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05-03-2007, 11:49 PM
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if god's such a nice guy, why do animals feel pain?
what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain? i'm know, us humans are just evil sinnerz and ****, but what about animals? if there's no heaven or hell for animals because of their innocence, why do they have to feel pain? and don't tell me they NEED to in order to know when something is causing them harm, unless you don't think your god is smart enough to make animals react to harmful situations w/o pain sensors.
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05-03-2007, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AKR
what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain? i'm know, us humans are just evil sinnerz and ****, but what about animals? if there's no heaven or hell for animals because of their innocence, why do they have to feel pain? and don't tell me they NEED to in order to know when something is causing them harm, unless you don't think your god is smart enough to make animals react to harmful situations w/o pain sensors.
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05-03-2007, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKR
what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain? i'm know, us humans are just evil sinnerz and ****, but what about animals? if there's no heaven or hell for animals because of their innocence, why do they have to feel pain? and don't tell me they NEED to in order to know when something is causing them harm, unless you don't think your god is smart enough to make animals react to harmful situations w/o pain sensors.
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trust me guy I have got a big thread coming up detailing on how much an ass God is..watch for it..(itll be like 2 days...)
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05-03-2007, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKR
what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain? i'm know, us humans are just evil sinnerz and ****, but what about animals? if there's no heaven or hell for animals because of their innocence, why do they have to feel pain? and don't tell me they NEED to in order to know when something is causing them harm, unless you don't think your god is smart enough to make animals react to harmful situations w/o pain sensors.
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Well, if I may expand this further. Why do babies feel pain? The baby has committed no sin yet. Besides, although we humans are sinners, even the Bible says that there is some persecution that humans face that they do not deserve. Why do people face undeserved persecution? Why do the wicked prosper and the humble suffer? Why are some people born rich? Why are some people born into a world of famine? Why is that as we have this conversation over the internet in our comfortable rooms, as we speak there is a child somewhere breathing their final breaths, their body utterly famished and exhausted of all resources?
The conclusion: God will bring all things into account. As David (or maybe Isaiah, I'm not crystal clear on the verse) said, one day the lion will be grazing along side the lamb, because God loves all creation.
Last edited by Beatitude; 05-04-2007 at 12:17 AM.
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05-04-2007, 12:09 AM
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*grabs violin and starts playing a sad sad song*
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05-04-2007, 12:12 AM
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*grabs violin and starts playing a sad sad song*
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LOL. You crack me up dude.
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05-04-2007, 12:19 AM
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*grabs violin and starts playing a sad sad song*
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rofl i physically started laughing at this one.
but honestly I think it's a question worth asking.
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05-04-2007, 12:21 AM
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what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain?
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05-04-2007, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Beatitude
lion will be grazing along side the lamb, because God loves all creation.
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I agree somewhat with the thread starter.
Damn man, that lion and lamb are gonna be in too much pain to be grazing along.
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05-04-2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Beatitude
Well, if I may expand this further. Why do babies feel pain? The baby has committed no sin yet. Besides, although we humans are sinners, even the Bible says that there is some persecution that humans face that they do not deserve. Why do people face undeserved persecution? Why do the wicked prosper and the humble suffer? Why are some people born rich? Why are some people born into a world of famine? Why is that as we have this conversation over the internet in our comfortable rooms, as we speak there is a child somewhere breathing their final breaths, their body utterly famished and exhausted of all resources?
The conclusion: God will bring all things into account. As David (or maybe Isaiah, I'm not crystal clear on the verse) said, one day the lion will be grazing along side the lamb, because God loves all creation.
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according to your religion, babies will become sinners, hence the pain. unless god strikes them down first so he can drink the sweet milk of their tears. and the whole david/lion/lamb is not literal. you do not become a lion or lamb. to the OP, animals feel pain, otherwise, they wouldn't taste as good.
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05-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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according to your religion, babies will become sinners, hence the pain. unless god strikes them down first so he can drink the sweet milk of their tears.
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05-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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it's our tears, violator009, that give god his great power.
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05-04-2007, 12:24 AM
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trust me guy I have got a big thread coming up detailing on how much an ass God is..watch for it..(itll be like 2 days...)
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You're a freak.
You call God an ass, yet you don't believe God exists. I see a problem here.
And it's you.
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05-04-2007, 12:27 AM
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and the whole david/lion/lamb is not literal. you do not become a lion or lamb.
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The verse was referring to creation.
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05-04-2007, 12:28 AM
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rofl Violator what is up with your pictures.
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05-04-2007, 12:30 AM
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You're a freak.
You call God an ass, yet you don't believe God exists. I see a problem here.
And it's you.
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uh I dont believe in God..but that still means I can point to the God you guys absolutely nut over in the Bible and show how you guys believe in an Ass of a God
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05-04-2007, 12:30 AM
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coz god sez!!!1 omg u guyz will never understand!
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05-04-2007, 12:31 AM
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If animals didnt feel pain then they wouldnt survive.
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05-04-2007, 12:34 AM
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Pain is a double edged sword. It hurts, but it helps avoid doing/interacting with things that cause that pain and could be harmful to you. If you couldn't feel pain, you could severely burn yourself when grabbing something hot and you wouldn't know. That wouldn't be too good for you.
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05-04-2007, 12:34 AM
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You're a freak.
You call God an ass, yet you don't believe God exists. I see a problem here.
And it's you.
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LOL. You guys are on a roll tonight.
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05-04-2007, 12:39 AM
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love this song I hope it fits like an answer
George Michael - Praying For Time
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF THE OPEN HAND
THEY WILL NOT BE THE LAST
LOOK AROUND NOW
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF THE BEGGARS AND THE CHOOSERS
THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE HUNGRY MAN
WHOSE PLACE IS IN THE PAST
HAND IN HAND WITH IGNORANCE
AND LEGITIMATE EXCUSES
THE RICH DECLARE THEMSELVES POOR
AND MOST OF US ARE NOT SURE
IF WE HAVE TOO MUCH
BUT WE?LL TAKE OUR CHANCES
BECAUSE GOD?S STOPPED KEEPING SCORE
I GUESS SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY
HE MUST HAVE LET US ALL OUT TO PLAY
TURNED HIS BACK AND ALL GOD?S CHILDREN
CREPT OUT THE BACK DOOR
AND IT?S HARD TO LOVE, THERE?S SO MUCH TO HATE
HANGING ON TO HOPE
WHEN THERE IS NO HOPE TO SPEAK OF
AND THE WOUNDED SKIES ABOVE SAY IT?S MUCH TOO LATE
WELL MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL BE PRAYING FOR TIME
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF THE EMPTY HAND
OH YOU HOLD ON TO WHAT YOU CAN
AND CHARITY IS A COAT YOU WEAR TWICE A YEAR
THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE GUILTY MAN
YOUR TELEVISION TAKES A STAND
AND YOU FIND THAT WHAT WAS OVER THERE
IS OVER HERE
SO YOU SCREAM FROM BEHIND YOUR DOOR
SAY "WHAT?S MINE IS MINE AND NOT YOURS"
I MAY HAVE TOO MUCH BUT I?LL TAKE MY CHANCES
BECAUSE GOD?S STOPPED KEEPING SCORE
AND YOU CLING TO THE THINGS THEY SOLD YOU
DID YOU COVER YOUR EYES WHEN THEY TOLD YOU
THAT HE CAN?T COME BACK
BECAUSE HE HAS NO CHILDREN TO COME BACK FOR
IT?S HARD TO LOVE ,THERE?S SO MUCH TO HATE...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKR
what the f*ck did THEY do to deserve pain? i'm know, us humans are just evil sinnerz and ****, but what about animals? if there's no heaven or hell for animals because of their innocence, why do they have to feel pain? and don't tell me they NEED to in order to know when something is causing them harm, unless you don't think your god is smart enough to make animals react to harmful situations w/o pain sensors.
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Dude seriously almost every post you make you swear, do you wake up every morning pissed off? Lol, maybe you might wanna look into anger management...
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Dude seriously almost every post you make you swear, do you wake up every morning pissed off? Lol, maybe you might wanna look into anger management...
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**** **** **** **** donkey balls fuker. And I'm actually very happy right now...
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05-04-2007, 12:48 AM
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now take your violin hehe (NO EMO)
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Pain isn't always malevolent, sometimes it's just to maintain the cycle of life.
For example, think about the pain of hunger, or bodily need for rest. If animals didn't feel pain, they wouldn't know when to eat, sleep...or run away from danger.
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Dude seriously almost every post you make you swear, do you wake up every morning pissed off? Lol, maybe you might wanna look into anger management...
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Isn't it obvious? He's in pain
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Are you aware... some humans have a disorder where they can't feel pain. it's called congenital analgia. This is very ****ed up, they often burn themselves, cuts, bruises, broken bones, bite bits of their tongue off etc without even knowing it.
Pain is good! (no christian)
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Pain is the product of intelligent design, it is the bodies natural defence system.
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hahaha.... ^ When "Intelligent Designm" goes horribly wrong.
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hahaha.... ^ When "Intelligent Designm" goes horribly wrong.
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Please do elaborate
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