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Old 04-28-2002, 08:06 PM   #1
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Would this hurt the protein ?

I found this recipe on this site. Wouldnt heating the powder damage the protein ? Or would it still be fine ? Any input is appriciated.



STRAWBERRY & BANANA MEAL REPLACEMENT BARS

Makes 6 bars

1 cup raw oatmeal
5 scoops of strawberry protein powder
1/4 cup fat free cream cheese
1/2 cup non fat dry milk powder
2 egg whites
1/4 cup water
1 1/2 bananas, mashed
2 tsp. canola oil (this is the secret to moist bars instead of the traditional dry bar)


Preheat oven to 325 degrees. Spray a 9x9 square pan with cooking spray & set
aside. In a med.ium bowl combine oatmeal, Protein powder & dry milk. Set aside. In another bowl beat together with an electric hand mixer, cream cheese, egg whites, bananas, water & oil. Add the oat mixture & continue to beat until the two are combined. Pour batter into the prepared pan & bake for 30-35 minutes or until toothpick comes out clean.

Calories-203, Protein 22g, Carbs 22g, Fats 3g
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:39 PM   #2
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if it doesnt hurt the protein in store bought protein bars then it wouldnt hurt it to cook it at home.
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Old 04-30-2002, 03:54 PM   #3
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if it doesnt hurt the protein in store bought protein bars then it wouldnt hurt it to cook it at home.

Well it does hurt the protiein in bars, thats why you won't find a bar that has any decent amount of quality protein

They're loaded with WPC, and college, and hydrolized 'protein'..which means you don't know what it is. Its a 'hot dog' basically

2 things damage and denature the structure of protein,
1. heat.
2. acid.

Thats the reason. Thats why you go out and buy 'undenatured' proteins and hydrolized protiens so they don't sit in all the stomach acid for a long time.

A good example is the egg white. You start with a clear liquid and when you add heat it becomes a white and rubbery mass. - It was denatured and the changed in conformatin.

I think any company that suggests you can heat or cook their protein has either already done it and ripping you of, or they just don't care.
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even if protein is denatured the amino acids still remain intact
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Denature.

Yes, but its the Structure of the protein molecule that makes the difference. Why do you think companies go to all the trouble of making "Un-denatured" protein.

For example, the protein structure of a rec blood cell is very complex, and the disease sickle cell anemia is devistating and life threatening.

The only difference between a healthy person and one with sickle cell anemia is a single amino acid in a chain of hundreds.

just one puts a person at risk of death. The same thing with free form amino acids. If they were reall that effective, we could just guzzle some down an start packing on muscle. But we all know it isn't as easy as downing L-"whatever" suppleents. Structure is function, when you change it, you lower the quality of the protein.


If you don't beleive me, Cut out all protein and go an buy some free form amino acids and just add the rest of your calories from carbs and fat. If your theory is correct, the results should be the same.
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I tried that recipie and it absolutely tasted like ****! My dog wouldn't even eat it!
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Ok if all that is true than wouldn't cooking of any sort damage the protein. Like chicken breast, egg whites etc... You can't tell me that you should get all your protein from shakes. What are you supposed to do eat the food raw, I think not.
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Ok if all that is true than wouldn't cooking of any sort damage the protein. Like chicken breast, egg whites etc... You can't tell me that you should get all your protein from shakes. What are you supposed to do eat the food raw, I think not.
Well yes it does denature it. Cooking denatures protein. Why do you think BBers in the old days ate Raw eggs? They sure as hell didn't do it cause it tastes better. I don't mean to say the the protein is straight up usless, but its not as good. Cooking lower the BV for starters.

But whey has a number of immunoglobulins and other structural proteins tht are absorbed in tact. Thats one of the tings that makes whey a great muscle building sorce of protein.

You can get you protein from where every like, but if you go out of your way to buy whey protein supplements that have been carefully maufactured with out heat, why would you cook it?
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