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Old 06-22-2007, 11:43 AM   #1
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Raw Eggs This is Why they are safe

So many threads are started on this. Lets explain why they are safe.

1. These are how many chances you have to getting salmonella.

300 000 000(americans) x 365(each everybody eats 1 egg a day) =

109.5 Billion egggs. 109.5 billion eggs / 40 000(report salmonella cases per year) = 2.7 million.

SO this means you have about 1 chance out of 2.7 million eggs to get a salmonella eggs. First of all you wont get to that number. Second, if your between the ages of 8 to approximately 65, and in regular health. You have NO chances.

2. Do research, most source will agree to say, it is do to COOKED eggs not eaten right away. Eggs that have been left at room temperated for hours and is then eaten.

3. Your hydrocloric acid in your stomach, if it can burn your finger, it can surely destroy bacteria.

4. "My best gains have been on eating 36 eggs a day, so get crakin'!" -The Iron Guru, Ginve Gironda
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Old 06-22-2007, 11:49 AM   #2
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Statistics are all well and good... but I know someone - a bodybuilder - who's come down with Salmonella from eating raw eggs. Puts me off of ever trying it!
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Statistics are all well and good... but I know someone - a bodybuilder - who's come down with Salmonella from eating raw eggs. Puts me off of ever trying it!
I agree with you. You saw a bad experience up close. I probably wouldnt either. Even if i saw my friend win the lottery, guess what, it would not motivated me to by tickets.
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"Scientists estimate that, on average across the U.S., only 1 of every 20,000 eggs might contain the bacteria. So, the likelihood that an egg might contain Se is extremely small - 0.005% (five one-thousandths of one percent). At this rate, if you're an average consumer, you might encounter a contaminated egg once every 84 years."

From this site: http://www.aeb.org/LearnMore/EggSafety.htm

Keep in mind, it's from the American Egg Board. But still...
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I have done it 20+ years and never been sick Vince Gironda(who was way ahead of his time) was a big beliver in them for hormone production.
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I have done it 20+ years and never been sick Vince Gironda(who was way ahead of his time) was a big beliver in them for hormone production.
Do you follow Vince girondas diets and workouts plans?
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Do you follow Vince girondas diets and workouts plans?
Not to a t but I belive in the high protien, higher fat low ,carb diet, I prefer more flax,olive oil vs as much saturated fat, and I used his 'weight gainer' with success it consisted of heavy cream,raw eggs,and protien powder, I also used alot of beverly internatinoal beef liver (who was sponsering me)
and Gironda was a big beliver in Liver tabs.
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Heavy cream has been reported to increase protein uptake as well. I need to go back on that stuff. It was great since I can't drink milk.
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Heavy cream has been reported to increase protein uptake as well. I need to go back on that stuff. It was great since I can't drink milk.
I agree I don't do milk either!
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I agree I don't do milk either!
I think protein taste a lot better in cream.
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3. Your hydrocloric acid in your stomach, if it can burn your finger, it can surely destroy bacteria.
WRONG. It kills MOST bacteria, but some can survive and cause illness. Ever heard of E Coli? What about Cholera? Oh and Salmonalla too.
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why not just cook em?
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why not just cook em?
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Heavy cream has been reported to increase protein uptake as well. I need to go back on that stuff. It was great since I can't drink milk.
Never herd that. Got a link?
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I can only imagine he is referring to the fact that increased intake of sat fat is thought by some to increase levels of test (not much evidence), which would then lead to increased protein uptake.
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the eggs i buy are from chickens vaccinated against salmonella

too bad i don't like em raw haha
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too bad i don't like em raw haha
too bad we can't get that vaccine...
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WRONG. It kills MOST bacteria, but some can survive and cause illness. Ever heard of E Coli? What about Cholera? Oh and Salmonalla too.
lol. and now we are back to where we started before this thread.
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I can only imagine he is referring to the fact that increased intake of sat fat is thought by some to increase levels of test (not much evidence), which would then lead to increased protein uptake.
No. I'll dig some up if I have time.
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egg whites are incredibly expensive. check them out, THEN check out the shipping costs.

you pay about 20 cents per egg white. i got my eggs at 7 cents an egg.

that is a big difference if you ask me.
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egg whites are incredibly expensive. check them out, THEN check out the shipping costs.

you pay about 20 cents per egg white. i got my eggs at 7 cents an egg.

that is a big difference if you ask me.
Eggs are perfect, eggs white is ****. When you seperate yolk from white you dont have the same "perfection"
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Eggs are perfect, eggs white is ****. When you seperate yolk from white you dont have the same "perfection"
you call it perfection, I call it blasphemy. everyone: eat yer ****in eggs and eat 'em whole baby.

the cost of egg whites is obscene. no thanks.
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I can only imagine he is referring to the fact that increased intake of sat fat is thought by some to increase levels of test (not much evidence), which would then lead to increased protein uptake.
there are a lot of nutritional factors that would/could make WHOLE eggs "anabolic"...
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there are a lot of nutritional factors that would/could make WHOLE eggs "anabolic"...
he was talking about the heavy cream use
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he was talking about the heavy cream use
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you call it perfection, I call it blasphemy. everyone: eat yer ****in eggs and eat 'em whole baby.

the cost of egg whites is obscene. no thanks.
I believe he was saying that egg whites "are" ****...as opposed to "the" ****.

But that is neither here nor there. Whole eggs ftw.

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Isn't the selma on the the surface of the egg shell, as opposed to the inside of the egg? If so, eggs could further be washed if one was fearful of selma...I may be mistaken altogether, though.

Are there any side effects to consuming whole eggs [besides bacterial infection]?

Be careful with raw egg whites with no yolks: http://www.worthington-biochem.com/AV/default.html
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I believe he was saying that egg whites "are" ****...as opposed to "the" ****.
LOL you're right. I guess I added "the" in my mind as I was reading that.

You've gotta give me a break though, I was fasting last night for a blood test

Speaking of that I'm off to the doctor's office.

Definitely whole eggs FTW.
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The reason for cooking eggs is more for increasing protein absorption rather than killing salmonella. You lose half of the protein by eating the egg raw.
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Well, my fear of salmonella has slightly declined...but what about the protein content differences between cooked and raw?
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