keto is awesome?

[gainmusclefast]

ok i have been doing keto 3-4 weeks and i started out at 170lb

today i weighed in at 160

after the first week or so i dropped to about 164 from water/etc

after the first week that weekend i didnt have a carbup, i just ate above maintenance cals to give myself a break from the low cals during the week,

then after my second week i had a carb up, and it went good ate lots of oatmeal , rice cakes (yummy) and some low fat triscuit chips or something, they was great!

so during my 3rd week i felt good all week, so i decided not to start carbing up every weekend and try to go every other week,

i think i can handle it but its hard, i have been tired and need a carbup soon haha, and i got some new food i wanna eat, thats clean! just has carbs in it


also i have a question, since this is a good diet to keep muscle, i feel i might be losing some... idk prolly just losing fat making my arms look smaller haha

i been lifting 4 times a week, and after each weight lifting session i do 30min high incline walking, then get home and slam down some eggs, is this too much cardio? thanks!!!!!!

[magnumfreak]

Due to my schedule I have to do my cardio after my weights. I do about 30 minutes without issue. No loss of muscle or strength.

I know what you mean about feeling like you have lost muscle. Yesterday I felt small and I had a mental flash of losing all of the hard earned muscle I have now. So I took out the measuring tape and found out that the only thing that has shrunk is my waist. Arms, quads, calves, etc are all within .25 inches of where I started.

[gainmusclefast]

Originally Posted by magnumfreak

Due to my schedule I have to do my cardio after my weights. I do about 30 minutes without issue. No loss of muscle or strength.

I know what you mean about feeling like you have lost muscle. Yesterday I felt small and I had a mental flash of losing all of the hard earned muscle I have now. So I took out the measuring tape and found out that the only thing that has shrunk is my waist. Arms, quads, calves, etc are all within .25 inches of where I started.

yea haha, its even harder when ur little brother is always calling me small lol and saying where all ur muscle go, he always talking smack

[ironstrife]

keto is the most protein and muscle sparing diet!!! Stay worry free bros!

[gfundaro]

The flat look/feeling is just being empty of glycogen. Believe me, all your muscle is still there, and it's very easy to maintain muscle on a cut; I even put some on last month :-) You'll look full for a couple days after your carbup, then you'll probably go back to feeling flat again. But don't worry about it, all you're losing as fat as long as you're eating enough!

[Mainframe]

Originally Posted by loseweightfast

ok i have been doing keto 3-4 weeks and i started out at 170lb

today i weighed in at 160

after the first week or so i dropped to about 164 from water/etc

after the first week that weekend i didnt have a carbup, i just ate above maintenance cals to give myself a break from the low cals during the week,

then after my second week i had a carb up, and it went good ate lots of oatmeal , rice cakes (yummy) and some low fat triscuit chips or something, they was great!

so during my 3rd week i felt good all week, so i decided not to start carbing up every weekend and try to go every other week,

i think i can handle it but its hard, i have been tired and need a carbup soon haha, and i got some new food i wanna eat, thats clean! just has carbs in it


also i have a question, since this is a good diet to keep muscle, i feel i might be losing some... idk prolly just losing fat making my arms look smaller haha

i been lifting 4 times a week, and after each weight lifting session i do 30min high incline walking, then get home and slam down some eggs, is this too much cardio? thanks!!!!!!

The fat your are losing also make it seem like you are losing size but you are probably gaining definition.

As far as carbs ups, maybe try a smaller weekly carb up over a bi-weekly first?

As far as cardio, it's probably fine. I'll probably get yelled at for saying this but if you feel recovered, you might want to add a fifth day of weights. It helps you work one or two body parts a week extra and has been helpful for me.

Also, creatine has helped me gain some pump which is very motivating and helps my lifts a lot.

[gainmusclefast]

Originally Posted by skyline1731

keto is the most protein and muscle sparing diet!!! Stay worry free bros!

excellent!

Originally Posted by gfundaro

The flat look/feeling is just being empty of glycogen. Believe me, all your muscle is still there, and it's very easy to maintain muscle on a cut; I even put some on last month :-) You'll look full for a couple days after your carbup, then you'll probably go back to feeling flat again. But don't worry about it, all you're losing as fat as long as you're eating enough!

good, cause right now they not look so good, i cant wait to dig into some carbs this saturday! i got a new food i been wanting to eat forever! peanut butter and jelly sandwiches! yum yum

Originally Posted by Mainframe

The fat your are losing also make it seem like you are losing size but you are probably gaining definition.

As far as carbs ups, maybe try a smaller weekly carb up over a bi-weekly first?

As far as cardio, it's probably fine. I'll probably get yelled at for saying this but if you feel recovered, you might want to add a fifth day of weights. It helps you work one or two body parts a week extra and has been helpful for me.

Also, creatine has helped me gain some pump which is very motivating and helps my lifts a lot.

good, i hope so! yea i was thinking to do small ones, but i dont know how small, if im eating around 1900-2000 cal how many cal u think i should take in on a weekly carb up? then how much if i do every other week?

yea i was thinking of starting to do 15min incline walking first thing as soon as i wake up cause i bought a treadmill, and yes i planned on making another day for weights just waiting for my body to adjust because im still sore

[gfundaro]

Careful with the PB and J....on carbups you invert your macros, so it's 60% carbs, 30% protein, and 10% fat...that PB&J might be pretty high in fat from the PB. I don't even eat PB on my carbups, all my fat comes from chicken/tuna.
My last carbup went great, I gained 5 lbs (glycogen and water, not fat ;-)) and I ate 1g protein per pound of body weight, and 8-9 g of carbs per kg. of lean body mass (your weight - weight of your body fat, divided by 2.2) which was about 400 g. of carbs. I didn't really watch my fats because everything I ate was lean. I do a 12 hour carbup every two weeks, but you can do more since you're larger and male. And if you can't eat all that food, it's ok, I never do either.

[gainmusclefast]

Originally Posted by gfundaro

Careful with the PB and J....on carbups you invert your macros, so it's 60% carbs, 30% protein, and 10% fat...that PB&J might be pretty high in fat from the PB. I don't even eat PB on my carbups, all my fat comes from chicken/tuna.
My last carbup went great, I gained 5 lbs (glycogen and water, not fat ;-)) and I ate 1g protein per pound of body weight, and 8-9 g of carbs per kg. of lean body mass (your weight - weight of your body fat, divided by 2.2) which was about 400 g. of carbs. I didn't really watch my fats because everything I ate was lean. I do a 12 hour carbup every two weeks, but you can do more since you're larger and male. And if you can't eat all that food, it's ok, I never do either.

i will do it for 12 hours on saturday, well from when i wake up till sleep,

i dont plan on eating a lot of em maybe just a couple i miss em

[Mainframe]

Originally Posted by loseweightfast

excellent!



good, cause right now they not look so good, i cant wait to dig into some carbs this saturday! i got a new food i been wanting to eat forever! peanut butter and jelly sandwiches! yum yum





good, i hope so! yea i was thinking to do small ones, but i dont know how small, if im eating around 1900-2000 cal how many cal u think i should take in on a weekly carb up? then how much if i do every other week?

yea i was thinking of starting to do 15min incline walking first thing as soon as i wake up cause i bought a treadmill, and yes i planned on making another day for weights just waiting for my body to adjust because im still sore

A carb up should be minimum 200 carbs after fiber. 200 is a good number to try and see if it is enough for you. It might be perfect, you might want more. Just have to try.

Creatine will help with the soreness as well as getting you more pumped. Good luck.

[jaim91]

Originally Posted by Mainframe

A carb up should be minimum 200 carbs after fiber. 200 is a good number to try and see if it is enough for you. It might be perfect, you might want more. Just have to try.

Creatine will help with the soreness as well as getting you more pumped. Good luck.

Where did you get 200 from? Just curious. Because if a person takes in 2400 calories on their carb up (which isn't that much compared to whatever their maintenance is), then 800 calories from carbs is only 30% which isn't that much in the gransd scheme of things.

[Mainframe]

Originally Posted by jaim91

Where did you get 200 from? Just curious. Because if a person takes in 2400 calories on their carb up (which isn't that much compared to whatever their maintenance is), then 800 calories from carbs is only 30% which isn't that much in the gransd scheme of things.

I'm not talking about a full carb up.

I'm just stating for those who do not carb up but wish to give their metabloism a kick start every once in a while, 200 grams is the minimum.

I believe I got the number from Eileen

[TheCaptain]

Originally Posted by magnumfreak

Due to my schedule I have to do my cardio after my weights. I do about 30 minutes without issue. No loss of muscle or strength.

I find this combinate works best for fat loss.

Body-For-Life and EAS made popular the routine of doing cardio on seperate days. But, prior to 1997 lmost all major training programs included cardio after your workouts.

[Eileen]

As far as I remember, 200g of carbs is the amount you need to reset leptin levels and keep your thyroid firing properly.

[ironstrife]

Originally Posted by Eileen

As far as I remember, 200g of carbs is the amount you need to reset leptin levels and keep your thyroid firing properly.

what is the source that number is based on?

[Eileen]

Can't remember exactly. It was one of the snippits I came across when I was doing research in half a dozen books on thyroid.

[Mainframe]

Sorry to put you on the spot Eileen. 200 works well for me

[jaim91]

Originally Posted by Eileen

As far as I remember, 200g of carbs is the amount you need to reset leptin levels and keep your thyroid firing properly.

Do sugar alcohols count towards this number? How often did the person say that it's necessary to take in 200 before leptin fakks?

[Eileen]

The book I read was dealing more with thyroid problems caused by constant dieting, and actually recommended apple pie and ice-cream. It wasn't aimed at body builders and didn't mention sugar alcohols.

Considering the way you carb-up, Jaime, I can't imagine it's a problem for you.

[jaim91]

Originally Posted by Eileen

Considering the way you carb-up, Jaime, I can't imagine it's a problem for you.

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I'd just like to thank the academy, my friends, family and of course, the entire keto forum for their help and support in my endeavours. I love you all.

[ZDub212]

Originally Posted by jaim91

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I'd just like to thank the academy, my friends, family and of course, the entire keto forum for their help and support in my endeavours. I love you all.

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