Cindy Sheehan puts the MOAS to Bill O'LIElly

[catmando]

That's Mother Of All Smackdowns.

Cindy Sheehan: Get Off It, Bill O'Reilly
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Fri, 05/04/2007 - 11:09am. Guest Contribution

A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION
by Cindy Sheehan

A recent Harris Poll indicated that only 22% of Americans support George's war of terror. I suspect the less than one-fourth of our country who are still in favor of the hopeless mess that BushCo has tragically involved the USA gets all of their "news" from Fox News.

I have mostly kept silent about Fox and their role as co-conspirators with the Bush Regime because I believe the organization is too ridiculous to even waste ink or breath on. MSNBC, CNN, and the networks are not much better, but they are not as openly pro-war or pro-BushCo as Fox. There are also fabulous Internet sites (Media Matters and Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly) that do a great job of pointing out the errors and outright lies of Fox News. Robert Greenwald's Outfoxed and Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them are great commentaries on the "fair and balanced" network. O'Reilly is regularly Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World" for his hateful and idiotic rhetoric.

I don't get a chance to watch TV very often, and when I do get a chance, I can give an almost 100% guarantee that I am not watching Fox News. When I broke my vow to never do Fox and went on Sean Hannity's show, he was amazed to find out that I never watch his program and wasn't nearly as pre-occupied with him as he seems to be with me. I hear things through the grapevine, but as my mom always said, I "consider the source."

However, saying all that, I have had enough of Bill O'Reilly's obsession with me and his unfair and unbalanced program. I almost wrote a piece called, "Oh Really, O'Reilly, " when the Bush Mob mouthpiece was on the David Letterman show and when Letterman stuck up for me, Bill said: "No one goes on my show and calls terrorists "freedom fighters." He is one slimy operator because I am sure what he said was true... no one goes on his show and calls terrorists "freedom fighters," but the statement is so misleading because it leads one to believe that I have ever been on his show and have called terrorists "freedom fighters."

The only time I have watched O'Reilly's show was recently when my dear friend Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army, Ret. was on the program. She was ostensibly on to comment about the Geneva Conventions regarding prisoners of war during the time when Iran was holding some British Marines as prisoners. O'Reilly turned it into brouhaha about Ann being an "America hater." When Ann saliently pointed out the fact that she had served her country in the U.S. Army for 29 years and asked O'Reilly how many years he served, he had her mike cut. After that episode, I went back to working on my computer and a few minutes later, O'Reilly was talking about me and how I had the "big money" of George Soros behind me and that's why he had to do his best to "expose" me every chance he gets. At that point, I looked up at my assistant sitting next to me and told her to get George Soros on the horn and tell him that his "big money" was about three years late and we really could use the funds. First of all, I don't know George Soros and secondly, what business is it of O'Reilly's what Soros does with his money? According to O'Reilly, George Soros funds every politician, political cause, and wields huge influence over us. In my experience and travels, I have never met one person who was reaping the fabled rewards of a Soros association!

So far, I have ignored this and stayed above the Fox news defamation of my character. It would not take a moral giant the equivalent of a Mother Teresa to stay above Fox News. They have no conscious or credibility. I can't think of many people lower than Fox News, their employees and frequent neo-con contributors as Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, William Kristol, etc. However when I recently received an e-mail from a person with the email address of "G.I. Joe" who claimed to be an Iraq war vet accusing me of calling terrorists "freedom fighters" because he had just heard it on the "news," was when I decided The O'Reilly Factor had to go.

I know for a fact the evening G.I. Joe wrote me, O'Reilly brought that old lie back up. He can't think of anything new and he can't defend an indefensible criminal regime, so he has to rehash old lies and character assassinations of me and other "liberals" to keep his program afloat. I answered the soldier and explained carefully to him the distinction between a "terrorist" and an occupied person in a sovereign country who is fighting for his/her freedom from an oppressive foreign country. I tried to get G.I. Joe to recall his lessons about the American Revolution when our founding fathers and mothers did the same thing. I mourn that G.I. Joe watches Fox News and is so abysmally misinformed and immorally manipulated.

The person who isn't misinformed though, is Mr. Bill O'Reilly. If he had a conscience, he should be ashamed of leading 22% of this country astray. The Jesus of Fox News thinks it is okay to kill innocent people for profit, but my Jesus said: "woe to he that causes one of the little ones to stumble. It would be better for that person to tie a millstone around his neck and be sunk in the depth of the sea." (Mt 18:6). O'Reilly and the rest of the bad shepherds at Fox News are thankfully seeing their flock decline, but they are abrogating their responsibility to properly inform their viewers and are making a mockery out of objective reporting.

There was a successful campaign led against BushCo and war critic, Don Imus, waged through his advertisers. He was taken off the air and I say it's about time that grass roots progressives pull the plug on Fox News beginning with the hate-filled rhetoric of Bill O'Reilly.

It is not because of his public libel of me; I have often found his weird attraction to me a little humorous and very sad, but because of G.I. Joe, I am calling for a boycott of every sponsor of Bill O'Reilly's show. When his empty spin zone is shut down, hopefully the rest of the purveyors of Bush propaganda will get the message.

We voters, activists, and grass roots peace and justice workers are in the considerable majority and we are also consumers. It's about time we used the power of OUR purse strings to hold the "vast wasteland" of Fox News accountable. Then maybe, just maybe, we can get information from our mainstream news sources and not right-wing infotainment. This is something fairly easy to do, and besides a letter to Fox News telling them why you are not supporting O'Reilly and his sponsors, we can focus on what's important: ending the occupation of Iraq and holding Fox's best friends, the Bush Administration, accountable.

Bill O'Reilly: get off your high horse and get off of our TV screens!

[Gadsden]

ah yes...freedom of speech and opinion. it's alright as long as you agree with us.


if you remember correctly, the New York Times also falsely reported WMDs...

[HatesFat]

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

ah yes...freedom of speech and opinion. it's alright as long as you agree with us.


if you remember correctly, the New York Times also falsely reported WMDs...

Yeah, the New York Times is so much like Bill O'Reilly, i mean the two are completely analogous, they could almost be twins.


In fact, the NY times continued for FOUR YEARS to act like idiots even after the war started, and has said many BLINDINGLY STUPID things on all kinds of other stuff such as the following:

"I just wish Katrina had only hit the United Nations building, nothing else, just had flooded them out, and I wouldn't have rescued them."

"So anyway I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples really hard, kinda' kissing your neck from behind...and then I would take the other hand with the falafel thing and I'd just put it on your p***y but you'd have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business..."

"If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right?"

Yeah, NY Times sounds JUST LIKE Bill O'Reilly. I LOVE IT. Bill saying stupid crap MUST be ok because NY Times said stupid crap once.. we think..

Man, where do these people come from?

[dreambig73]

All I have to say is it's a good thing no one actually takes Cindy Sheehan seriously. That woman is a nut-job.

[BVAV]

Originally Posted by dreambig73

All I have to say is it's a good thing no one actually takes Cindy Sheehan seriously. That woman is a nut-job.

What did she say that was so unreasonable?

[Lothar]

So Sheehan is commenting on O'Reilly now?

Who's paying this broad?

[Geno]

Bill and Cindy. Two of the worst scumbags history has to offer us.

[MediaDeit]

Originally Posted by HatesFat

Yeah, the New York Times is so much like Bill O'Reilly, i mean the two are completely analogous, they could almost be twins.


In fact, the NY times continued for FOUR YEARS to act like idiots even after the war started, and has said many BLINDINGLY STUPID things on all kinds of other stuff such as the following:

"I just wish Katrina had only hit the United Nations building, nothing else, just had flooded them out, and I wouldn't have rescued them."

"So anyway I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples really hard, kinda' kissing your neck from behind...and then I would take the other hand with the falafel thing and I'd just put it on your p***y but you'd have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business..."

"If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again, all right?"

Yeah, NY Times sounds JUST LIKE Bill O'Reilly. I LOVE IT. Bill saying stupid crap MUST be ok because NY Times said stupid crap once.. we think..

Man, where do these people come from?

O'Rielly has an opinion show, you ever read the New York Times editorials? Sometimes they have some crazy writing editorials.

[Lothar]

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

O'Rielly has an opinion show, you ever read the New York Times editorials? Sometimes they have some crazy writing editorials.

EXACTLY!!!

It's like these crazy people actually think he's a journalist or news anchor...he's an opinionist...says so himself. That's it. It's just like an editorial in a newspaper.

Fukkin' A. I thought liberals were supposed to be "liberal".

[MediaDeit]

Originally Posted by Geno

Bill and Cindy. Two of the worst scumbags history has to offer us.

You don't want to say that, I called Sheehan worthless and Purge negged me saying the following comment

"Have you ever lost a family member in a bullsh*t war? Didn't think so. How can you know what a gold-star mother like her is going through?"

He thinks because she lost a son, she has the right to say and do whatever she wants and people should not be allowed to express their opinions about her if they are negative. That is Purge for you.

[BVAV]

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

He thinks because she lost a son, she has the right to say and do whatever she wants and people should not be allowed to express their opinions about her if they are negative. That is Purge for you.

Sort of the way conservative crazies use war veterens. Can't question a vertern.

Unless of course the veteren decides to oppose the war then it's a free for all.

[lordofchaos]

Originally Posted by BVAV

What did she say that was so unreasonable?

which time that she opened her mouth? I think the most unreasonable thing she has said has been anything about her son seeing as her husband (well ex-husband now as he divorced her due to this crap) and many of the families friends have gone on the record and said she has been talking out of her ass about him and his situation. Especially seeing as he volunteered for duty in Iraq and then signed up to extend his stay in the military and in Iraq.

[catmando]

Originally Posted by MediaDeit

You don't want to say that, I called Sheehan worthless and Purge negged me saying the following comment

"Have you ever lost a family member in a bullsh*t war? Didn't think so. How can you know what a gold-star mother like her is going through?"

He thinks because she lost a son, she has the right to say and do whatever she wants and people should not be allowed to express their opinions about her if they are negative. That is Purge for you.

"You have to spread some rep around before you can neg this a$$hole again".

[PSMF]

Originally Posted by HatesFat

"So anyway I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples really hard, kinda' kissing your neck from behind...and then I would take the other hand with the falafel thing and I'd just put it on your p***y but you'd have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business..."

A true Conservative?

[BVAV]

Originally Posted by lordofchaos

which time that she opened her mouth? I think the most unreasonable thing she has said has been anything about her son seeing as her husband (well ex-husband now as he divorced her due to this crap) and many of the families friends have gone on the record and said she has been talking out of her ass about him and his situation. Especially seeing as he volunteered for duty in Iraq and then signed up to extend his stay in the military and in Iraq.

So what? She's still entitled to her opinion even if ther husband doesn't share it. Whether her son would have agreed with her or not is irrelevant as well. It doesn't negate that she feels his death was wasteful. She ultimately is speaking for herself not on behalf of her family.

Still I don't get which of her assertions are unreasonable.

[PSMF]

Originally Posted by catmando

"You have to spread some rep around before you can neg this a$$hole again".

rofl catmmando have great sense of humor

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by BVAV

So what? She's still entitled to her opinion even if ther husband doesn't share it. Whether her son would have agreed with her or not is irrelevant as well. It doesn't negate that she feels his death was wasteful. She ultimately is speaking for herself not on behalf of her family.

Still I don't get which of her assertions are unreasonable.

Uh......

She's using her son as a TOOL to push her ant-war, anti-Bush stance. That's a complete disgrace to his memory and what he fought and died for. Her opinion means the same as any other person but since she lost her son who was magically tricked into re-enlisting WHILE IN A COMBAT ZONE, everyone feels sorry for her and listens to her crappy non-logic filled hate speech.

It's beyond me how you don't see that but I guess blindness is a tool of the far left and far right.

[HatesFat]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Uh......

She's using her son as a TOOL to push her ant-war, anti-Bush stance. That's a complete disgrace to his memory and what he fought and died for. Her opinion means the same as any other person but since she lost her son who was magically tricked into re-enlisting WHILE IN A COMBAT ZONE, everyone feels sorry for her and listens to her crappy non-logic filled hate speech.

It's beyond me how you don't see that but I guess blindness is a tool of the far left and far right.

Fine, her motivations are stupid. What about her assertions..

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by HatesFat

Fine, her motivations are stupid. What about her assertions..

Her opinion means the same as any other anti-war anti-Bush person. I don't agree with 99% of it but that's the good ol' freedom of choice. However, I refuse to listen to someone who gains their popularity and has their voice heard because they use their dead son as a method of getting attention. It's disgusting, vile and she's a wretched creature.

[SupaDJDiesel]

Originally Posted by catmando

The only time I have watched O'Reilly's show was recently when my dear friend Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army, Ret. was on the program. She was ostensibly on to comment about the Geneva Conventions regarding prisoners of war during the time when Iran was holding some British Marines as prisoners. O'Reilly turned it into brouhaha about Ann being an "America hater." When Ann saliently pointed out the fact that she had served her country in the U.S. Army for 29 years and asked O'Reilly how many years he served, he had her mike cut.

No one saw anything wrong with this? The extreme right gives all this crap about supporting our troops, but in reality, abuses members of our military. How can you question someone's patriotism when they serve the Army for 29 years? This sort of **** is exactly what turned me 100% away from these disgusting neocons. The sad thing is they started in exactly the same way, GWB became president because of the smear campaign directed against John McCain. Since their shameless attacks on Max Cleeland, I have almost been embarassed to be a registered republican. During Vietnam, George went on a coke and alcohol binge, and Cheney had "other priorities in the 60's", yet they have the audacity to attack veterans that gave their all. Furthermore, they somehow get a substantial part of the military's vote, which I cannot for anything understand.

Then again it's partially our own fault. Though I don't personally know anyone who watches the show, there has to be enough dumb people watching to keep it profitable.

[BVAV]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Her opinion means the same as any other anti-war anti-Bush person. I don't agree with 99% of it but that's the good ol' freedom of choice. However, I refuse to listen to someone who gains their popularity and has their voice heard because they use their dead son as a method of getting attention. It's disgusting, vile and she's a wretched creature.

Your accusations could be construed as vile and disgusting. Who are you to accuse her of using her son? If she were pro war you'd have no problem with her using her son.

[nordicnacho]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Her opinion means the same as any other anti-war anti-Bush person. I don't agree with 99% of it but that's the good ol' freedom of choice. However, I refuse to listen to someone who gains their popularity and has their voice heard because they use their dead son as a method of getting attention. It's disgusting, vile and she's a wretched creature.

She gave her only son to a bull**** war based on lies and half truths. She has given alot more then GW Bush and 5 deferment Dick Cheney.

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by SupaDJDiesel

No one saw anything wrong with this? The extreme right gives all this crap about supporting our troops, but in reality, abuses members of our military. How can you question someone's patriotism when they serve the Army for 29 years? This sort of **** is exactly what turned me 100% away from these disgusting neocons. The sad thing is they started in exactly the same way, GWB became president because of the smear campaign directed against John McCain. Since their shameless attacks on Max Cleeland, I have almost been embarassed to be a registered republican. During Vietnam, George went on a coke and alcohol binge, and Cheney had "other priorities in the 60's", yet they have the audacity to attack veterans that gave their all. Furthermore, they somehow get a substantial part of the military's vote, which I cannot for anything understand.

Then again it's partially our own fault. Though I don't personally know anyone who watches the show, there has to be enough dumb people watching to keep it profitable.

I agree with some of this.

As for the military vote part, it's really the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion. The republican administration cut veterans benefits every year they were in power yet military people excel at keeping their mouth shut and dealing with it. However, the other option is Hillary Clinton? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? I'd rather have 10 more years of GWB than have any of those people remotely near the White House.

[BVAV]

Originally Posted by SupaDJDiesel

No one saw anything wrong with this? The extreme right gives all this crap about supporting our troops, but in reality, abuses members of our military. How can you question someone's patriotism when they serve the Army for 29 years? This sort of **** is exactly what turned me 100% away from these disgusting neocons. The sad thing is they started in exactly the same way, GWB became president because of the smear campaign directed against John McCain. Since their shameless attacks on Max Cleeland, I have almost been embarassed to be a registered republican. During Vietnam, George went on a coke and alcohol binge, and Cheney had "other priorities in the 60's", yet they have the audacity to attack veterans that gave their all. Furthermore, they somehow get a substantial part of the military's vote, which I cannot for anything understand.

Then again it's partially our own fault. Though I don't personally know anyone who watches the show, there has to be enough dumb people watching to keep it profitable.

Most members on here are too irate at the mother of a dead soldier and her audacity to state her opinions to notice or care about the likes of bill oriley slandering a vetern.

[SupaDJDiesel]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

I agree with some of this.

As for the military vote part, it's really the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion. The republican administration cut veterans benefits every year they were in power yet military people excel at keeping their mouth shut and dealing with it. However, the other option is Hillary Clinton? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? I'd rather have 10 more years of GWB than have any of those people remotely near the White House.

The lesser of two evils is understandable. I personally voted Badnarik. Hopefully in this election we wont have to make such a grotesque choice.

[lordofchaos]

Originally Posted by BVAV

So what? She's still entitled to her opinion even if ther husband doesn't share it. Whether her son would have agreed with her or not is irrelevant as well. It doesn't negate that she feels his death was wasteful. She ultimately is speaking for herself not on behalf of her family.

Still I don't get which of her assertions are unreasonable.

She has asserted that her son didn't want to go to war in Iraq, was tricked into joining the military by recruiters who said he could serve stateside and go to college, and that he was planning on not re-enlisting..

So basically, her false assertions about her son are what I disagree with, and basically I see it as her trying to profit off of the death of her son and stomping on his grave.... I have no problem with her voicing her opinion, I just really don't like to see anyone trampling under the memory of a "loved one" by lying about their death and life to profit after they die...

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by BVAV

Your accusations could be construed as vile and disgusting. Who are you to accuse her of using her son? If she were pro war you'd have no problem with her using her son.

You're an idiot. (yes ad hominem) (yes true)

I'll try one last time to break this down so even your small brain can understand it.

HER SON fought, re-enlisted and died for what he believed in. His mother, who didn't give a **** about him, used him as a tool to push her own agenda, which happened to be the exact opposite of what he believed. If she went around saying to support the troops and used her son as an example, it would be different, because that's what he believed. You see? His memory would have been honored because she would have pushed forward what he believed. Instead, she pissed and **** all over his memory and pushes what she believes.

Is that easy enough for your low IQ to understand?

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by nordicnacho

She gave her only son to a bull**** war based on lies and half truths. She has given alot more then GW Bush and 5 deferment Dick Cheney.

You're also an idiot. (yes ad-hominem) (yes true)

In fact, you're so dumb that you don't warrant a real response because I'm pretty sure it would go right over your head.

[lordofchaos]

Originally Posted by BVAV

Most members on here are too irate at the mother of a dead soldier and her audacity to state her opinions to notice or care about the likes of bill oriley slandering a vetern.

or, it could be that many of us don't watch Oriley? I mean, I can't remember the last time I watched anything other than breaking news of some event (like the VAtech shootings) or a normal news cast, not op-ed piece, on either CNN or fox news... I am only speaking for myself here of course, but I can honestly say that this is the first I have heard of this incident...

[swimmd99]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Uh......

She's using her son as a TOOL to push her ant-war, anti-Bush stance. That's a complete disgrace to his memory and what he fought and died for. Her opinion means the same as any other person but since she lost her son who was magically tricked into re-enlisting WHILE IN A COMBAT ZONE, everyone feels sorry for her and listens to her crappy non-logic filled hate speech.

It's beyond me how you don't see that but I guess blindness is a tool of the far left and far right.

it's a defense mechanism referred to as sublimation. She is taking an event that affected her emotionally and using it for what she believes will result in a good change. This is no different from a parent who loses a kid to a drunk driver and joins MADD and speaks out against drunk driving.

We can criticize all we want but we truly don't know what she is going through. I have listened to propoganda against her as well as what comes from her mouth. She is an outspoken critic and as an American she expresses the freedom to do so. Granted it is soldiers who secure that same freedom which throws in a sense of irony.

I'm not saying I agree with any or all of what she says but she has the right to criticize, hold demonstrations and speak out. The war has been horribly mismanaged, that's undeniable. We have been lied to, deceived and the government really hopes we're all stupid enough not to realize. That's just my opinion.

I fully support military men and women and I will be working in a VA hospital for several rotations come this summer. I support the soldiers fighting and hope they come home safely. The ones who come home injured near where I will work may see me in the hospital wards and I will do my best to heal them