Thermogenesis by Nature's Lab "Red Rockets"

[skuZZitude]

I used to use these with great success and I ordered somemore and they came today. I have some questions about the ingredients though. Each pill contains:


Ephedra (8% Ephedrine) .......................... 375 MG
Kola-Nut (Standardized to 75% caffeine) .... 375 MG
White Willow Bark .................................... 50 MG
Chrominum Picolinate .............................. 400 MCG

The two things I'm wondering about is the White Willow Bark and the Chrominum Picolinate. First off, how much does 50mg of white willow bark equal in normal aspirin? And what the heck is Chrominum Picolinate and why do they put it in the stack? It says it's patented undernearth on the label. Curious....

[Scotty.]

I don't really know the answers to your questions, but I have heard taking things with ephdra in them aren't good. Ephedra contains a bunch of ephedrine alkaloids which you don't want, and also, most companies really don't know how much of ephedrine actually ends up in the pills - I saw a quote somewhere that it can range anywhere from 0%-150% of what is stated on the label.

I am just repeating what I read in a few articles, not from an actual knowledge base. Google ephedra vs. ephedrine or something to that effect.

[skuZZitude]

Originally Posted by Scotty.

I don't really know the answers to your questions, but I have heard taking things with ephdra in them aren't good. Ephedra contains a bunch of ephedrine alkaloids which you don't want, and also, most companies really don't know how much of ephedrine actually ends up in the pills - I saw a quote somewhere that it can range anywhere from 0%-150% of what is stated on the label.

I am just repeating what I read in a few articles, not from an actual knowledge base. Google ephedra vs. ephedrine or something to that effect.

Thanks man. I read that same thread a while ago too and just read it now. I think what you are talking about is that ephedra itself can be anywhere from 0-150%, however, the stuff put in these pills is all standardized to 8% (it says that on the package). All ephedra is not simply 8%, that's not what I meant at all. If it just said "375mg ephedra" then it wouldd be scary becauuse like you said, who knows what 375mg of epehdra is? Red rockets have been around for 10 years or so now and I'm pretty confident the manufacturer is reputable in making them. The guy I bought them from sells thousands of bottles each month, lots of people taking them apparently.

I found some more info on Chrominum Pilcolinate by the way, a double blind study that was done in 1998:

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/88456.htm

the results are impressive. If it's true I wonder why more medications don't use it? Side effects?

[DJohnson]

I've taken similar before. It's fairly effective. Most of the results are from the ephedrine+caffeine's effect of appetite suppression. It also gives a lot of energy which is good with reduced calories. Although with calories and activity being the same, a person taking ephedrine+caffeine versus someone who isn't will be losing on average 0.5lb of fat a month more. So its definitely not necessary.

The aspirin doesn't effect fat loss to any noticible degree and chrominum pilcolinate can supposively improve insulin sensitivity in the long term but still not proven to any measurable degree. The chrominum pilcolinate is just added to make the formula different from the dozens of other ephedra products out there. I dunno whats up with that study you linked because like everything theres many studies out there that had no results.

[danipete]

Where did you find these??? I've tried searching for them and apparently they aren't being made anymore.

Originally Posted by skuZZitude

I used to use these with great success and I ordered somemore and they came today. I have some questions about the ingredients though. Each pill contains:


Ephedra (8% Ephedrine) .......................... 375 MG
Kola-Nut (Standardized to 75% caffeine) .... 375 MG
White Willow Bark .................................... 50 MG
Chrominum Picolinate .............................. 400 MCG

The two things I'm wondering about is the White Willow Bark and the Chrominum Picolinate. First off, how much does 50mg of white willow bark equal in normal aspirin? And what the heck is Chrominum Picolinate and why do they put it in the stack? It says it's patented undernearth on the label. Curious....

[lara1983]

In which shop is thermogenesis by Nature`s Lab available?

Thank you.