time playing your playstation games... Since I don't play video games How about we let the people of Iraq deal with their "insurgents" on their own


That sounds like a plan


But, if your so gung ho how come you have not enlisted?

[GulfCoastAquari]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

AAaaaaahhhh I see you have spent some time playing your playstation games... Since I don't play video games How about we let the people of Iraq deal with their "insurgents" on their own

That sounds like a plan

But, if your so gung ho how come you have not enlisted?

I've got one PS2 game, and one game only - GT3, baby. So I don't know what the hell games you've been playing that make you think they have anything to do with this.
The people of Iraq aren't equipped to deal with the insurgents. That's the whole reason someone like Saddam ended up in power. Even now that the people of Iraq are empowered, they are still fearful to rise up and take control of their country. It takes time.
I don't need to enlist to show my support of our troops. I've always been a fat, unathletic klutz, otherwise I might have enlisted when I was younger. Only recently have I woken up and taken in interest in fitness.

So anyway, your plan is just to pull out and let Iraq take care of its own problems? Oh yeah, that would create a model of stability. Next idea?

[DanMc]

He should be taking a rest and having sex with his wife then do what ever comes next.

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by GulfCoastAquari

I've got one PS2 game, and one game only - GT3, baby. So I don't know what the hell games you've been playing that make you think they have anything to do with this.
The people of Iraq aren't equipped to deal with the insurgents. That's the whole reason someone like Saddam ended up in power. Even now that the people of Iraq are empowered, they are still fearful to rise up and take control of their country. It takes time.
I don't need to enlist to show my support of our troops. I've always been a fat, unathletic klutz, otherwise I might have enlisted when I was younger. Only recently have I woken up and taken in interest in fitness.

So anyway, your plan is just to pull out and let Iraq take care of its own problems? Oh yeah, that would create a model of stability. Next idea?

I see your a whole lot like Bush both of you like the fight game as long as you don't have to be the one fighting.

I care about Americans...I could care less if Iraq implodes.

If the people of Iraq want Freedom let them fight for it.

Let me educate you about America. Our servicemen will die and we will change nothing. Those who we die for trying to protect and grant freedom to will be thankless. In the end it will all be for nothing. Yet we are so willing to have them die for a fight that is not ours.

How does the “freedom" of Iraq help us in our "war" on terror? There are more terrorist in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia then in Iraq. If this was a war on terror why are we not in Pakistan?

[DanMc]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

How does the “freedom" of Iraq help us in our "war" on terror? There are more terrorist in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia then in Iraq. If this was a war on terror why are we not in Pakistan?

Because terrorism is in that country also and they have the oil and we should take it because we can.

[e-reloaded]

Originally Posted by DanMc

Because terrorism is in that country also and they have the oil and we should take it because we can.

lol at the oil part

also Bush went to Iraq bc of WMD, wtf where are all the WMDs he talked so much about?

he should have went to N.Korea instead

[alexwwe]

Originally Posted by e-reloaded

lol at the oil part

also Bush went to Iraq bc of WMD, wtf where are all the WMDs he talked so much about?

he should have went to N.Korea instead

The WMD's are in bush's backyard, we shouldve went after N. Korea first.

[GulfCoastAquari]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

If the people of Iraq want Freedom let them fight for it.

If you're ignorant enough to believe that what goes on in Iraq does not affect us, then this debate is not worth a single more moment of my time. We're not alone, buddy. Let me educate you about the harsh reality we live in. We sat around for years pretending that the terrorists would never strike us here. They did. And now is not the time for sitting around and pretending we can just let them "duke it out". The terrorists attacked US, and now it is time to kill them, put them on the run, and generally make their lives miserable so thay cannot attack us again.

When you say that the efforts of our servicemen are all for nothing, you take away every shred of hope they have in victory over there. And if "being right" is more important to you than fixing the mess in Iraq, then you're even more screwed up than I imagined.

Right now, it doesn't matter where there might be more terrorists. Monday Morning Quarterbacks are a waste of air. Realize this - WE ARE THERE, and we need to finish the job.
You sound like a broken record when you keep asking about the WMD we went to war for. Because it doesn't change a thing! We have to stay the course and finish the job. There still might be WMD's there, there might not. The truth is that we probably shouldn't have gone, but WE ARE THERE NOW! And if you're stupid enough to think that the best plan is to just pull out and let them sort it out, then I have already wasted my time.

[sensitivebody]

all i know is that :


DOWN WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE DONT NEED THESE RATS REPUBLICANS. PUT THEM ALL IN A SACK AND SHIP THEM OFF TO AFRICA SO THEY CAN BE RAPED IN THE ANUS BY ELEPHANTS. ****IN REDNECK. aye matey pazz me the shogun to kill some coyootees wilya. ****ing rednecks.

[chrisrock]

Originally Posted by sensitivebody

all i know is that :


DOWN WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE DONT NEED THESE RATS REPUBLICANS. PUT THEM ALL IN A SACK AND SHIP THEM OFF TO AFRICA SO THEY CAN BE RAPED IN THE ANUS BY ELEPHANTS. ****IN REDNECK. aye matey pazz me the shogun to kill some coyootees wilya. ****ing rednecks.

Intelligence Level = 0

[Norman]

I´m glad that i don´t live in Teheran right now, even more than usual.

[j_squeeze]

type "troops support bush" in google see what u get.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...h-troops_x.htm

and about the WMD...realize Saddam has known for many many years that someday America or other country will invade. If your a drug dealer and you've been warned many times over and over again that your gonna be invaded are u gonna keep your drugs on u? No you're gonna hide them...its all a matter of finding where they're hidden. Think an atomic bomb can fit in a suit case...so...how easy is that to hide?

[matpal]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

Major offensive to take Fallujah ...

They've been waiting for the end of the election for it. It's coming in a day or two. How many Americans will die?

What in the world are these guys going to die for? The Freedom for the people of Iraq to elect an Islamic government? What a Joke...

Everyone in here is cheering on Bush yet not one of you have to do the dirty work he is forcing on our armed forces.

Billions spent tiring to rebuild a country when that money could have been spent here...cheer on

Ignorance is bliss....GO BUSH

Dude, this is like the 5th thread you have made today bashing Bush. Get over it.

Can you tell me what was the genius plan of Kerry? No, you cant? That is because he had no plan, he was clueless. the only thing he could do is say Bush was wrong but offered not insight on a "right" plan. How smart is that? that is why he looked so good in the debates, but the honesty vote still went to Bush in a landslide, because we know Kerry was trying to be everything to everybody and he wound up being nothing.

[Natbornthrilla]

Let me shed some light on this subject. First of all I am a huge Bush supporter. I support the war.

Lets just say this.... when our troops enlisted in the military they knew there was a chance to go to war. Remember this... people do not teach accountants to throw a hand grenade therefore they do not have a good chance of going to war. If you don't want to fight in a war then do not enlist in the military. Go be an accountant. People in the military support Bush because they see what they are doing as beneficial. Liberal TV shows you all the negatives. How many times has CNN shown girls in school for the first time? None. How many times has CNN shown a video 10 minutes before someone got beheaded? Plenty.

How does Iraqi freedom lead to decreased terrorism? When the people of Iraq see what they have been missing they will change there anti-American views. Vise-versa if the average American went to Iraq they would see how good we have it here in the U.S.

[Snoopis]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

Major offensive to take Fallujah ...

They've been waiting for the end of the election for it. It's coming in a day or two. How many Americans will die?

This thread is crap, but I do have a thought on this(imagine that!).

I wouldn't be surprised if this does happen, but the question shouldn't be how many will die, it should be how many have died because this action was delayed?

And why would he delay it? Because people like you would have bitched about it.

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by GulfCoastAquari

If you're ignorant enough to believe that what goes on in Iraq does not affect us, then this debate is not worth a single more moment of my time. We're not alone, buddy. Let me educate you about the harsh reality we live in. We sat around for years pretending that the terrorists would never strike us here. They did. And now is not the time for sitting around and pretending we can just let them "duke it out". The terrorists attacked US, and now it is time to kill them, put them on the run, and generally make their lives miserable so thay cannot attack us again.

When you say that the efforts of our servicemen are all for nothing, you take away every shred of hope they have in victory over there. And if "being right" is more important to you than fixing the mess in Iraq, then you're even more screwed up than I imagined.

Right now, it doesn't matter where there might be more terrorists. Monday Morning Quarterbacks are a waste of air. Realize this - WE ARE THERE, and we need to finish the job.
You sound like a broken record when you keep asking about the WMD we went to war for. Because it doesn't change a thing! We have to stay the course and finish the job. There still might be WMD's there, there might not. The truth is that we probably shouldn't have gone, but WE ARE THERE NOW! And if you're stupid enough to think that the best plan is to just pull out and let them sort it out, then I have already wasted my time.

Who is ignorant?

There were no terrorist in Iraq until we went there, America has Made 100's of new terrorist by attacting a country that was not involed in international terrorism to begin with.

You could slap "Made By America" on every "terrorist" found in Iraq today.

As far as pulling out...what would you rather see...America dumping Billions into there country? Hundreds of Americans killed? Please don't tell me that you think that they will develop a "Western Stlye" Government who will be friendly to America....hahahahahahaha


Let me school you...It won't happen

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by Natbornthrilla

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How does Iraqi freedom lead to decreased terrorism? When the people of Iraq see what they have been missing they will change there anti-American views. Vise-versa if the average American went to Iraq they would see how good we have it here in the U.S.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha


Your joking ....right?


Please tell me your joking........hahahahahaha

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by Snoopis

This thread is crap, but I do have a thought on this(imagine that!).

I wouldn't be surprised if this does happen, but the question shouldn't be how many will die, it should be how many have died because this action was delayed?

And why would he delay it? Because people like you would have bitched about it.

I did not delay the attack....I am saying we had no business in Iraq in the first place.


Well at least your trying to think....


BB.com sure has a whole lot of Warriors ....hahahaha the playstation type.

[GulfCoastAquari]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

There were no terrorist in Iraq until we went there, America has Made 100's of new terrorist by attacting a country that was not involed in international terrorism to begin with.

There were no terrorists in Iraq?? Oh really? So what were all those terrorist training camps we destroyed? Well I guess those terrorists hadn't "technically" graduated to full terrorists yet, huh?
Who is ignorant? You are, my man.

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

As far as pulling out...what would you rather see...America dumping Billions into there country? Hundreds of Americans killed? Please don't tell me that you think that they will develop a "Western Stlye" Government who will be friendly to America....hahahahahahaha

I'd rather spend the billions now, stabilizing the region, than spending 10x that amount in money and loss of life, after the region slips into something even worse than Saddam or Osama bin Laden. No one said it would end up a "western style" anything. They have the freedom right now to form their own constituion, but it will be based on a democracy in which the people have the power, not the government.
As for being friendly to America, that's the last thing any of us expect.

[NuggzTheNinja]

North Korea no doubt has a rediculous array of chemical and biological weapons. Syria "inherited" all of Saddam's WMDs during the time period that Bush gave Saddam leading up to the war. Hilarious...really. It's a new kind of domino theory! "Get rid of your WMDs!" 'ok' "now we're invading you!" *ships WMDs to another country* cycle repeats.

Bush will try to make a case for invading Syria. If we have any sense, we'll shoot that down. If we do invade Syria, Bush will also want to invade North Korea.

When the bombs start dropping, I'm not gonna be the one to go fight Bush's wars.

If I need to take a plane to get there, a war ain't worth fighting in. See what I'm saying?

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by The_Cleric

What in the world are these guys going to die for? The Freedom for the people of Iraq to elect an Islamic government? What a Joke...

The main reason I'm glad Bush beat Kerry in the election

[Norman]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

Bush will try to make a case for invading Syria. If we have any sense, we'll shoot that down. If we do invade Syria, Bush will also want to invade North Korea.

I don´t believe that will happen. The US forces are occupied in Iraq and Afghanistan, there aren´t enough soldiers to occupy another country.

And noone will attack NK aslong as they have nukes.
Besides there is hardly anything to gain in NK and this regime will collapse anyway, just like the Soviet Union did.

[BigZeke]

Originally Posted by NuggzTheNinja

If I need to take a plane to get there, a war ain't worth fighting in. See what I'm saying?

I guess World War I and II were worthless, as well as Gulf War I? Nice to see you support genocide, and tyranny.

[Natbornthrilla]

The only thing I can say is that if our President starts killing everyone who disagrees with him I would really appreciate it if some other country (Britain, or possibly the other countries in the U.N.) would step in and get him out of power and stay in America until we got a new power in office. That is what we did in Iraq. Yes the WMD were moved during all of the diplomacy talks with Saddam. They may not have found nukes but they did atleast find a few things on the banned weapons list. So Saddam wasn't innocent by any stretch. I would 100% support an invasion of our country if President Bush was commiting acts of dictatorship.

[The_Cleric]

Originally Posted by GulfCoastAquari

There were no terrorists in Iraq?? Oh really? So what were all those terrorist training camps we destroyed? Well I guess those terrorists hadn't "technically" graduated to full terrorists yet, huh?
Who is ignorant? You are, my man.


I'd rather spend the billions now, stabilizing the region, than spending 10x that amount in money and loss of life, after the region slips into something even worse than Saddam or Osama bin Laden. No one said it would end up a "western style" anything. They have the freedom right now to form their own constituion, but it will be based on a democracy in which the people have the power, not the government.
As for being friendly to America, that's the last thing any of us expect.

Let me truly show who the ignorant one....is

There were no terrorist training camps. You are taking statements that our government made at the beginning of the war but backed off as soon as it was investigated. You have not heard a thing about training camps since last year...nor will you ever hear about it again. They were never there. Just like the WMD it was Bush trying to justify the war and tie it into 9/11.

If there were Terrorist training camps don't you think BUSH would have been talking about it and using it as an example of why we are there? But, NO he does not talk about it because it was investigated and PROVED to be unfounded...another example of the uneducated following blindly don't you think.

So you rather spend billions...hahaha your kind of generous with my tax dollars buddy. I suggest that that money could be spent on something better then building up a country we destroyed. You can not think of one thing better to do with those billions? Come on....THINK.

I wanted to laugh at you for making this statement...but I won't, I don't think you are not "worldly" enough to really understand:

"They have the freedom right now to form their own constitution, but it will be based on a democracy in which the people have the power, not the government."

A democracy? hahahaha maybe if we stay for 4 generations it will happen.

You sound like a Bush commercial.