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05-23-2007, 01:19 PM
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Mata Leao
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When to eat fruit while cutting?
What is the ideal time i should be eating fruit throughout the day in your guys opinion if i'm cutting? Morning, pre/post, snack, or before bed?
I usually have grapefruit, bananas, strawberries etc.
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05-23-2007, 01:21 PM
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Morning / post workout.
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05-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Whenever you want, fruit is great. If your competing, maybe cut it out the last few weeks. But for most normal bodybuilders, fruit is great.
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05-23-2007, 01:40 PM
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If it fits in your daily macros, EAT IT!
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05-23-2007, 01:41 PM
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But like boyscout previously mention, morning and PWO would be ideal. I have blueberries in my oats every mornin.
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05-23-2007, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boyscouT
Morning / post workout.
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all times except PWO.. It wouldnt be bad PWO, persay, but you want as little solid food as possible PWO. The more solid foods there are in the stomach, the slower the food will move through the digestive tract (bad). The higher the liquid:solid particles, the faster it will move (good).
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If it fits in your daily macros, EAT IT!
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When will this one stop??!!! This one is just as stupid as "its bad because the GI is over XX."
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But like boyscout previously mention, morning and PWO would be ideal. I have blueberries in my oats every mornin.
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Why do you think PWO would be ideal? Or are you just saying that becuase someone who makes alot of posts is saying it? Or becuase you read it in an article when you googled 'fruit post workout'?
OP, low calorie fruits like all high fiber fruits, berries, citrus, melons, etc are good to eat at most times of the day, except immediately post workout. 45 min- 1 hour or so PWO is fine, as your post workout shake has had time to 'move ahead' of the solid food.
It is very important that immediately PWO, the nutrients move from your stomach, to your small intenstine, into your blood stream, and into your muscle cells as fast as possible. This is why it is best to avoid solid foods immediately after; a meal containing solid food will simply take longer to move through the digestive tract.
In the hours before your workout, 'lighter' carbs such as most fruits and vegetables are preferable over large amounts of starchy, calorie dense foods.
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05-23-2007, 02:24 PM
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I meant i would think fruit would be good PWO cause of most fruits sugar content. Wouldn't this help in spiking insulin levels?
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05-23-2007, 02:32 PM
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Quote:
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I meant i would think fruit would be good PWO cause of most fruits sugar content. Wouldn't this help in spiking insulin levels?
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no, fructose isnt. It isnt processed in the same way as most sugars, so it takes much longer to raise blood sugar levels.
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05-23-2007, 03:21 PM
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I like to have it as a snack. This is usually about 3-4 hours before my workout. Its healthy, and fairly filling for what it is. I don't have any backing as to when its better to have, i'm just saying what I do...
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05-25-2007, 02:37 AM
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Thanks
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05-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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fruit prewo in a calorie deficit is very useful as the fructose will assist in filling liver glycogen and creating an anabolic environment in which to train. PWO it isnt bad but you dont want excessive fructose as your trying to replenish muscle glycogen, not liver.
Fruit is good to eat on cuts as it will go towards maintining liver glycogen which will help to prevent catabolsim
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05-25-2007, 03:40 AM
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I have a bannana with my tuna/wrap (14g fiber) at lunch and one when I get home. My weight is predictably (except for some reason too much this week) dropping like a rock so it can't be hurting too much.
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05-25-2007, 04:22 AM
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i always have a banana pre and post wo when cuttin
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05-25-2007, 04:35 AM
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Bananas are my weakness can't get enough of those yellow f--kers, so have we agreed that they aren't ideal PWO, rather they should be eaten 1:30-2hrs PreWO is this correct?
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05-25-2007, 04:38 AM
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Bananas are my weakness can't get enough of those yellow f--kers, so have we agreed that they aren't ideal PWO, rather they should be eaten 1:30-2hrs PreWO is this correct?
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PWO fructose isnt the devil - you just dont want it to be your primary source of carbs. AA recommends (IIRC) 1:3 ratio fructose:glucose
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05-25-2007, 04:43 AM
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Does anyone know the glucose-fructose ratio of each fruit ?
I read that berries and oranges were pretty low in fructose... which made them more kind to the intestines...
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05-25-2007, 04:47 AM
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all the time. it's just fruit, and its perfectly fine to eat while cutting, despite what many people say..... no one became an obese fatass because of fruits lol
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05-25-2007, 04:50 AM
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banana is good pwo, good source of dextrose i have it with a shake
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05-25-2007, 05:27 AM
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PREWORKOUT
These fruits provide higher fructose than glucose for sustained fuel
that won't block fat burning. Eat one or two servings.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Pear (1 medium) 16 11 5
Watermelon (1 wedge) 18 12 6
Apple (1 medium) 14 9 5
Cantaloupe (1/2 melon) 22 12 10
Grapes (1 cup) 24 13 11
Strawberries (2 cups) 14 8 6
Raspberries (2 cups) 10 6 4
MORNING
These fruits provide equal or nearly equal fructose and glucose to
restock liver and muscle glycogen to help halt muscle breakdown. Eat two
or three servings.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Pineapple (1 cup diced) 13 7 6
Honeydew melon (1 wedge) 13 7 6
Orange (1 medium) 12 6 6
Banana (1 medium) 18 9 9
Blueberries (1 cup) 14 7 7
Nectarine (1 medium) 10 5 5
Kiwi fruit (2 medium) 12 6 6
POSTWORKOUT
These fruits provide more glucose than fructose for restocking muscle
glycogen and enhancing muscle growth. (The last five fruits from the
morning fruit category are also decent choices postworkout, for their
ability to fill glycogen stores.) Eat one or two servings along with
white bread, baked potatoes or a carb drink.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Cherries (1 cup) 14 6 8
Peach (1 medium) 8 3 5
* Quantities are in grams.
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05-25-2007, 05:35 AM
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Thanks for the anwer mate.
But this article seems wrong, as they don't count saccharose content...
Or maybe its: SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* OTHER SUGARS*
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05-25-2007, 06:10 AM
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Fresh apricot seem to have the lowest fructose content, it would explain their moderatly high GI although it has only 9 % total carb.
apricot (fresh):
Sugars 100 g
Glucose (g) 2.3700
Fructose (g) 0.9400
Maltose (g) 0.0600 0.
Galactose (g) 0.0000
Lactose (g) 0.0000
Saccharose (g) 5.8700
Raffinose (g) 0.0000
Stachyose (g) 0.0000
Mannitol (g) 0.0000
Sorbitol (g) 0.8000
other sugars (g) 0.0000
Total sugars (g) 9.2400
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05-25-2007, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sockomalo
PREWORKOUT
These fruits provide higher fructose than glucose for sustained fuel
that won't block fat burning. Eat one or two servings.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Pear (1 medium) 16 11 5
Watermelon (1 wedge) 18 12 6
Apple (1 medium) 14 9 5
Cantaloupe (1/2 melon) 22 12 10
Grapes (1 cup) 24 13 11
Strawberries (2 cups) 14 8 6
Raspberries (2 cups) 10 6 4
MORNING
These fruits provide equal or nearly equal fructose and glucose to
restock liver and muscle glycogen to help halt muscle breakdown. Eat two
or three servings.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Pineapple (1 cup diced) 13 7 6
Honeydew melon (1 wedge) 13 7 6
Orange (1 medium) 12 6 6
Banana (1 medium) 18 9 9
Blueberries (1 cup) 14 7 7
Nectarine (1 medium) 10 5 5
Kiwi fruit (2 medium) 12 6 6
POSTWORKOUT
These fruits provide more glucose than fructose for restocking muscle
glycogen and enhancing muscle growth. (The last five fruits from the
morning fruit category are also decent choices postworkout, for their
ability to fill glycogen stores.) Eat one or two servings along with
white bread, baked potatoes or a carb drink.
FRUIT TOTAL SUGARS* FRUCTOSE* GLUCOSE*
Cherries (1 cup) 14 6 8
Peach (1 medium) 8 3 5
* Quantities are in grams.
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Sorry if this is noob, but...grapefruits fit in where?
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