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Need Help with a Sugar Addiction Poor Nutrition (Long Post)
Hey guys, I've had a bit of a health food revelation. I got a hold of some nutritional information videos and it really just hit home that everything I eat is absolutely garbage. My wife has always been a health food nut and I've always kinda made fun of her for it. But as I?m getting older here, I'm just realizing that I'm living the completely wrong way.
I was listening to one of these health food nuts talk about what we should be eating and basic tips and she mentioned the grocery store, and she said the most beneficial foods that we can eat are located around the edges of the store, especially the produce, vegetables, and the fresh meats and breads. She said that everything in the middle is pretty much the garbage that is processed, synthetic, and has who knows how many chemicals added to it.
It occurred to me that I eat NOTHING from the edge of the grocery store. Literally everything I ate that week (at the point I watched the video) has been from the middle of the store. I ate no fresh meat, no fruit, and no fresh vegetables. Even worse yet is the fact that I'd say at least 40% of the foods that I eat would be considered sugary snack foods (cookies, cake, ice cream, Ho Ho's, Tasty Cakes, lots of candy) The things I would consider a meal are things like frozen pizza, frozen TV dinners, eating out at restaurants and lots of bowls of cereal. Often times when I get meals (Tv dinner or eating out) I eat very little of the vegetables. Most of the liquids I consume are soda and Kool Aid.
So not to concentrate on how bad my eating habits are.
My concern/problem is STARTING to eat Healthy, I'm finding it virtually impossible. All these healthy things taste like crap. I can't stand the taste of most vegetables, and fruit does very little for me. It's funny because I hear my wife say that something like a peach is 'Sweet' and I just laugh. I feel like a veteran crack head sugar freak) "You think that's sweet, Try bonging 30 pixie stix!!!"
So the reason for my post here today is to get some advice/information for helping a sugar freak in rehab.
Here is some vital information about me
Name: Patrick
Age: Just turned 28
Weight: 165-170 lbs
Height: 6'-3"
Build: Tall and Skinny
Occupation: Desk job, with some walking around
School part time: Lots of time spent in the car also
Injuries: Just fully recovered from a torn Labrum (sp?) in my left shoulder, doctor has giving me the okay to resume lifting weights
Hobbies: Aikido (I had to take off for the injury but will start back up twice a week)
Important to note: I spend lots of time at my desk and feel overwhelming urges to snack
Important to note: I am an absolutely awful cook, I never cook, I nuke stuff in the microwave and can make oatmeal on the stove
Here is my primitive plan. I'm going to view this as a full blown addiction. I?m a sugar addict, I need to start up a SA group or something, but here is what I was thinking
1) Setting a date (Like a quit date, used by smokers)
2) Fasting for one complete day (consume nothing but water)
3) Eat nothing but Tuna Fish, Chicken, and Vegetables for 3 days
(My hope is that this acts like a detox process, to get all the sugar out of my body)
4) Work on Learning to eat better.
In addition, I learned a little bit about vitamins, and have purchased some natural non-synthetic Multivitamins (Rainbow light for men) And I've taken creatine supplement in the past and plan on taking that and fish oil supplements.
Any advice/suggestions?
Sorry for the long winded post
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Hey man I had the same problem as you. I love sweets. I ate nothing but fast food and pizzas. Drank way to much alcohol.
I took a different approach though. I slowly took myself off . So one week I cut out all sodas, then next all hard candies, etc. Taking away one each week and finding stuff to replace them with.
I don't really like that much food. In fact, eating is a chore to me. I don't enjoy it. It's something necessary to sustain life. Much like sleep (which I also hate). Only food I really enjoy is fresh BBQ.
Anyway, that's what I did. Good luck to you.
Also don't be afraid to fall off the wagon every now and then. It happens, accept it. Jump back on. Read about nutrition also, it keeps you focused.
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05-24-2007, 03:06 PM
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First off, congrats for wanting to change an unhealthy life style, most people say they're going to and never take the steps to do it. There's a ton of stuff to learn about nutrition, no matter how much you know, there's always something new to learn. Hopefully people that respond to this will give you some basics to get you started and not overwhelm you right off the bat.
To start, healthy and nutrient rich food are probably gonna taste like crap to you. I know for me I hated the way things tasted at first, it's just an adjustment period, things will start to taste way better and you'll even get to the point where the foods you're eating now will taste like crap.
Here's a basic food list to get you started...
Fruits, veggies, whole wheat bread, chicken breast, turkey breast, tuna, salmon, steak, whole oats (the real stuff, not prepackaged with tons of sugar), natural peanut butter (not skippy or jif) nuts, cottage cheese, fat free yogurt, sugar free jello, potatos, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, beans, eggs.
A list of foods to avoid...
Foods with tons of refined and processed sugar, trans fats, fast food, fried foods, pretty much all you have to do is use your common sense and you'll be fine with knowing what you shouldn't eat.
A huge misconception that people have when they first start out is that fat is bad for you. This isn't true at all. Trans fat are never good for you, saturated fat is good for you in small amounts. The good stuff you're going to want to consume everyday is polyunsatured and monounsaturated fats, they are basically the same thing, the only difference really is the way they are made molecularly.
Foods that contain these are...
avocado, nuts, natural peanut butter, all fish, fish/flaxseed oil pills, extra virgin olive oil.
With that you should be able to scrap a list together of some healthy alternatives to what you're eating right now, plus it seems like your wife could help you out a bit. With that said, the last bit of advice I would give you is to spread your meals out every 3 hours so you're eating 5-7 meals a day. This way you're always feeding your body and giving it the nutrients it needs to fuel yourself thoughout the day. It'll keep you from over eating too.
You should try to get your macros (macros is short for macronutrients, basically its percent of calories from protein, carbs, fats.) to a 40/40/20 split. So 40% of your calories from protein, 40% from carbs and 20% from fat.
That should be enough to get you started in the right direction, sorry if it's a bit overwhelming. Don't be afraid to ask people for help around here, there are a lot of people with a lot of knowledge who can be very helpful. Good luck.
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05-24-2007, 03:17 PM
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Thats really good that your trying to improve your diet. I would start a little at a time then after you start feeling awesome from the lifetsyle changes you will just start making more and more better choices. I would first start with drinking enough water and taking your supplements. I also would write down the foods that are good for you that you do like down and start by adding those in. Then try things that you thought you wouldnt like, you may just like them. I would make sure to add veggies that you can agree to and work from there. Theres lots of ways to make them taste better. Trade all that crap food in for whole foods. You will feel great!
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05-24-2007, 03:59 PM
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You make me laugh! "30 pixie stix" - you sound like my dh. He's gotten better, gradually but, I have to admit, it's mostly because of me nagging/lecturing not so much because he wanted to. And because, to a certain extent, unless he wants to go shopping, there's a lot of crap I just wont buy. But I jokingly tell people he's not allowed in the grocery store unsupervised. I also blame my mother in law for his rotten diet (and many other things), LOL!
You're only 28 - there's hope for you. Rest assured, though, your grace period is coming to an end. Before you know it, you turn 30...then 40, and 50, and the health problems you start seeing in your slightly older friends and co-workers don't seems so distant. Reality Check!!!
If you're tall and skinny, like my dh, all the junk is probably just sending your metabolism into overdrive! He desperately tries to "bulk" and when he eats clean he does. But he doesn't hold out for very long, goes back to the junk, and ends up right back where he started.
Your plan seems extreme and punitive to me. But it's probably a personality issue - if you think that's what you need to get your diet turned around, try it. But another approach might be to just decide cold turkey to eat clean for a week or so. Plan ahead a "cheat day" once a week or every ten days or so. You'll enjoy that cheat day, going hog wild on anything and everything you want to eat, for a while. After a couple times, though, the novelty of it will wear off. You'll realize how much better you feel eating well and how rough that cheat day really is on your body and you wont really want it anymore. Most people that do Body for Life or any program that allows a "cheat day" usually turn that into a "cheat meal" before too long because it's just not that exciting and not worth it after a while.
I also taught myself to eat broccolli. When I was on Weight Watchers, several years ago, I used to give myself a point every time I ate it! It's not my favorite thing but I've learned to appreciate foods that help me reach my goals and I've found the things I really do like that do that as well. There are some foods that you do have to make a concerted effort to learn to like (broccoli, cottage cheese, etc) but it's worth it.
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05-24-2007, 04:05 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys!
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Originally Posted by jcamp19
I took a different approach though. I slowly took myself off . So one week I cut out all sodas, then next all hard candies, etc. Taking away one each week and finding stuff to replace them with.
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I would start a little at a time then after you start feeling awesome from the lifetsyle changes you will just start making more and more better choices.
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I really thought about that, and it just "Feels" like I've tried that a million times before.
What would happen is I would deciede to eat better and tell myself, I won't eat item X... So I would avoid item X, but I would just replace it with some other sugar laden item, and eventually I would just forget i'm not eating Item X.
I keep hearing about "quit dates" from people I work with talking about quitting smoking, and it just seemed to fit. The timing is perfect, becuase of my inquiry, i can now go back to the gym and take aikido again. Also School is out for the summer. So it's kinda like Everything changed! Why not throw my diet in also.
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To start, healthy and nutrient rich food are probably gonna taste like crap to you. I know for me I hated the way things tasted at first, it's just an adjustment period, things will start to taste way better and you'll even get to the point where the foods you're eating now will taste like crap.
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Yup, this is just the hardest thing for me to accept. How do I go from hating these foods to liking them. I get so jelous of my wife becuase she eats vegetables as a snack, she really really likes em, and I just look at her like WTF is wrong with you.
She is the same way at the gym, She loves it, she would go everyday if she could. She says she feels energized and wonderful after a work out, and all I feel is drop dead tired and ready to crawl into bed.
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Here's a basic food list to get you started...
Fruits, veggies, whole wheat bread, chicken breast, turkey breast, tuna, salmon, steak, whole oats (the real stuff, not prepackaged with tons of sugar), natural peanut butter (not skippy or jif) nuts, cottage cheese, fat free yogurt, sugar free jello, potatos, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, beans, eggs.
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Very Helpful! I literally know nothing about food
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Theres lots of ways to make them taste better.
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That is one subject I need help with, Every food in Norcal's list. I have no clue how to cook it or how to eat it... Whole oats??? Wtf are whole oats and how do you eat them?
My gosh, I feel like Paris Hilton asking what Wal-Mart is.
I think I could handle the Jello, but it seems so time consuming, mixing stuff and washing dishes. lol ... i'm pathetic.
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05-24-2007, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by clovely
You make me laugh! "30 pixie stix" - you sound like my dh. He's gotten better, gradually but, I have to admit, it's mostly because of me nagging/lecturing not so much because he wanted to. And because, to a certain extent, unless he wants to go shopping, there's a lot of crap I just wont buy. But I jokingly tell people he's not allowed in the grocery store unsupervised. I also blame my mother in law for his rotten diet (and many other things), LOL!
You're only 28 - there's hope for you. Rest assured, though, your grace period is coming to an end. Before you know it, you turn 30...then 40, and 50, and the health problems you start seeing in your slightly older friends and co-workers don't seems so distant. Reality Check!!!
If you're tall and skinny, like my dh, all the junk is probably just sending your metabolism into overdrive! He desperately tries to "bulk" and when he eats clean he does. But he doesn't hold out for very long, goes back to the junk, and ends up right back where he started.
Your plan seems extreme and punitive to me. But it's probably a personality issue - if you think that's what you need to get your diet turned around, try it. But another approach might be to just decide cold turkey to eat clean for a week or so. Plan ahead a "cheat day" once a week or every ten days or so. You'll enjoy that cheat day, going hog wild on anything and everything you want to eat, for a while. After a couple times, though, the novelty of it will wear off. You'll realize how much better you feel eating well and how rough that cheat day really is on your body and you wont really want it anymore. Most people that do Body for Life or any program that allows a "cheat day" usually turn that into a "cheat meal" before too long because it's just not that exciting and not worth it after a while.
I also taught myself to eat broccolli. When I was on Weight Watchers, several years ago, I used to give myself a point every time I ate it! It's not my favorite thing but I've learned to appreciate foods that help me reach my goals and I've found the things I really do like that do that as well. There are some foods that you do have to make a concerted effort to learn to like (broccoli, cottage cheese, etc) but it's worth it.
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Yea! that's me in a nut shell, I can NEVER gain weight, Creatine was the only thing that even worked a little for me.
And I'm telling you right now, I don't think I will EVER eat Cottage Cheese, I don't care how good it is, that stuff is so nasty looking, I gag everytime I see it.
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05-24-2007, 04:18 PM
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As for the working out bit, when you just start to work out for the first time, you're going to be sore to the point where you don't want to move. I just had to go through that period again because I was sick, it's not fun at all but by the 2nd or 3rd week you won't wake up feeling sore you'll wake up feeling like a million bucks, literally. You'll find that you have a ton more energy and that you kinda even feel light on your feet, it's a great feeling.
As for cooking the food, most stuff will give you directions on how to fix it. Here are the 3 types of oats I eat...
Oats gain part of their distinctive flavor from the roasting process that they undergo after being harvested and cleaned. Although oats are then hulled, this process does not strip away their bran and their germ allowing them to retain a concentrated source of their fiber and nutrients. Different types of processing are then used to produce the various types of oat products, which are generally used to make breakfast cereals, baked goods and stuffings:
* Oat groats: unflattened kernels that are good for using as a breakfast cereal or for stuffing
* Steel-cut oats: featuring a dense and chewy texture, they are produced by running the grain through steel blades that thinly slices them.
* Old-fashioned oats: have a flatter shape that is the result of their being steamed and then rolled.
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I'm too lazy to read this entire thread, but i did a search and didn't see it mentioned. Apparently both glutamine and chromium help to curb sugar cravings. If you can't do it naturally, glutamine is a cheap way to go and I believe it helps with recovery aswell (someone correct me if i'm wrong). At GNC it's like $10 for 500 grams or something, and that's overpriced, so lets say ~ $5-7 for some?
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05-24-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 4jacks
I was listening to one of these health food nuts talk about what we should be eating and basic tips and she mentioned the grocery store, and she said the most beneficial foods that we can eat are located around the edges of the store, especially the produce, vegetables, and the fresh meats and breads. She said that everything in the middle is pretty much the garbage that is processed, synthetic, and has who knows how many chemicals added to it.
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First of all this is idiotic. Canned tuna, canned salt free vegetables and fruits, natural peanut butter, seasonings, flour, rice, olive oil, oatmeal, and a whole ton of other healthy items are located in the middle of the grocery store. These are things that even the so-called nutrition expert couldn't argue with me over. Making a blanket statement like that really discourages people.
Meanwhile the outer edge of a store often has things like soda, potato chips, bakery items like cakes or pies, etc.
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05-24-2007, 06:59 PM
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my advice... FWIW.
dont go real extreme on your diet, you'll never make it. the cravings will break your will very quickly.
go for a % reduction in your sugar intake...
log it in a spreadsheet adn target a 25% (or whatever you feel appropriate) reduction in daily sugar grams. pick certain foods you don't "need" and get rid of em. see how it goes and gradually work up to better things.
yes if you eat that much sugar, non sugary things will have no "flavor" for a while.
you might log your diet here and ask people what to target. they'll help you pick reasonable substitutions. if you dont know how to cook you're missing out a whole world of delicious food.
that processed **** is disgusting to me. I'd trade your sugary foods for a Filet with Red Wine Reduction sauce with asparagus in a balsamic glaze any day.
good luck. and congrats on making a great change
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05-24-2007, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKansan
First of all this is idiotic. Canned tuna, canned salt free vegetables and fruits, natural peanut butter, seasonings, flour, rice, olive oil, oatmeal, and a whole ton of other healthy items are located in the middle of the grocery store. These are things that even the so-called nutrition expert couldn't argue with me over. Making a blanket statement like that really discourages people.
Meanwhile the outer edge of a store often has things like soda, potato chips, bakery items like cakes or pies, etc.
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Its a basic statement to help people who dont have basic nutrition knowledge. Yes the foods you listed are located in the middle of the store but for the most part, if u picked 20 random items from the outside it would be a helluva lot better than 20 items from the inside. Most of us on this forum are way beyond using this sort of statement as a help to grocery shop but some people have no knowledge whatsoever (ie. the OP of this thread)
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If someone didn't have knowledge, they could just read the nutrition info?  . That's what i always do, but I'll admit, I don't even know what half of it does for me.
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05-24-2007, 07:10 PM
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I also havent read the entire thread. I will however give one small and extremely important piece of advice. Take your time easing into this new lifestyle. The worst diet you can have is one too strict for yourself. If you find it too hard, you will fail in the long run.
Ease into the lifestyle change. My girlfriend is doing the same thing right now. If I posted her diet on here for critiqing, it would be flamed for weeks. But its much better than what she ate a few months ago and its always improving. In no time she will be eating just as healthy as me.
Avoiding failure is more important than striving for perfection when it comes to dieting. The bad days / meals are what make and break a good diet, not the good days/ meals.
My $.02
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First thing you should do IMO is decide to drink 0.0 sodas or kool aid or any similar beverage. Natural Juices (no not minute maid) , WATER, WATER, WATER, coffee, tea, milk, V-8, ...
do that and you'll dramatically reduce the sugar, then try to eat more protein and complex carbs. you''ll be well on your way. Oats in the morning, eggs, chicken etc. chipotle is a good lunch for you.
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If someone didn't have knowledge, they could just read the nutrition info?  . That's what i always do, but I'll admit, I don't even know what half of it does for me.
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Calories - 400
fat - 0.5
carbs 48g
fiber 0
sugar 31g
sodium 800mg
protein 4g
vitamins - none
"look this has no fat, it must be good for me"
enough said lol
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@ norcal... dang man you know your oats.
@ Carne .. Awesome my multi has both of those, do you think I should take extra.. if so what doses? Also I'm not sure about extra chromium, that's a metal right, something just doesn't seem too right about ingesting extra amounts of metals
@ CanSan and ElJako .... The blanket statement was probably my own doing. I'm sure the lady on the video used some kinda of "Generally Speaking" term to let us know she wasn't trying to make such a blanket statement. But the main point that hit home with me was that I haven't eaten ANY of the foods she mentioned in the past week... It was a big wake up call.... Also she did seem a little over the deep end, if you know what I mean.
@ buckeye... me doing a spread sheet wouldn't make it anywhere near as long as me quiting cold turkey.... Maybe I conveyed what I was trying to say incorrectly. I'm not talking about me never eating sugary again starting next week. I"m thinking of it more as one week of detox, with a very strict diet, followed by at least three weeks of a very controlled diet, and then gradually adding back the foods I love in strict moderation.
My goal is to eat NORMALLY, like an average healthy human being
Not down a one pound bag of skittles for dinner, which reminds me I ran out of skittles. =?
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Homemade sweets will save your life
whip up some splenda based protein muffins, bars or cookies, these can come in clutch when you have cravings, also they dont hinder and progress.
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Calories - 400
fat - 0.5
carbs 48g
fiber 0
sugar 31g
sodium 800mg
protein 4g
vitamins - none
"look this has no fat, it must be good for me"
enough said lol
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 Good point, i guess it isn't too common knowledge to avoid fats sugars and too many carbs. That's probably why i'm not very cut, haha.
Edit: 4jacks, I'm not sure on upping the chrom, I know for stuff like that there is generally a daily average that it is advised not to exceed. I won't be back at work till sunday to check the book i normally read up on stuff like that, So if no one has answered by then i'll post what it says. It may be the case that it doesn't have enough, but one natural thing you can do is to not cut out sweets altogether, like a lot of people have said. If you eliminate sweets, the cravings will tear you apart and you'll cave and binge. just have the occasional sweet, that isn't like loaded with fat and sugar or something. maybe a low fat/calorie ice cream sandwhich or something? I'm not too sure whats a good snack, somehow my body eliminated sugar cravings 100% a few years back.
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@ CanSan and ElJako .... The blanket statement was probably my own doing. I'm sure the lady on the video used some kinda of "Generally Speaking" term to let us know she wasn't trying to make such a blanket statement. But the main point that hit home with me was that I haven't eaten ANY of the foods she mentioned in the past week... It was a big wake up call.... Also she did seem a little over the deep end, if you know what I mean.
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First it is Kansan with a K.
Sorry if I sounded a little angry in that post. I was watching a tv show on Fit TV and this nutritionist lady basically was taking these out of shape people through a grocery store shopping and she made a statement like that and told the person to only shop on the outside of the store. It seemed foolish to me.
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My goal is to eat NORMALLY, like an average healthy human being
Not down a one pound bag of skittles for dinner, which reminds me I ran out of skittles. =?
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Since the average human being is not healthy, your goal should not be to eat normally, but eat better than normal.
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First it is Kansan with a K.
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Sorry, I'm a Newbie, With an N j/k =D
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Sorry if I sounded a little angry in that post. I was watching a tv show on Fit TV and this nutritionist lady basically was taking these out of shape people through a grocery store shopping and she made a statement like that and told the person to only shop on the outside of the store. It seemed foolish to me.
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quite understandable, I learned early everyone has an opinion and you have to take all this advise with a grain of salt especially the ones who seem a little flaky.
That lady and my lady must of went to school together or something, She was just talking (no grocercy store) But kinda the same deal, she talked about each department. A lot of what she said made some good sense, but you could also tell she was a little fruity, Kinda crazy stuff about the FDA and drug companies not promoting herbs and natural foods becuase they can't patten them. Kinda have to weed out the good and bad stuff.
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Since the average human being is not healthy, your goal should not be to eat normally, but eat better than normal.
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That is true, but I meant if you averaged out all the people who eat Healthy. I wasn't trying to say people eat healthy on average. haha thats funny.
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05-25-2007, 07:46 PM
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I have a book I can recommend. The author is Mark Hyman, MD and it's called "Ultrametabolism: The Simple Plan for Automatic Weightloss." You don't need to lose weight, but it's relevant for anyone who wants a healthier diet, especially one that is not laden with chemicals. It addresses sugar addiction and the harm that is caused by ingredients like high fructose corn syrup, which has been injected in everything in the U.S. from soda to bread and ketchup since the 1970s. Good luck.
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05-25-2007, 08:37 PM
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cool, I'm going to look into that book that sounds exactly like me, I think I'm addicted, it's like crack.
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05-25-2007, 09:36 PM
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hey 4jacks, I was down at another GNC today and a book i read said ~ 800mcg of chromium was a high average, don't exceed probably 950. If you have ~5-600 in your multi's, i'd say leave it be. No sense overdoing it just to do something you can do naturally, it's just harder naturally for a lot of people.
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05-25-2007, 09:45 PM
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Hmm... Mine says 200mcgs (167% DV)... I think I will stick with that and look more into gluatimine.
I'm also looking into learning to cook and make some healthier snacks to munch on for the sake of munching..
Sometimes I eat cuase I'm bored. and mostly I just grab what Is nearby, and it always ends up either my pencil or a twinkie.
Thanks Man!
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05-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Something you can try if you feel the need to eat when you're just sitting around is go get yourself a glass of water and drink it quick. I used to do that when I would be sitting around with nothing to do and it would usually hold me over until my next meal.
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Hmmm... I always have my water here, So I will try that! thanks
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I am reading Sugar Blues because I am concerned about this exact thing.
Amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/2wdelx
The book is awesome so far. I am also trying to cut a lot of sugar out of my diet, and after about a month, I've noticed how sweet fruit tastes now and how Diet Dew tastes nasty after not having it after a year. I picked one thing per week that I always ate and either cut it out of my diet or find a better substitute. I am not 100% there, but I already feel a difference!
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06-05-2007, 08:31 PM
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I am reading Sugar Blues because I am concerned about this exact thing.
Amazon link: http://tinyurl.com/2wdelx
The book is awesome so far. I am also trying to cut a lot of sugar out of my diet, and after about a month, I've noticed how sweet fruit tastes now and how Diet Dew tastes nasty after not having it after a year. I picked one thing per week that I always ate and either cut it out of my diet or find a better substitute. I am not 100% there, but I already feel a difference!
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That is awesome, thanks for the link, Amazon has copies for $1.77 used, so maybe I'll look into that!
I quit Cold Turkey, it's been one week today. And Honestly it has been the best week of my life as far as how I feel physically. I just feel so completely different, like a whole new person. I"m hungry all the time, and it feels really good to eat something with some protein and good for you. I feel so much more satisfied after I eat, It's a weird sense of Joy.
I've started Aikido back up, and started lifting again, and it really has been one of the greatest weeks of my life.
I don't know why quiting Cold Turkey seems to work for me, but for some strange reason it seems to work for me. So far I've had no desires to eat sugary foods, I have ice cream in the freezer that I haven't touched, and I have two snicker bars in the kitchen that I've been meaning to give away, but haven't gotten to them, and I really just have no desire eat them.
One thing that has crossed my head is a SLURPEE from 7-11 !!!!! I keep telling myself, just two or three weeks more and then maybe I can have a slurpee and enjoy it in moderation!
I wish you the best in your goal to ditch sugar!!
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take it slow and progress it will come
a really good trick is this if its not in sight or not available u cant eat it.. take all ur junk food and store it away and lock it up or give it away or sell it.. if u cant get ur hands on it u cant eat it rite? try something like dat
my mom made a cake for my dad and its sitting on the kitchen table i see it everyday when i wake up and pass it.. but i rather have a bowl of cereal a banana and a protein shake to tell u the truth
1 week at a time try to eliminate something small.. take a little of this out of ur diet at a time..
reduce the amnt of koolaid u drink 1 week
ditch pop the next
erase that late nite milkshake from dairy queen or that piece of cake
for me if i eat a piece of cake my weight will shoot up 1 lb because my body is not use to sugars or white breads because i never ever eat them really..
so if i have a cheat snack or a cheat meal my body jumps like 1-2 lbs the next day.. tell me that aint crazy! because i eat something out of the ordinarty ill eat a lot of it.. like ill eat 1/3 of a cake in a sitting along with my other food like chicken and rice and veggies.. .. but i havent done something like that in like 3-4 weeks and ive been maintaing a good bulk , so **** the ****ty foods just eat the good stuff
keep working out hard.. keep ur cardio up and attend ur classes ur doing a good job! dont stop and keep working hard
remember if u do happen to cheat..resume ur next meal as planned and continue along..w e all hit bumps in the road
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