Summer Hints: For the Eager Beaver Teen

[OnceAFatAsian]

So.

It's summer and you're looking to start up a new routine to look "cut", and "huge". You're looking at all your friends, and you're like "oh snap look at his abs". Its time to get in shape.

So lets present some of the basic facts that many teens should understand:

The Routine:

You should begin understanding what exactly a properly planned routine can do for you, and also understand a full body routine won't do much good. You won't get anywhere fast, and nonetheless effeciently. So lets begin to look at the basic breakdowns of a routine.

1. You can split your days into these major muscle groups
Biceps, Triceps, Back, Chest, Shoulders, Lower Back, Legs, Core, Accessories
Many people favor a 2 day split, along with one day off. Many favor a 3 or 4 day split with one day off. Its up to you decide and it also matters on how you feel. Everybody type is different. Figure out what gives you the best gains.

2. The rules of beginning your routine. Lift Light, and Learn to Contract. Yeh it may sound stupid but most beginners dont understand, contracting your muscle properly gives you even better results. It won't come fast, and its definately something you'll have to learn through experience. It's taken me almost 3 years to learn how to contract properly, and to also life with proper form. Light weight is simply there to keep you on track, and away from that superficial bs that lifting heavy is the way to go. Lifting heavy is the way to go once you've settled your foundation.



3. Go to the gym, and get a feel for it. Don't go into the gym thinking you're going to know everything you're going to do. You're not. That experience is going to take months, if not years to gain. I for one took three years before I've been able to properly contract particular muscle groups, and also weight with near flawless form.

4. Look for help. Don't stare! If there's some guy that's HUGE in your gym, but hopefully isn't on roids. Ask for some advice. If they're a dick, ask someone else. There's always going to be someone more experienced than you in the gym that'll hopefully shed some of their Yoda like wisdom to brighten your day.

5. So you've finally got some feel for the gym, and you feel like you're getting settled in. Now lets look at a diet plan.

We'll refer to the basics right now and a bit more on the advanced sides later.

Water - You want to be drinking at least 3-4 Litres a day. I can't stress this enough. Not only does this help your energy levels, it keeps your kidneys smiling, and your urinary tract nice and clean. It'll overall help your mental focus, and your strength. Drink lots during your work out.

Protein - Protein. What is protein? Well its an essentail part to building your muscle. Most and many will argue too much protein won't be absorbed so that is why you take protein in intervals. If you have a friend that thinks he's cool saying, "Oh yeh my protein shake has 100g." Simply walk away and laugh at the idea of him having massive diarrhea as his body rejects the excess protein.

Split your protein shakes up into 3 dosages. One early morning to "break your fast". One right after work out (which I will go into detail later on) and one one hour before you sleep to keep your body from completely starving through your beauty sleep.

Your post workout shake is vital to your success. Not only is it called an "anabolic window" its when your body NEEDS and WANTS protein. Just imagine a girl who is horny --> That is like your body right after your workout. Go in for the kill!

Post-Workout shakes need to be fast acting protein. Don't eat any fatty foods because it'll simply slow your digestion down, and leave your protein wilting as your body closes its window of opporunity. Muscle Milk is NOT recommended for this shake. It is high in fat.

So now we're through with the VERY VERY basic foundation of a true BB diet. The second is, well what can you supplement besides protein. There are several options.

1. Glutamine - Glutamine is a very debatable amino acid as most positive effects aren't phyiscally or mentally noticable to a large extent. Glutamine levels drop well below their regular production levels when an individual is training 4 or more times a week. This would include many of you teens who are just starting. When glutamine levels drop, the body taxes on its reserves taken much of that needed glutamine away from your immune system in which glutamine secondarly supports. This will lead to getting sick. In my opinion, glutamine is a great addition to your protein shakes. It is not necesary to add more than 15g to your daily diet, so split it up 5g per shake.

2.CLA - Conjugated Linoleic Acid - Another fatty acid that is great for your diet. "Supposedly" proven to lower your body fat %, this has been sold for many decades as a miracle drug- Its not. It'll help, but its not going to make your abs appear over night. If you plan to buy any CLA supplements, make sure you read their ingredients. Most companies try and rip you off by giving you a "1000mg" CLA Pill which is actually only 85%CLA as stated on the nutritional label. Read the label to make sure you're get a nice potent CLA supplement 90%+. I recommend 6g a day as its been proven for best results.

3.BCAA - Branch Chain Amino Acids- god that's long. Yeh its a bunch of yipper yabber jibberish, so lets put it in lamen terms. IT HELPS your muscles from DESTROYING themselves because you've decided to work out for 2 hours. Working out for 2 hours is not suggested becuase you've overtrained your muscles. BCAA will help in recovery time and is best bought in powder form.

4. Omega Oils 3-6-9 - Whichever you want. Its a great supplement to keep you healthy. Stay away from UDO's oil as its simply marketed to be overpriced. Many other companies sell the same oil for alot cheaper, or they sell them seperataly and is not a cocktail blend of all 3 oils.

5. Creatine - You can take creatine monohydrate, but I don't really see the use of it. I don't find many gains off creatine and find it as a very controversial supplement along with glutamine.

6. Stimulants (No-Xplode) - No these aren't miracle drugs but they will definately help your pre-work out energy levels. Products such as SuperPump250 and No-Xplode will simply boost your energy levels through the roof right before a workout, and give you "Aesthetically" pleasing pumps. I quote "Aesthetically" pleasing pumps because alot of it is a placebo effect (placebo means you're just mentally feeling good and its nothing really that physcially changing at a molecular level anyways.) Mind you these placebo effects do make your work outs better, because well- if you could self-induce placebo effect we could call dream we were on roids

The Myths:

"Omfg, my friend said he gained 40 pounds in a year, and like why aren't i get HUGGGGE"
---Well I hope you noticed if your friend gained 40 pounds, not only would he look abnormally large changing that much in a year that its probably a whole load of fat.

It is physically impossible to gain PURE and I emphasize PURE muscle around 40 pounds a year, unless you're of course on some random illegal substance. The body naturally can only really pack on about 10-15 pounds.. and that's honestly pushing it. If you're reaching 15 pounds of PURE muscle you most likely have very gifted genetics.

"If everyone has abs, how come mine aren't showing? My body fat thingy measured 10% that means im close!!"
-- No your body fat measurey thingy is bull**** and marketed to make fat people feel great about themselves. In nice fine print they like to stay it has a +/- of about 5%. Meaning its HORRIBLY inaccurate. That includes those stupid ones you step on that are included in your electronic weigher.

Just because everyone has abs, doesn't mean you're going to magically get them. Getting abs is form of art, especially if you aren't gifted majorly with nice lean genes. It takes a balance of a good diet, the perfect amount of cardio, and the right amount of good core and ab training. -- Relax its not the end of the world. They'll come sooner or later.

The Conclusion:
So lets face it right now. It's May. For all of whom have actually read my full write up, I hope it helps.

But- Its May. Its far too close to summer to cut, especially if you're inexperienced. Read up on Bulk Diets, and try to stay away from thinking you can BULK with minimal fat. Fat will always accompany a bulk- that's just the unfortunate truth.

If you have any questions, feel free to pm me.

[Torrtrefireto]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

So.

4. Omega Oils 3-6-9 - Whichever you want. Its a great supplement to keep you healthy. Stay away from UDO's oil as its simply marketed to be overpriced. Many other companies sell the same oil for alot cheaper, or they sell them seperataly and is not a cocktail blend of all 3 oils.

No one in a developed country needs to take in any extra omega 6 acids, the reason people have to supplement omega 3's is because their diet is so high in omega 6s and 9s that its imbalanced and unhlealthy

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto

No one in a developed country needs to take in any extra omega 6 acids, the reason people have to supplement omega 3's is because their diet is so high in omega 6s and 9s that its imbalanced and unhlealthy

Unless you can prove, everyone - especially teenagers that are just begining are properly getting all oils? uh - I think not. I find your statement generalized, and unjustified.

[azne]

nice job on the thread. /repped nice abs btw (NO HOMO)

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

Unless you can prove, everyone - especially teenagers that are just begining are properly getting all oils? uh - I think not. I find your statement generalized, and unjustified.

wow you're a tard, please, if I have to hear how it took you 3 years on how to lift a damn weight the right way I am going to kill myself. I think you can tell, or someone else WILL tell you, when you're doing a lift completely wrong.If I managed to get my squats almost perfect in 4-6 months, I think I can handle whatever leg curl or other sissy machine lift you do.

o, and btw, I can prove everyone is getting enough omega-6 and 9, very easily I might add

Dietary sources of omega-6 fatty acids include:

* nuts
* cereals
* whole-grain breads
* most vegetable oils
* eggs and poultry
* baked goods.

now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if your seriously into lifting, I think you eating your fair share of whole grain breads, eggs, and poultry.

O and btw, omega - 9 is produced by the body, and doesn't need to be supplemented, so unless you have some sort of weird dieseas where your body doesn't make omega-9, you'll be ok.

please, don't post here anymore if your going to think you know everything, you don't sound smart.

[user179144]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

wow you're a tard, please, if I have to hear how it took you 3 years on how to lift a damn weight the right way I am going to kill myself. I think you can tell, or someone else WILL tell you, when you're doing a lift completely wrong.If I managed to get my squats almost perfect in 4-6 months, I think I can handle whatever leg curl or other sissy machine lift you do.

o, and btw, I can prove everyone is getting enough omega-6 and 9, very easily I might add

Dietary sources of omega-6 fatty acids include:

* nuts
* cereals
* whole-grain breads
* most vegetable oils
* eggs and poultry
* baked goods.

now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if your seriously into lifting, I think you eating your fair share of whole grain breads, eggs, and poultry.

O and btw, omega - 9 is produced by the body, and doesn't need to be supplemented, so unless you have some sort of weird dieseas where your body doesn't make omega-9, you'll be ok.

please, don't post here anymore if your going to think you know everything, you don't sound smart.

Wow....OnceAFatAsain wipe your mouth.....owned.

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

wow you're a tard, please, if I have to hear how it took you 3 years on how to lift a damn weight the right way I am going to kill myself. I think you can tell, or someone else WILL tell you, when you're doing a lift completely wrong.If I managed to get my squats almost perfect in 4-6 months, I think I can handle whatever leg curl or other sissy machine lift you do.

o, and btw, I can prove everyone is getting enough omega-6 and 9, very easily I might add

Dietary sources of omega-6 fatty acids include:

* nuts
* cereals
* whole-grain breads
* most vegetable oils
* eggs and poultry
* baked goods.

now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if your seriously into lifting, I think you eating your fair share of whole grain breads, eggs, and poultry.

O and btw, omega - 9 is produced by the body, and doesn't need to be supplemented, so unless you have some sort of weird dieseas where your body doesn't make omega-9, you'll be ok.

please, don't post here anymore if your going to think you know everything, you don't sound smart.

Its good to know you're critical about things. But honestly, "its produced in the body so it doesnt need to be supplemented. Stop taking any form of amino acid then. Lets see how far you get with that logic. As far as im concerned by that logic, I think you should ONLY be taking non-essential amino acids because, **** your body doesnt need to supplement when it makes its own.... Oh right, thats why there's a word called supplement.

and about your post on Omega-6's.

Its good to know you went to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-6_fatty_acid
To find your list, your very knowledgable.

So I suppose to begin with. Your incredible logic. I guess you shouldnt supplement at all for one..

Nonethless talk about how the general western diet also hinders most of the bodies natural Omega-6 and 9 production.

Less to mention, I never recommended to take 6 and 9, nor did I highlight it was necessary. It was a simple suggestion. I take it, and well it doesn't looking like im heading into any diseased direction.

That's good to know that you perfected your "squat" form in 4-6 months. You should be proud of yourself. I'm promoting the idea that there's no such thing as a such short cut, which is a healthy idea to promote especaily to people who don't know better.

If - You think so justified that I bothered to write something because DAILY i've been posting about the same thing. Then I guess i'm sorry I wasted your time for making you read it. But happily someone gained from my suggestion.

I took my time to write this up. Yeh there are some debatable subject, but I sure would like to see you post on the >supplements< forum that some >supplements< are entirely unecesary because >your body produces it on its own<

[user179144]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

Its good to know you're critical about things. But honestly, "its produced in the body so it doesnt need to be supplemented. Stop taking any form of amino acid then. Lets see how far you get with that logic. As far as im concerned by that logic, I think you should ONLY be taking non-essential amino acids because, **** your body doesnt need to supplement when it makes its own.... Oh right, thats why there's a word called supplement.

and about your post on Omega-6's.

Its good to know you went to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-6_fatty_acid
To find your list, your very knowledgable.

So I suppose to begin with. Your incredible logic. I guess you shouldnt supplement at all for one..

Nonethless talk about how the general western diet also hinders most of the bodies natural Omega-6 and 9 production.

Less to mention, I never recommended to take 6 and 9, nor did I highlight it was necessary. It was a simple suggestion. I take it, and well it doesn't looking like im heading into any diseased direction.

That's good to know that you perfected your "squat" form in 4-6 months. You should be proud of yourself. I'm promoting the idea that there's no such thing as a such short cut, which is a healthy idea to promote especaily to people who don't know better.

If - You think so justified that I bothered to write something because DAILY i've been posting about the same thing. Then I guess i'm sorry I wasted your time for making you read it. But happily someone gained from my suggestion.

I took my time to write this up. Yeh there are some debatable subject, but I sure would like to see you post on the >supplements< forum that some >supplements< are entirely unecesary because >your body produces it on its own<

Ohh God...Big Strong MAN just wipe your entire face...burned.

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Shawn3k1

Wow....OnceAFatAsain wipe your mouth.....owned.

As for you.

Originally Posted by Shawn3k1

How would drinking kill your gains?
Im torn right now, cuz i like working out and i love drinking....im in a good place with alcohol right now =)...so how does it ruin your gains?"

I'll give you a choice.

You can drink every night to see your "amazing" gains. Or you can take PH or roids becuase they'll do JUST enough damage to your liver anyways. Don't tell me to wipe my mouth, when you're wiping your mouth with alcohol while attempting to bodybuild. Nonetheless the fact you would post such a iggnorant thread on a bodybuilding forum. I dont fancy your stupidity, and for soemone like you its best keep your mouth close then make it a fact.

[user179144]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

As for you.



I'll give you a choice.

You can drink every night to see your "amazing" gains. Or you can take PH or roids becuase they'll do JUST enough damage to your liver anyways. Don't tell me to wipe my mouth, when you're wiping your mouth with alcohol while attempting to bodybuild. Nonetheless the fact you would post such a iggnorant thread on a bodybuilding forum. I dont fancy your stupidity, and for soemone like you its best keep your mouth close then make it a fact.

Damn....Shawn3k1 wipe yo....**** thats me!.....nice stalking bro.

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

Its good to know you're critical about things. But honestly, "its produced in the body so it doesnt need to be supplemented. Stop taking any form of amino acid then. Lets see how far you get with that logic. As far as im concerned by that logic, I think you should ONLY be taking non-essential amino acids because, **** your body doesnt need to supplement when it makes its own.... Oh right, thats why there's a word called supplement.

and about your post on Omega-6's.

Its good to know you went to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-6_fatty_acid
To find your list, your very knowledgable.

So I suppose to begin with. Your incredible logic. I guess you shouldnt supplement at all for one..

Nonethless talk about how the general western diet also hinders most of the bodies natural Omega-6 and 9 production.

Less to mention, I never recommended to take 6 and 9, nor did I highlight it was necessary. It was a simple suggestion. I take it, and well it doesn't looking like im heading into any diseased direction.

That's good to know that you perfected your "squat" form in 4-6 months. You should be proud of yourself. I'm promoting the idea that there's no such thing as a such short cut, which is a healthy idea to promote especaily to people who don't know better.

If - You think so justified that I bothered to write something because DAILY i've been posting about the same thing. Then I guess i'm sorry I wasted your time for making you read it. But happily someone gained from my suggestion.

I took my time to write this up. Yeh there are some debatable subject, but I sure would like to see you post on the >supplements< forum that some >supplements< are entirely unecesary because >your body produces it on its own<

You, my friend, used a lot of words to say a lot of nothing.

Yes, I used wikipedia as a reference, because I didn't know all the sources of Omega - 6. But wait, you never learned anything from someone else's research, you actually DID a chemical breakdown of foods to find what had omega - 6. I won't make that mistake again.

Also, no you don't need to supplement anything your body makes on it's own. Your "hence the word supplement" comment had me in tears, think about this one. Does your body make protein? So why is it the biggest SUPPLEMENT on the market. Your a god damn idiot. There called SUPPLEMENTS because you are SUPPLEMENTING what you get through food with an outside source.

Your crack about western diets hindering Omega 6/9 production? do you like to prove the things you say, or you like to make ridiculous claims.

Don't think your a guru because you were a fat piece of ****, and now your a skinny piece of ****.

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

As for you.



I'll give you a choice.

You can drink every night to see your "amazing" gains. Or you can take PH or roids becuase they'll do JUST enough damage to your liver anyways. Don't tell me to wipe my mouth, when you're wiping your mouth with alcohol while attempting to bodybuild. Nonetheless the fact you would post such a iggnorant thread on a bodybuilding forum. I dont fancy your stupidity, and for soemone like you its best keep your mouth close then make it a fact.

wow, you're telling someone to shut up?

Shawn3k1, drink, just not every night, once a week is ok, just make sure you drink a lot of water and have a protien shake after your done drinking if possible, to help with the slowed protein synthesis

oncefatasian, please stfu

[user179144]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

wow, you're telling someone to shut up?

Shawn3k1, drink, just not every night, once a week is ok, just make sure you drink a lot of water and have a protien shake after your done drinking if possible, to help with the slowed protein synthesis

oncefatasian, please stfu

Wow I loved that answer. Repped.

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

You, my friend, used a lot of words to say a lot of nothing.

Yes, I used wikipedia as a reference, because I didn't know all the sources of Omega - 6. But wait, you never learned anything from someone else's research, you actually DID a chemical breakdown of foods to find what had omega - 6. I won't make that mistake again.

Also, no you don't need to supplement anything your body makes on it's own. Your "hence the word supplement" comment had me in tears, think about this one. Does your body make protein? So why is it the biggest SUPPLEMENT on the market. Your a god damn idiot. There called SUPPLEMENTS because you are SUPPLEMENTING what you get through food with an outside source.

Your crack about western diets hindering Omega 6/9 production? do you like to prove the things you say, or you like to make ridiculous claims.

Don't think your a guru because you were a fat piece of ****, and now your a skinny piece of ****.

"To say that all omega-6s are "bad" is an <B>oversimplification.</b> It is true that we generally get an excess of the omega-6 Linoleic Acid in our diet. But many factors of our modern lifestyle hamper the body's ability to produce the good omega-6, GLA: consumption of sugar, alcohol, saturated fats and trans-fatty acids, diabetes, aging, stress, prescription medications, and viral infections to name a few. Insufficient quantities of zinc, magnesium, and vitamins B6, C, and niacin also slow the process. For this reason, it is a good idea to supplement with a readily absorbed source of GLA such as borage or evening primrose oil in addition to supplementing with sources of omega-3 fatty acids such as flax and fish oil."

"It is true that North Americans generally consume plenty of Linoleic Acid in processed foods, margarine, and vegetable oils. It is also true that the body should convert some Linoleic Acid to GLA, which, in turn, is used to produce beneficial eicosanoids."

"However, many people have difficulty using Linoleic Acid due to an impairment in a critical enzyme known as Delta-6-Desaturase, or "D6D". Without this enzyme, the body cannot convert LA into GLA, halting the production of beneficial eicosanoids."


For Shawn
"D6D function is impaired in many people partially due to the excessively high consumption of LA and partially due to other lifestyle factors such as smoking, sugar and alcohol consumption, stress, vitamin deficiencies, and high levels of saturated fat and trans-fatty acids in the diet. Some disease states, such as diabetes and eczema, are also associated with impaired D6D function"



and no i'm not skinny. I like to consider myself lean. Btw. Personal attacks won't get you anywhere cept bloat your ego through a forum. Whatever floats your boat.

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

"To say that all omega-6s are "bad" is an <B>oversimplification.</b> It is true that we generally get an excess of the omega-6 Linoleic Acid in our diet. But many factors of our modern lifestyle hamper the body's ability to produce the good omega-6, GLA: consumption of sugar, alcohol, saturated fats and trans-fatty acids, diabetes, aging, stress, prescription medications, and viral infections to name a few. Insufficient quantities of zinc, magnesium, and vitamins B6, C, and niacin also slow the process. For this reason, it is a good idea to supplement with a readily absorbed source of GLA such as borage or evening primrose oil in addition to supplementing with sources of omega-3 fatty acids such as flax and fish oil."

"It is true that North Americans generally consume plenty of Linoleic Acid in processed foods, margarine, and vegetable oils. It is also true that the body should convert some Linoleic Acid to GLA, which, in turn, is used to produce beneficial eicosanoids."

"However, many people have difficulty using Linoleic Acid due to an impairment in a critical enzyme known as Delta-6-Desaturase, or "D6D". Without this enzyme, the body cannot convert LA into GLA, halting the production of beneficial eicosanoids."


For Shawn
"D6D function is impaired in many people partially due to the excessively high consumption of LA and partially due to other lifestyle factors such as smoking, sugar and alcohol consumption, stress, vitamin deficiencies, and high levels of saturated fat and trans-fatty acids in the diet. Some disease states, such as diabetes and eczema, are also associated with impaired D6D function"



and no i'm not skinny. I like to consider myself lean. Btw. Personal attacks won't get you anywhere cept bloat your ego through a forum. Whatever floats your boat.

again, you write a lot, but your words say nothing, you quoted a whole bunch of random BS. Where are these quotes from? cite them, are these credible sources?

And once, more, all these statements are for the average Joe. As lifters, we consume high amounts of whole grains, eggs, and poultry, which contain plenty of omega-6. If we followed every conventional RDA, everyone here would be consuming 50g of protein a day....which again, is fine for Joe Blow.

lean entails low body fat, which you do have, but not the muscles bud. your skinny, and don't act like you don't want to get bigger, or else you wouldn't be here. If you've been lifting for 4 years, wheres all your muscle buddy? I'm Callin your bull****. O wait, you spent the first 3 years learning how to lift, I forgot that part.....



sorrrrrry

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

again, you write a lot, but your words say nothing, you quoted a whole bunch of random BS. Where are these quotes from? cite them, are these credible sources?

And once, more, all these statements are for the average Joe. As lifters, we consume high amounts of whole grains, eggs, and poultry, which contain plenty of omega-6. If we followed every conventional RDA, everyone here would be consuming 50g of protein a day....which again, is fine for Joe Blow.

lean entails low body fat, which you do have, but not the muscles bud. your skinny, and don't act like you don't want to get bigger, or else you wouldn't be here. If you've been lifting for 4 years, wheres all your muscle buddy? I'm Callin your bull****. O wait, you spent the first 3 years learning how to lift, I forgot that part.....

soooory I forgot. I think I just reigned down on your pixelated dellusion ego you have of your physique. Lighting won't fix it either.


Oops sorrrry I think I reigned down on your dellusional ego, and well physique. Lighting won't make it any better for you either.

soooorrry to reign down on your dellusional ego.



sorrrrrry

If you want to know my Life story. I started lifting when i was 15. I was currently turning 19 in half a month. I had substantial fat loss after a single year at 17, and during the summer of 17 I had appendicitis. Read my profile. That had substantially put me back, and I actually have several picz of me pre and post surgery.

Your attitude is vulgar, nonetheless juvenile. Fact is. Yeh you're big. Yeh I'm lean. At least I >can see the muscle<. If you want personal attack, there's nothing on you that might suggest you have muscle besides soft somewhat heavy substances we like to call fat.

Sooorrry I think I reigned down on your pixelated fueled dellusional ego. I guess you don't care what you look like as quoted by your profile. Too bad lighting can't even fix that.

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

If you want to know my Life story. I started lifting when i was 15. I was currently turning 19 in half a month. I had substantial fat loss after a single year at 17, and during the summer of 17 I had appendicitis. Read my profile. That had substantially put me back, and I actually have several picz of me pre and post surgery.

Your attitude is vulgar, nonetheless juvenile. Fact is. Yeh you're big. Yeh I'm lean. At least I >can see the muscle<. If you want personal attack, there's nothing on you that might suggest you have muscle besides soft somewhat heavy substances we like to call fat.

lol and if you would have read my profile, you would see the quote, " I want to lift as much as possible, I don't give a fuk what i look like" several times in there.I've been lifting for 6 months and look at where my lifts are....if yours are close i would be shocked. I also didnt know you could call me fat from just looking at my back, being its the only picture i have up there

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

lol and if you would have read my profile, you would see the quote, " I want to lift as much as possible, I don't give a fuk what i look like" several times in there.I've been lifting for 6 months and look at where my lifts are....if yours are close i would be shocked. I also didnt know you could call me fat from just looking at my back, being its the only picture i have up there

Draw in some photoshoped lines where you're toned if it'll make you feel better. Yes you do look fat from the back, are you happy now?

[buffmanjohnson]

doesnt ur body produce creatine? and ppl supplement that all the time...

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

Draw in some photoshoped lines where you're toned if it'll make you feel better. Yes you do look fat from the back, are you happy now?

wow thats all you got? I'm achieving my goals, which does make me happy. I could care less if I looked like fat albert as long as I lifted an Insane amount of weight. The question is, are you achieving your goals?

Originally Posted by buffmanjohnson

doesnt ur body produce creatine? and ppl supplement that all the time...

true, but not of a lack of creatine, but because megadosing creatine has benefits.

[The-Shark]

shut up fat asian you were once fat and now arnt even in great shape...
your picture is in black/white to hide the shape and to increase the depth of your cuts, get some 'legit' pics up of you when you were fat, then what you are now... and fuk off until then rofl...
no1 cares what u could have been like if this or that didnt happen, and no1 gives a fuk about all this technical **** when it is almost completely useless to know... especially when it comes from some1 with a less then impressive physique...
i drink fukloads, i smoke fukloads, i dont take suppliments or vitamins and im in a very good shape... recent pics will be posted soon...

[buffmanjohnson]

hey OnceAFatAsian, im not sure if i missed it or wot, but where is the chest and shoulder days?

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

wow thats all you got? I'm achieving my goals, which does make me happy. I could care less if I looked like fat albert as long as I lifted an Insane amount of weight. The question is, are you achieving your goals?



true, but not of a lack of creatine, but because megadosing creatine has benefits.

Megadosing creatine? What people suggest do not fall under the category of megadosing HUGE BIG MAN.

Wait, can you even define megadosing? Or did you just throw that in like your wikipedia smarts? ****, let me wikipedia before you do!

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by buffmanjohnson

hey OnceAFatAsian, im not sure if i missed it or wot, but where is the chest and shoulder days?

You're right, I did accidently miss to put those in. Thanx

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by The-Shark

shut up fat asian you were once fat and now arnt even in great shape...
your picture is in black/white to hide the shape and to increase the depth of your cuts, get some 'legit' pics up of you when you were fat, then what you are now... and fuk off until then rofl...
no1 cares what u could have been like if this or that didnt happen, and no1 gives a fuk about all this technical **** when it is almost completely useless to know... especially when it comes from some1 with a less then impressive physique...
i drink fukloads, i smoke fukloads, i dont take suppliments or vitamins and im in a very good shape... recent pics will be posted soon...

Nothing you said really bothered me to an extent, cept made me muse are your own self demise.

You're bragging to your own death rights. Good for you?

[The-Shark]

BB goals: to have abs period.

Truth: this kid hardly has abs, period.

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by The-Shark

BB goals: to have abs period.

Truth: this kid hardly has abs, period.

Which is why it is a goal. Did you fail english?

Such as your little signature

"To be the epitome of male fitness"
.... Hmmm...

Good one Aussie!

[Big Strong MAN]

Originally Posted by OnceAFatAsian

Megadosing creatine? What people suggest do not fall under the category of megadosing HUGE BIG MAN.

Wait, can you even define megadosing? Or did you just throw that in like your wikipedia smarts? ****, let me wikipedia before you do!

well, by megadose, I meant adding creatine to a diet that has no use for it. One could have a long happy life without ever supplementing creatine.

Your muscles are already packed with creatine, which is why when you force more in by "supplementing" it, it has the effects it has.

[buffmanjohnson]

hey settle down asian, r u having a crack at aussies r u?

[OnceAFatAsian]

Originally Posted by Big Strong MAN

well, by megadose, I meant adding creatine to a diet that has no use for it. One could have a long happy life without ever supplementing creatine.

Your muscles are already packed with creatine, which is why when you force more in by "supplementing" it, it has the effects it has.

Uhm no.

Actually creatine is first strand of energy you use during energy release in the molecular structure of your muscles. It lasts approximately for the first second of your first rep. Supplementing creatine is to allow the strand of energy to replenish at a quicker rate.

No your body is not packed of creatine, thats why you supplement it. Your body produces MINIMAL amounts of creatine.