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Old 04-24-2007, 01:34 PM   #1
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Please criticize my diet (beginner)

Hello,

I'm trying to bulk right now from around 170lbs to around 200lbs for 6'1.

I'm trying to get more meals than usual, but still not 6 real meals (time to get used to that, I hope that's still fine).

I've been reading a lot of stuff (and the problem with me is that I would usually pick stuff from here and there, and try it without probably really getting the meaning behind it and so maybe screwing things up).


Please comment on my yesterday's meals:

Meal 1 (7AM)
1 black tea
1/2 bowl of old fashioned oat + 1/2 bowl of lean cereals (optimum organic, probably too much sugar still) + skim milk
2 kiwis
1 activSOMETHING yogurt to drink
2 multivitamin tables (one per day maximum)


Meal 2(10-12 AM, not a real meal more taking some food while working)
4-5 beef jerkies (prime ribs, 96% fat free)
2-3 hands of spanish nuts
1 yoplait smoothie (WAY too much sugar, but I still have some of them...)


Meal 3 (2:30PM)
4 celery branches + salt
1 one fish filet grilled with canola oil and lemon + one cup of brown rice
(should have take a non-fat yogurt but was running late so I skipped)


Meal 4 / Pre-work out (7PM)
One big glass and a half of a shake of:
Skim milk (about 1 glass and a half)
old fashioned oats (6 table spoons)
soy nuts (around 4 tables spoons)
raisins (half a glass)
1 serving of Whey (about 24gr of proteins)
(About a glass of it was left)


Meal 5 / Post-work out(9:30PM)
2 white sugars
One glass of skim milk + half a serving of whey


Meal 6
A salad with one endive, one red cabbage, some olives and peppers (probably about 10), a sixth of a low fat mozarella cheese, canola oil (probably a lot, like 12 tables spoons or something), cider vinegar (again probably a lot) and salt (a lot of the sauce was left at the end and not eaten, but if I put less I feel like it's dry... comments widely requested here).
0.5lb of Top sirloin grilled with herbs, little oil and salt
half a plate of freezed vegetables combo
One mango.



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Meal 2 (beef jerkies, nuts and yogurt) could have been replaced either by a bowl of cereals + skim milk or a shake. Same for meal 4.
None of my meals are really defined, I eat what I have and what I feel like, but comments on what I should change are welcomed.

Breakfast should not change too much (well I change the cereals not to get bored from always eating the same... trying to go for more proteins and less fat, I guess last time I did'nt look enough at sugars too). Lunch should be some cold vegies (a salad, radish, celeries, etc), a meat (beef, chicken, turkey or fish) and something else (rice, pasta, maybe some vegetables) and non-fat yogurt. Dinner should be some cold vegies, a meat (add eggs to the previous list, either hard or boiled) and hot vegies (if lentils not meat, maybe just some turkey ham or cheese), I also like pasta with milk at night but I guess it's not the best idea...

The shake can change a lot (adding bananas, cereals, cottage cheese, non-fat yogurt, etc).

I've looked at the ratios of carbs, lipides and proteins for yesterday, and it does not look too bad (well maybe a little too much fat coming from the oil, but as said before a lot was trashed in the end, and also too much carbs coming from the rice).



A little comment about me, maybe to help:
I've been doing bodybuilding for about a year and 3 months, then stopped for about 9 months (for various stupid reasons) and then I've been doing it again for about one year and 7 months. In the first three months I gain about 30lbs (but those were intensive, like biking everyday to go everywhere, bodybuilding every 2 days, basketball every 2 days and such). Before stopping the first time, I was reaching a plateau I could not overcome on some exercices (like bench press). A few months ago I felt I was not doing so good either, that's when I asked a pro nutrionist and he told my I was lacking proteins (none in the morning and not a lot in the dinner, only 3 meals). I thought I was fine with all the dairy I'm getting but no... For the rest, my diet was supposed to be sane (I do not eat junk food, and I've given up on cookies ). Now that I'm watching my protein intake, and even adding Whey I'm feeling like getting better (each session I can try a little heavier).
I'm also looking at getting a real gym (right now I'm doing that in my building), a coach for a better training plan and some supplements (whey, creatine, fish oil, BCAA and better multivitamins).


Thank you for your time, and for your help too
If you have any question please ask.

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Old 04-24-2007, 02:13 PM   #2
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i would shoot more for bodyweight*17 for you daily kcal intake and go with the basic 40/40/20 macro breakdown (pro/cho/fat). start there!
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:19 PM   #3
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Hello,

I'm sorry but I don't really understand what you mean here.
Do you mean I should calculate the lipides, carbs and proteines taken?

If so from http://fitday.com/ I'm getting about
4374 calories, for around 31/45/23

But I cannot really agree with their numbers, as they do not match the number I have on the food bought...
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:23 PM   #4
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I'm not sure how many calories this adds up to? this is something you need to work on with fitday. The food selection is good, but your breakfast lacks both protein ( I would add 7~8 egg whites) and fat ( i.e tbl spoon Flaxseed).

12 spoons oil at night is way overboard!
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You think I lack protein even with oats, the cereals and the milk ? hmm I used to add some whey to my cereals but it's not very good so I stopped. About eggs, I don't think I can eat those in the morning already, but I can add fat free yogurt if it's better?

About fat that's interesting, I should be getting some fish oil soon (well as soon as I finally place my order) so I guess that should do it.

For the oil, it looks crazy to me too, but this was a huge salad too. Hmm how much do you think is 'normal' ?

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You think I lack protein even with oats, the cereals and the milk ? hmm I used to add some whey to my cereals but it's not very good so I stopped. About eggs, I don't think I can eat those in the morning already, but I can add fat free yogurt if it's better?

About fat that's interesting, I should be getting some fish oil soon (well as soon as I finally place my order) so I guess that should do it.

For the oil, it looks crazy to me too, but this was a huge salad too. Hmm how much do you think is 'normal' ?

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Milk is the only decent protein you're getting, the reason being is that proteins found in vegetables and grains have an incomplete amino profile and will not be of use in bodybuilding, you need animal protein i.e meat, dairy, and eggs .
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yes you must count all your kcals. count the grams of pro/cho/fat. do some more research on bb.com.

and ps never add no oil to salads. always plain.
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Milk is the only decent protein you're getting, the reason being is that proteins found in vegetables and grains have an incomplete amino profile and will not be of use in bodybuilding, you need animal protein i.e meat, dairy, and eggs .
Hmm by mixing various vegetables one should be able to get a decent protein in the end no? but maybe the mix is no good here, I don't know. I'll look into that.

But then are cereals kind of useless in the morning ? before I was taking bread, butter and jam/honey but I switched to cereals + milk to get proteins, maybe that was not my best pick then...

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yes you must count all your kcals. count the grams of pro/cho/fat. do some more research on bb.com.

and ps never add no oil to salads. always plain.
1- I'm thinking of doing that, but I need a good website / program, fitday is nice but I guess I would need my own database to really use it... If you know any better plans, I'd love to know.

2- no oil in the salad ? hmm that's strange, cause from a lot of salads you only eat the sauce as celullose cannot be digested by human bodies.


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