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Spreading the Love, 9 Dead, 140 Wounded!
At least nine people have been killed in clashes between security forces and militant students at a mosque in the Pakistani capital, officials say.
A soldier, two students and a journalist were among the dead.
After several hours of shooting outside the controversial Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) a ceasefire was negotiated.
Armed students at the mosque and religious schools linked to it have defied the authorities for months in a campaign for Islamic Sharia law.
The mosque and the two madrassas (religious schools) attached to it - one for men, the other for women - have been at the centre of a number of high-profile incidents.
These include the kidnapping of police and people the mosque's leaders say are involved in immoral activities such as prostitution.
Fighting around the Lal Masjid raged throughout much of Tuesday.
Deputy interior minister Zafar Warriach told a news conference: "The deaths of nine people have been confirmed so far and more than 140 wounded."
Other reports have put the number killed higher.
Speaking to the BBC, Information Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani said the government was still discussing how to handle the situation.
The BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan who is outside the mosque says the ceasefire was negotiated by a politician from the MMA, a coalition of Islamic parties.
Later on Tuesday, students also attacked the nearby Ministry of Environment, setting fire to a number of vehicles in its car park.
At the height of the violence, regular police and paramilitary units ringing the mosque compound were replaced by what appeared to be special forces, our correspondent says.
Ambulances and journalists were told to move further away from the scene.
People fled from busy shopping areas as masked students traded fire with security forces. Dozens of other students - mostly armed with sticks and petrol bombs - patrolled the area.
Among those killed was at least one passer-by, officials said. The journalist who died was a cameraman filming for a private television station.
The killing of the paramilitary soldier was the first fatality in the prolonged stand-off between the authorities and the students.
A senior paramilitary official said the soldier had been "killed in the firing from inside the mosque".
Doctors at a nearby hospital said they were treating about 60 people suffering the effects of tear gas, the Associated Press news agency reported.
Several students had bullet wounds, doctors said.
'Security links'
Critics have attacked the government for failing to enforce its authority in the capital.
President Musharraf has previously said security forces cannot raid the mosque for fear of reprisal suicide attacks.
BBC correspondents say it is thought the mosque has powerful friends in the security services, which has prevented the authorities from taking action.
But the fact that people have now been killed in the stand-off suggests the situation may be turning against the mosque leaders, our correspondents say.
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07-03-2007, 01:06 PM
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This looks like another case of evil-western-itis
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07-03-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Yovy
This looks like another case of evil-western-itis
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No, they keep shooting each other in shopping mauls, not at mosques.. Occasionally, somebody goes postal and blows up an entire building (like McVeigh...was he Muslim? Don't think so...), so 9 killed still seems much milder to me... Sure, it's horrible, but don't start making statistics about Muslim fundamentalism just yet...
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07-03-2007, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by matt555
No, they keep shooting each other in shopping mauls, not at mosques.. Occasionally, somebody goes postal and blows up an entire building (like McVeigh...was he Muslim? Don't think so...), so 9 killed still seems much milder to me... Sure, it's horrible, but don't start making statistics about Muslim fundamentalism just yet...
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uhm, wtf does this have to do with muslim fundamentalism? way to go off tangent buddy, this has everything to do with western imperialists trying to use their elite war mongering tactics to take over the civilized middle eastern world.
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07-03-2007, 02:11 PM
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He clearly brought up the subject to instigate and to make non-westerners look like barbarians. The message of my answer was: find your terrorists at home, there's plenty of them there.
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07-03-2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by matt555
He clearly brought up the subject to instigate and to make non-westerners look like barbarians. The message of my answer was: find your terrorists at home, there's plenty of them there.
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Welcome to being an incredible ethnically, economically, fundamentally, religiously, politically diverse country like USA! Some crazies do live here!
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07-03-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by matt555
No, they keep shooting each other in shopping mauls, not at mosques.. Occasionally, somebody goes postal and blows up an entire building (like McVeigh...was he Muslim? Don't think so...), so 9 killed still seems much milder to me... Sure, it's horrible, but don't start making statistics about Muslim fundamentalism just yet...
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Do the math chump:
A shortened list of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 weeks:
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
7/3/07 Pakistan Islamabad 2 0 A Pakistani soldier and a cameraman are shot to death by student radicals at a madrassah.
7/2/07 Yemen Marib 9 8 Seven Spanish tourists and their two drivers are murdered by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber, who rams into their convoy.
7/2/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 7 0 Seven Afghan cops are blown to bits by a Taliban roadside bombing.
7/2/07 Iraq Baghdad 9 33 Sunni radicals car bomb a Shia neighborhood, sending at least nine innocents to Allah.
7/2/07 Iraq Baghdad 26 18 Sectarian terror attacks between Sunnis and Shias leave over two dozen dead.
7/2/07 Pakistan Mir Ali 1 1 al-Qaeda backed militants kill a Pakistani who resists kidnapping.
7/2/07 Afghanistan Khost 1 1 An education director is gunned down by religious extremists.
7/2/07 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim radicals murder a 47-year-old rubber tapper on his way to work.
7/2/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 28-year-old villager is shot to death by Islamists.
7/1/07 Iraq Mosul 19 0 At least nineteen bodies surface around the country of civilians kidnapped and executed by the Mujahideen.
7/1/07 Iraq Baghdad 18 12 A suicide bombing and other Jihad attacks account for fifteen dead Iraqis.
7/1/07 Iraq Ramadi 7 20 Seven Iraqi police are killed in separate suicide attacks by Fedayeen.
7/1/07 Afghanistan Helmand 1 4 A British soldier is killed by a suicide bomber.
7/1/07 Thailand Pattani 1 2 Muslim terrorists fire on a group of young students, killing a 58-year-old teacher and injuring two boys, ages 9 and 11.
7/1/07 Thailand Pattani 1 2 A woman is killed, and two other people injured when Islamic gunmen fire into a Buddhist tea shop.
7/1/07 Chechnya Grozny 2 2 A landmine attack kills two Russians.
6/30/07 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamic militants murder a 53-year-old man.
6/30/07 Iraq Baghdad 16 8 Sixteen Iraqis are murdered in various sectarian attacks.
6/30/07 Iraq Ferris 40 0 Children are beheaded as al-Qaeda massacres an entire village of Iraqis.
6/30/07 Iraq Muqdadiyah 25 22 A suicidal Sunni sends over two-dozen innocent people to the grave with a market blast.
6/30/07 Iraq Fallujah 4 0 Four people are beheaded by Islamic terrorists.
6/30/07 Iraq Asiriya 2 12 Two children are killed, and a dozen more injured, when Jihadis mortar a soccer field.
6/30/07 India Pulwama 1 0 A civilian is abducted and murdered by the Mujahideen.
6/30/07 Scotland Glasgow 0 5 Hoping for mass casualites, Islamic radicals ram a car filled with gas canisters into the main entrance of an airport.
6/30/07 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 Islamic militias assassinate a government official.
6/30/07 Chechnya Vedeno 1 2 Holy Warriors ambush a security patrol, killing one member.
6/29/07 Afghanistan Khost 1 0 Religious extremists kidnap and behead a language interpreter.
6/29/07 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three women are murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/29/07 Iraq Mishada 8 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders eight Iraqis.
6/29/07 Pakistan FATA Region 1 0 An Afghan civilian is kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic militants.
6/29/07 Iraq Baghdad 15 11 At least three women are among fifteen people shot to death or blown up by Muslim terrorists.
6/29/07 Iraq Kut 11 1 A university professor is shot several time in the head and neck. Ten others are also murdered by Muslim terrorists.
6/29/07 Pakistan Tirah 1 0 Laskhar-i-Islam militants stone a man to death.
6/29/07 Pakistan Larkana 2 0 A man shoots his wife and sister-in-law to death in an 'honor killing.'
6/28/07 Afghanistan Paktika 1 8 An 18-year-old Afghan civilian is killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
6/28/07 Afghanistan Kabul 3 8 Two American civilians and an Afghan woman are killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
6/28/07 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two teenagers are shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
6/28/07 Iraq Baghdad 30 34 Several mortar attacks and shootings leave thirty Iraqis dead at the hands of Islamic terrorists.
6/28/07 Iraq Baghdad 25 50 Sunni radicals blow twenty-five innocent people to Allah at a bus stop.
6/28/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 Islamic terrorists target a security convoy along a busy road, killing two members.
6/28/07 Thailand Songkhla 1 0 A 51-year-old village guard is shot to death by Jihadis as he is returning home.
6/28/07 India Pulwama 1 16 Lashkar-e-Toiba militants attack a security patrol, killing one member.
6/28/07 India Ramban 1 0 A civilian is abducted and beheaded by the Religion of Peace.
6/27/07 Somalia Bardhere 1 1 The driver of a vehicle is killed in a bombing attack by Muslim militants.
6/27/07 Iraq Baghdad 10 24 Islamic terrorists set off two car bombs, killing ten people.
6/27/07 Iraq Samarrah 11 6 Eleven Iraqis are killed in at least two separate Jihad attack, here and in Kirukuk.
6/27/07 Iraq Al Khalis 19 28 Islamic terrorists barrage a residential area with mortars, killing at least nineteen innocents.
6/27/07 Thailand Yala 3 17 Muslims kill three people at a market, by hiding a bomb in a basket.
6/27/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 2 Two civilians are killed when Muslim terrorists toss a grenaded into a market.
6/27/07 Iraq Baghdad 21 0 Twenty-one victims of sectarian violence between Sunni and Shia are found bound and executed.
6/27/07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christians are murdered by Sunni radicals.
6/27/07 Somalia El-Berde 2 0 Two humanitarian workers, one a doctor, are brutally gunned down.
6/26/07 Iraq Basra 1 0 A religious cleric is gunned down by Muslim rivals.
6/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu 6 9 Five cleaning women are among six killed by an Islamic bomb.
6/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu 1 3 Islamists detonate a roadside bomb, killing one bystander.
6/26/07 Thailand Pattani 1 4 A Muslim radical calmly fires into a Buddhist tea shop, killing at least one patron.
6/26/07 India Pulwama 1 0 Militant Islamists abduct a constable from his home and behead him.
6/26/07 Bangladesh Nilphamari 0 10 Ten Christian converts from Islam are savagely beaten by a Muslim mob.
6/25/07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two middle-aged men are gunned down in separate attacks by Muslim radicals.
6/25/07 India Doda 2 14 The Mujahideen toss a grenade into a bus stand, killing two people.
6/25/07 Iraq Baghdad 12 21 A Fedayeen bomber blasts a dozen people at a peace and reconciliation conference to death.
6/25/07 Iraq Baiji 27 62 Suicide bombers ram an explosives-laden truck into a gate, killing over two dozen innocents in the blast.
6/25/07 Iraq Mosul 3 42 Three civilians are killed when Islamic terrorists bomb a residential area.
6/25/07 Iraq Baghdad 16 3 Jihadis rack up sixteen dead Iraqis in various attacks.
6/25/07 Lebanon Nahr al-Bared 2 0 A soldier and a civilian are killed by a Fatah al-Islam sniper.
6/25/07 Somalia Hurwa 2 2 A woman and a man are killed when Islamic militias slam a rocket into their house.
6/24/07 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two elderly Buddhist brothers are murdered by radical Muslims, who then burn their bodies.
6/24/07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two Thai rangers are shot by Islamic terrorists while riding motorcycles.
6/24/07 Lebanon Dardara 6 2 Militant Islamists kill six UN Peacekeepers with a powerful suicide bomb.
6/24/07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two women, including a female journalist, are gunned down by Muslim radicals.
6/24/07 Iraq Baghdad 14 6 The head of a childrens hospital is among fourteen people murdered by Islamic terrorists.
6/24/07 Iraq Balad 1 0 Fundamentalists assassinate a feminist.
6/24/07 Iraq Khalis 3 3 Islamic terrorists kill three girls and injure their mother and father in a bomb attack on the family vehicle.
6/24/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 2 Religious extremists attack a police station, killing three Afghans.
6/24/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 A man and a woman are shot to death by a suspected Muslim militant.
6/23/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 42-year-old Buddhist laborer is brutally killed and then set on fire by Muslim terrorists.
6/23/07 Iraq Kufa 2 0 Muslim terrorists shoot a married couple to death.
6/23/07 Lebanon Nahr el-Bared 3 0 Three Lebanese troops are killed by a Fatah al-Islam bomb.
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07-03-2007, 02:23 PM
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Dude that seems like alot Chowboy, but Americans are all terrorists so surely we have comparable numbers (being a large, diverse country and all?)
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07-03-2007, 02:28 PM
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It's really a coincidence the majority of the terrorist acts happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
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07-03-2007, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Yovy
Dude that seems like alot Chowboy, but Americans are all terrorists so surely we have comparable numbers (being a large, diverse country and all?)
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Well, don't forget about McVeigh... and, and, and oh yeah, the abortion doctor murderers, and, and, and, oh yeah, the KKK.
Yep, you're right we are nothing but a bunch of terrorists, Israeli's too.
sarcasm off.
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07-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by matt555
It's really a coincidence the majority of the terrorist acts happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
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I pay close attention to Thailand as it's one of my favorite places to go in the world and I saw it on that list numerous times. In fact, not 1 week went by while I was there when a bombing did not go off in the southern area by Muslim extremists.
I believe SK justified it about a month or two ago when he spewed some bull**** about Thailand stealing Muslim land, blah blah blah.
Also, I see India on there quite a few times as well........
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07-03-2007, 02:36 PM
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Which isn't a surprise, I guess, due to its huge population and diversity. I don't want to be misunderstood; all these terrorist acts are repulsive and shouldn't have happened. But we can't just go blaming the Muslims for everything.
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07-03-2007, 02:39 PM
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It's really a coincidence the majority of the terrorist acts happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
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Oh yeah, that's right! That's because of American Imperialism, uh?
Yeah, that's the ticket. We spend a significant amount of American Blood and American Capital trying to bring dignity and self determination to an oppressed and frequently murdered people, and it's our fault.
How's the Kool Aid?
Oh, BTW, define majority.
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Just for fun, here's ONE more weeks worth of "love:"
6/24/07 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two elderly Buddhist brothers are murdered by radical Muslims, who then burn their bodies.
6/24/07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two Thai rangers are shot by Islamic terrorists while riding motorcycles.
6/24/07 Lebanon Dardara 6 2 Militant Islamists kill six UN Peacekeepers with a powerful suicide bomb.
6/24/07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two women, including a female journalist, are gunned down by Muslim radicals.
6/24/07 Iraq Baghdad 14 6 The head of a childrens hospital is among fourteen people murdered by Islamic terrorists.
6/24/07 Iraq Balad 1 0 Fundamentalists assassinate a feminist.
6/24/07 Iraq Khalis 3 3 Islamic terrorists kill three girls and injure their mother and father in a bomb attack on the family vehicle.
6/24/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 2 Religious extremists attack a police station, killing three Afghans.
6/24/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 A man and a woman are shot to death by a suspected Muslim militant.
6/23/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 42-year-old Buddhist laborer is brutally killed and then set on fire by Muslim terrorists.
6/23/07 Iraq Kufa 2 0 Muslim terrorists shoot a married couple to death.
6/23/07 Lebanon Nahr el-Bared 3 0 Three Lebanese troops are killed by a Fatah al-Islam bomb.
6/23/07 Iraq Baghdad 18 2 Sectarian Jihadis rack up eighteen dead Iraqis in various attacks.
6/23/07 Afghanistan Helmand 2 0 Two Estonian mine-sweepers are killed in a Taliban rocket strike.
6/23/07 Iraq Hillah 2 18 Two people are killed in an Islamic terrorist car bombing.
6/23/07 Pakistan Karam Kot 4 1 Four Pakistani troops are killed when terrorists bomb their vehicle.
6/23/07 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A off-duty cop is gunned down by an Islamist.
6/22/07 Pakistan Khar 1 0 Islamic extremists behead a man, then attach a note to the body.
6/22/07 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 16-year-old Buddhist girl is shot to death by radical Muslims.
6/22/07 Iraq Fallujah 5 57 A store bombing and a suicide attack on a telecom company net five dead Iraqis for freedom-fighting terrorists.
6/22/07 Pakistan Bannu 1 30 Radical Muslims attempt to attack a religious festival with small-arms fire and a grenade. One guard is killed.
6/22/07 Thailand Yala 3 10 Three young boys are shot full of holes in the name of Allah at a tea shop.
6/22/07 Algeria Bouira 2 1 Two security guards are killed by two homemade bombs.
6/22/07 India Doda 1 0 The Mujahideen abduct and kill a civilian.
6/22/07 Thailand Yala 2 5 Muslim bombers target a Buddhist-owned teashop, killing three innocents.
6/21/07 Pal. Auth. Nablus 1 0 A 32-year-old civilian is killed by Islamic gunmen.
6/21/07 Iraq Bahraz 3 15 Sunnis kill three villagers in a sustained attack on a Shia town.
6/21/07 Somalia Mogadishu 5 10 An Islamic militant tosses a grenade into a market, killling five people on the spot.
6/21/07 Afghanistan Nangarhar 3 1 Three Afghan cops are gunned down in a Taliban attack.
6/21/07 Pakistan Khapianga 3 0 A roadside blast kills three farmers.
6/21/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 54-year-old Buddhist is shot to death by Muslim radicals.
6/21/07 Iraq Soliman Bek 15 66 Suicidal Sunnis drive a truck full of explosives into a building, murdering at least fifteen people.
6/21/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim shoot a 29-year-old, then attempt to behead him. The man bleeds to death.
6/20/07 India Baramulla 1 2 A Harkat-ul-Mujahideen militant kills a homeowner with a grenade. The man's daughter and son are injured.
6/20/07 Afghanistan Khost 3 4 Talibanis enter a mosque and shoot three Afghan civilians to death.
6/20/07 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim gunmen shoot an off-duty Buddhist policeman to death in front of his wife.
6/20/07 Iraq Baghdad 34 9 Sectarian Jihadis rack up thirty-four more dead Iraqis in various attacks.
6/20/07 Iraq Mosul 5 8 Two children and three women are killed in a mortar attack by Islamic terrorists.
6/20/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 0 Three Canadian peacekeepers are killed in a roadside attack by Islamic extremists.
6/20/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Islamic militias fire RPGs into a government building, killing at least two people.
6/20/07 Afghanistan Zabul 2 1 Religious extremists fire on a UN relief convoy, killing two Afghans.
6/19/07 Afghanistan Uruzgan 14 110 Islamic militants attack a village, murdering ten civilians and four Afghan police.
6/19/07 Iraq Baghdad 23 19 Jihadis kill two dozen Iraqis in various shooting and mortar attacks.
6/19/07 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Thai Muslims kill three occupants of a vehicle with a roadside bomb.
6/19/07 Lebanon Nahr al-Bared 2 0 Fatah al-Islam radicals kill two more Lebanese troops.
6/19/07 Iraq Tal Afar 2 0 A woman and a child are killed in a mortar attack by Sunni radicals.
6/19/07 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A female college student is shot to death by Islamic fundamentalists.
6/19/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 Islamists shoot a 27-year-old student to death in a drive-by attack.
6/19/07 Iraq Baghdad 87 224 Sunnis bomb an area outside a Shia mosque, sending eighty-seven souls to Allah and injuring over two-hundred others.
6/18/07 Iraq Baghdad 9 25 Islamic terrorists bomb a gas station, killing nine patrons.
6/18/07 Lebanon Narh al-Bared 3 0 Three more Lebanese soldiers are killed by Fatah al-Islam militants.
6/18/07 Thailand Yala 0 14 Muslims bomb a Buddhist-owned teashop, injuring fourteen patrons.
6/18/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 7 Islamists manage to kill two children with one bomb, hidden in a garbage pile.
6/18/07 Pal. Auth. Erez 1 3 Hamas gunmen open fire on Palestinians huddled in a tunnel, killing at least one.
6/18/07 Iraq Baghdad 33 0 Thirty-three victims of sectarian violence are found in different locations.
6/18/07 Iraq Falluja 5 25 Two Jihad bombings leave at least five civilians dead.
6/18/07 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 23-year-old soldier is killed in an ambush by Muslim militants.
6/18/07 Pakistan Jundo 1 0 A man kills his daughter for marrying the 'wrong' man.
6/18/07 Somalia Bakara 1 1 A civilian is assassinated at a local market is a suspected Islamic militia attack.
6/17/07 Afghanistan Herat 2 0 The Taliban attack a remote police post, killing two officers.
6/17/07 Iraq Jizani al-Emam 17 0 Seventeen villagers are killed during an attack by the Islamic Army of Iraq.
6/17/07 Afghanistan Kabul 35 35 Three dozen Afghans are blown to Allah by Islamic bombers in an attack on a transportation hub.
6/17/07 Somalia Baidoa 1 3 A child is killed when Islamists toss a grenade into a bank.
6/17/07 Iraq Fallujah 8 16 A pregnant woman and her husband are among eight innocents killed in two attacks by Islamic terrorists.
6/17/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Three soldiers and an interpretor are murdered in a Taliban roadside attack.
6/17/07 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 The Taliban shoot a suspected narcotics dealer to death.
6/17/07 Iraq Kirkuk 3 4 Sunni bombers kill three Kurds.
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I pay close attention to Thailand as it's one of my favorite places to go in the world and I saw it on that list numerous times. In fact, not 1 week went by while I was there when a bombing did not go off in the southern area by Muslim extremists.
I believe SK justified it about a month or two ago when he spewed some bull**** about Thailand stealing Muslim land, blah blah blah.
Also, I see India on there quite a few times as well........
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Well, there is always the excuse du jour for the Islamists. There is never personal responsibility or accountability.
Kinda like libruls.
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Originally Posted by Chowboy
Do the math chump:
A shortened list of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 weeks:
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
7/3/07 Pakistan Islamabad 2 0 A Pakistani soldier and a cameraman are shot to death by student radicals at a madrassah.
7/2/07 Yemen Marib 9 8 Seven Spanish tourists and their two drivers are murdered by an al-Qaeda suicide bomber, who rams into their convoy.
7/2/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 7 0 Seven Afghan cops are blown to bits by a Taliban roadside bombing.
7/2/07 Iraq Baghdad 9 33 Sunni radicals car bomb a Shia neighborhood, sending at least nine innocents to Allah.
7/2/07 Iraq Baghdad 26 18 Sectarian terror attacks between Sunnis and Shias leave over two dozen dead.
7/2/07 Pakistan Mir Ali 1 1 al-Qaeda backed militants kill a Pakistani who resists kidnapping.
7/2/07 Afghanistan Khost 1 1 An education director is gunned down by religious extremists.
7/2/07 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim radicals murder a 47-year-old rubber tapper on his way to work.
7/2/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 28-year-old villager is shot to death by Islamists.
7/1/07 Iraq Mosul 19 0 At least nineteen bodies surface around the country of civilians kidnapped and executed by the Mujahideen.
7/1/07 Iraq Baghdad 18 12 A suicide bombing and other Jihad attacks account for fifteen dead Iraqis.
7/1/07 Iraq Ramadi 7 20 Seven Iraqi police are killed in separate suicide attacks by Fedayeen.
7/1/07 Afghanistan Helmand 1 4 A British soldier is killed by a suicide bomber.
7/1/07 Thailand Pattani 1 2 Muslim terrorists fire on a group of young students, killing a 58-year-old teacher and injuring two boys, ages 9 and 11.
7/1/07 Thailand Pattani 1 2 A woman is killed, and two other people injured when Islamic gunmen fire into a Buddhist tea shop.
7/1/07 Chechnya Grozny 2 2 A landmine attack kills two Russians.
6/30/07 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamic militants murder a 53-year-old man.
6/30/07 Iraq Baghdad 16 8 Sixteen Iraqis are murdered in various sectarian attacks.
6/30/07 Iraq Ferris 40 0 Children are beheaded as al-Qaeda massacres an entire village of Iraqis.
6/30/07 Iraq Muqdadiyah 25 22 A suicidal Sunni sends over two-dozen innocent people to the grave with a market blast.
6/30/07 Iraq Fallujah 4 0 Four people are beheaded by Islamic terrorists.
6/30/07 Iraq Asiriya 2 12 Two children are killed, and a dozen more injured, when Jihadis mortar a soccer field.
6/30/07 India Pulwama 1 0 A civilian is abducted and murdered by the Mujahideen.
6/30/07 Scotland Glasgow 0 5 Hoping for mass casualites, Islamic radicals ram a car filled with gas canisters into the main entrance of an airport.
6/30/07 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 Islamic militias assassinate a government official.
6/30/07 Chechnya Vedeno 1 2 Holy Warriors ambush a security patrol, killing one member.
6/29/07 Afghanistan Khost 1 0 Religious extremists kidnap and behead a language interpreter.
6/29/07 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three women are murdered by Islamic gunmen.
6/29/07 Iraq Mishada 8 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders eight Iraqis.
6/29/07 Pakistan FATA Region 1 0 An Afghan civilian is kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic militants.
6/29/07 Iraq Baghdad 15 11 At least three women are among fifteen people shot to death or blown up by Muslim terrorists.
6/29/07 Iraq Kut 11 1 A university professor is shot several time in the head and neck. Ten others are also murdered by Muslim terrorists.
6/29/07 Pakistan Tirah 1 0 Laskhar-i-Islam militants stone a man to death.
6/29/07 Pakistan Larkana 2 0 A man shoots his wife and sister-in-law to death in an 'honor killing.'
6/28/07 Afghanistan Paktika 1 8 An 18-year-old Afghan civilian is killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
6/28/07 Afghanistan Kabul 3 8 Two American civilians and an Afghan woman are killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
6/28/07 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two teenagers are shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
6/28/07 Iraq Baghdad 30 34 Several mortar attacks and shootings leave thirty Iraqis dead at the hands of Islamic terrorists.
6/28/07 Iraq Baghdad 25 50 Sunni radicals blow twenty-five innocent people to Allah at a bus stop.
6/28/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 Islamic terrorists target a security convoy along a busy road, killing two members.
6/28/07 Thailand Songkhla 1 0 A 51-year-old village guard is shot to death by Jihadis as he is returning home.
6/28/07 India Pulwama 1 16 Lashkar-e-Toiba militants attack a security patrol, killing one member.
6/28/07 India Ramban 1 0 A civilian is abducted and beheaded by the Religion of Peace.
6/27/07 Somalia Bardhere 1 1 The driver of a vehicle is killed in a bombing attack by Muslim militants.
6/27/07 Iraq Baghdad 10 24 Islamic terrorists set off two car bombs, killing ten people.
6/27/07 Iraq Samarrah 11 6 Eleven Iraqis are killed in at least two separate Jihad attack, here and in Kirukuk.
6/27/07 Iraq Al Khalis 19 28 Islamic terrorists barrage a residential area with mortars, killing at least nineteen innocents.
6/27/07 Thailand Yala 3 17 Muslims kill three people at a market, by hiding a bomb in a basket.
6/27/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 2 Two civilians are killed when Muslim terrorists toss a grenaded into a market.
6/27/07 Iraq Baghdad 21 0 Twenty-one victims of sectarian violence between Sunni and Shia are found bound and executed.
6/27/07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christians are murdered by Sunni radicals.
6/27/07 Somalia El-Berde 2 0 Two humanitarian workers, one a doctor, are brutally gunned down.
6/26/07 Iraq Basra 1 0 A religious cleric is gunned down by Muslim rivals.
6/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu 6 9 Five cleaning women are among six killed by an Islamic bomb.
6/26/07 Somalia Mogadishu 1 3 Islamists detonate a roadside bomb, killing one bystander.
6/26/07 Thailand Pattani 1 4 A Muslim radical calmly fires into a Buddhist tea shop, killing at least one patron.
6/26/07 India Pulwama 1 0 Militant Islamists abduct a constable from his home and behead him.
6/26/07 Bangladesh Nilphamari 0 10 Ten Christian converts from Islam are savagely beaten by a Muslim mob.
6/25/07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two middle-aged men are gunned down in separate attacks by Muslim radicals.
6/25/07 India Doda 2 14 The Mujahideen toss a grenade into a bus stand, killing two people.
6/25/07 Iraq Baghdad 12 21 A Fedayeen bomber blasts a dozen people at a peace and reconciliation conference to death.
6/25/07 Iraq Baiji 27 62 Suicide bombers ram an explosives-laden truck into a gate, killing over two dozen innocents in the blast.
6/25/07 Iraq Mosul 3 42 Three civilians are killed when Islamic terrorists bomb a residential area.
6/25/07 Iraq Baghdad 16 3 Jihadis rack up sixteen dead Iraqis in various attacks.
6/25/07 Lebanon Nahr al-Bared 2 0 A soldier and a civilian are killed by a Fatah al-Islam sniper.
6/25/07 Somalia Hurwa 2 2 A woman and a man are killed when Islamic militias slam a rocket into their house.
6/24/07 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two elderly Buddhist brothers are murdered by radical Muslims, who then burn their bodies.
6/24/07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two Thai rangers are shot by Islamic terrorists while riding motorcycles.
6/24/07 Lebanon Dardara 6 2 Militant Islamists kill six UN Peacekeepers with a powerful suicide bomb.
6/24/07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two women, including a female journalist, are gunned down by Muslim radicals.
6/24/07 Iraq Baghdad 14 6 The head of a childrens hospital is among fourteen people murdered by Islamic terrorists.
6/24/07 Iraq Balad 1 0 Fundamentalists assassinate a feminist.
6/24/07 Iraq Khalis 3 3 Islamic terrorists kill three girls and injure their mother and father in a bomb attack on the family vehicle.
6/24/07 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 2 Religious extremists attack a police station, killing three Afghans.
6/24/07 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 A man and a woman are shot to death by a suspected Muslim militant.
6/23/07 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 42-year-old Buddhist laborer is brutally killed and then set on fire by Muslim terrorists.
6/23/07 Iraq Kufa 2 0 Muslim terrorists shoot a married couple to death.
6/23/07 Lebanon Nahr el-Bared 3 0 Three Lebanese troops are killed by a Fatah al-Islam bomb.
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Strong ownage.
Not to mention the irony of Matt's country's leader, Mr Putin, who does the odd bit of assassination as well as leading /dictating the country.
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No, you're wrong yet again; my country's leader's name is Janez Drnovsek and he's the guy who was actively involved in trying to solve the Darfur crisis. I'm not Russian, don't forget it.
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No, you're wrong yet again; my country's leader's name is Janez Drnovsek and he's the guy who was actively involved in trying to solve the Darfur crisis. I'm not Russian, don't forget it.
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You said you were Russian, so maybe you are confused?
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No, I never did. I said I was Slovenian. Slavic yes, lived in Russia yes, Russian no.
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I believe SK justified it about a month or two ago when he spewed some bull**** about Thailand stealing Muslim land, blah blah blah.
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How is it BS?
Thailand did take there land.
Did you know that the muslims in Thailands south are not actually Thai?
They are a completly different race and even have different food, art, sculptures, clothes, history and even speak a different language from the Thai.
It started pretty much during the early 1900's where the buddist kingdom invaded the kindom of Patani and destroyed the islamic kingdom and annexed it into Thailand.
The main problem with the latest rounds of violence 70's onwards began when Thailand started to send budist monks into South Thailand where the muslims live and allowed them to build temples. Not only that but started to push the Thai language on to the natives and tried to wipe out there native langauge.
The locals rebelled with insurgency. Originally the conflict began as a secular movement wanting independance and a return to the Pattani kingdoms but sooner during the later years turned more towards islamic style insurgency.
They vowed to kill any budist which comes on to there land and also kill anybody that tries to push the occupiers Thai langauge on to the Malay.
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Also, I see India on there quite a few times as well........
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India has multiple groups that are attacking it. It has multiple muslim groups from Muslim dominent Kashmir who don't want to be a part of India. Then they also have Seik seperatists who attacks civillain and government targets on a regular basis and they even have a few christian groups who have launched multiple attacks against the government, Civillians, military etc...
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How is it BS?
Thailand did take there land.
Did you know that the muslims in Thailands south are not actually Thai?
They are a completly different race and even have different food, art, sculptures, clothes, history and even speak a different language from the Thai.
It started pretty much during the early 1900's where the buddist kingdom invaded the kindom of Patani and destroyed the islamic kingdom and annexed it into Thailand.
The main problem with the latest rounds of violence 70's onwards began when Thailand started to send budist monks into South Thailand where the muslims live and allowed them to build temples. Not only that but started to push the Thai language on to the natives and tried to wipe out there native langauge.
The locals rebelled with insurgency. Originally the conflict began as a secular movement wanting independance and a return to the Pattani kingdoms but sooner during the later years turned more towards islamic style insurgency.
They vowed to kill any budist which comes on to there land and also kill anybody that tries to push the occupiers Thai langauge on to the Malay.
India has multiple groups that are attacking it. It has multiple muslim groups from Muslim dominent Kashmir who don't want to be a part of India. Then they also have Seik seperatists who attacks civillain and government targets on a regular basis and they even have a few christian groups who have launched multiple attacks against the government, Civillians, military etc...
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Blah, Blah, Blah. Land here, Jews there, infidels everywhere. Always an excuse. Never an effort to live in peace.
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How is it BS?
Thailand did take there land.
It started pretty much during the early 1900's where the buddist kingdom invaded the kindom of Patani and destroyed the islamic kingdom and annexed it into Thailand.
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I guess with that logic we should give back most or Europe and the western portion of Russia back to the Nazi's, most of China and other parts of Asia back to Imperial Japan, most of central and eastern Russia back to China, how far back would you like to redraw boarders? that has to be the stupidest logic I have ever heard.. if you truly believe what you are saying, did you give everything you have to those who where there before your gene pool showed up? then did you leave? and to where? and who was there before them? truly amazing in the lack of logical thought.. you could make that same argument for Neanderthals owning pretty much everything in the N. Hemisphere.. or how about what ever the hell came before them?
Stupidity... there are things called recognized INTERNATIONAL BORDERS, and there are these silly little things called nations within those borders, and those nations have people who actually live within them.. it is obvious the borders and those people mean nothing to you, but the rest of the planet seems to get along anyways..
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I guess with that logic we should give back most or Europe and the western portion of Russia back to the Nazi's, most of China and other parts of Asia back to Imperial Japan, most of central and eastern Russia back to China, how far back would you like to redraw boarders? that has to be the stupidest logic I have ever heard.. if you truly believe what you are saying, did you give everything you have to those who where there before your gene pool showed up? then did you leave? and to where? and who was there before them? truly amazing in the lack of logical thought.. you could make that same argument for Neanderthals owning pretty much everything in the N. Hemisphere.. or how about what ever the hell came before them?
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Actually the main difference is there are 2 isolated groups there. In the south there are the Malay and in other areas outside the south of Thailand there are Thai.
This really is actually not that big of a deal as most Thai actually live outside South Thailand. "giving" back doesn't really mean much in this sense as all it would mean is that the central goverment in Thailand would no longer control the country or be able to enfore and install goverment members within the region. This would give 100% control to the locals without zero influence to Thailand.
The Malay don't want the Thai to run or control any of there areas. Making a split would mean the following :
- Remove 100% of Thai forces/security forces from South Thailand.
- Remove Thai goverment control/influence over the region.
- Re-install Malay as the primary language.
- Malay recognise themselves as a unique group rather then being bundled up with the Thai race.
- Country is recognised as an independant entity.
In fact if it was created people wouldn't even need to leave as there is clearly a strongly defined racial split between south thailand and other thailand.
And speaking of a "lack of logical thought" and "stupidest logic you have ever heard". How about you answer this thread :
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post51646251
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Blah, Blah, Blah. Land here, Jews there, infidels everywhere. Always an excuse. Never an effort to live in peace.
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Did i mention jews?
Why did you even bring it up?
Where is the Pied Piper when you need him so he can play his flute and take rats like you back to the SEA ( A.K.A misc ).
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Did i mention jews?
Why did you even bring it up?
Where is the Pied Piper when you need him so he can play his flute and take rats like you back to the SEA ( A.K.A misc ).
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It's all part and parcel of the same package. You know it, and I know it.
Like I said, it is the excuse du jour.
However, I am glad you are young enough to remember your nursery rhymes...
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How is it BS?
Thailand did take there land.
Did you know that the muslims in Thailands south are not actually Thai?
They are a completly different race and even have different food, art, sculptures, clothes, history and even speak a different language from the Thai.
It started pretty much during the early 1900's where the buddist kingdom invaded the kindom of Patani and destroyed the islamic kingdom and annexed it into Thailand.
The main problem with the latest rounds of violence 70's onwards began when Thailand started to send budist monks into South Thailand where the muslims live and allowed them to build temples. Not only that but started to push the Thai language on to the natives and tried to wipe out there native langauge.
The locals rebelled with insurgency. Originally the conflict began as a secular movement wanting independance and a return to the Pattani kingdoms but sooner during the later years turned more towards islamic style insurgency.
They vowed to kill any budist which comes on to there land and also kill anybody that tries to push the occupiers Thai langauge on to the Malay.
India has multiple groups that are attacking it. It has multiple muslim groups from Muslim dominent Kashmir who don't want to be a part of India. Then they also have Seik seperatists who attacks civillain and government targets on a regular basis and they even have a few christian groups who have launched multiple attacks against the government, Civillians, military etc...
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So in other words, the excuse of 'imperialistic west' is really false as a way to condone terrorist actions, when in fact muslims everywhere commit terrorism because in stead of speaking out like normal people, they have hissy fits and blow themselves up when monks build temples (OH NOES!??!!)
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It's all part and parcel of the same package. You know it, and I know it.
Like I said, it is the excuse du jour.
However, I am glad you are young enough to remember your nursery rhymes...
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I think this picture describes your participation in this thread well :
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../piedpiper.jpg
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Not only good with nursery rhymes, cartoons too.
What's next?
Potty humor?
Genitalia jokes?
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The problem with britain is this...people like photomasterx and freedom fighter live here.
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