igf-1 e3d whilst on teste

[myPecsRbigger]

Hi,

im thinking about running something like this
week 1-4 ergomax 30mg
week 1-10 teste 500mg
week 1-20 igf1 3 days a week 40mcg split into two injections for both sides of the body pwo
week 12-14 nolva 40mg
week 15-16 nolva 20mg
week 17 nolva 10mg
week 18 nolva 5mg

with mabey a low dose AI during like adex for saftey

the main point of this thread is the IGF-1 dosing, i basicly want to run the igf-1 for my lagging arms and to help prevent fat gain whislt bulking.

i plan on eating clean cals, and i do 40 mins of cardio everyday, but i plan on eating enough cals to put on mass.

is the igf-1 on cycle a good idea for this purpose of not putting on fat ? or is there a better tool for the job ? i thought of clen in 2 week cycles, however i figure this is just speeding up my metabolism which is pointless since i could just reduce my calorie intake

thoughts please

im still researching the igf-1 so not sure if im going to run it that long since it may surpess me

[Norwegiana]

Running IGF for 20 weeks is way to much IMHO.

If I'm not mistaken IGF leads to downregulation of receptors too, so I doubt you would get anything out of it if you used it for so long.

I would go with 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Maybe weeks 4-8 and 12-16, this way you would also get a boost during PCT.

Don't expect too great gains on it tough, the effects of hyperplasia won't be fully noticed before after a while.

[myPecsRbigger]

Originally Posted by Norwegiana

Running IGF for 20 weeks is way to much IMHO.

If I'm not mistaken IGF leads to downregulation of receptors too, so I doubt you would get anything out of it if you used it for so long.

I would go with 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Maybe weeks 4-8 and 12-16, this way you would also get a boost during PCT.

Don't expect too great gains on it tough, the effects of hyperplasia won't be fully noticed before after a while.

ah k, can e3d of igf dosing help minimise down regulation and thus be able to run it longer ?

[Norwegiana]

Originally Posted by myPecsRbigger

ah k, can e3d of igf dosing help minimise down regulation and thus be able to run it longer ?

I guess it would, but I wouldn't run it for 20 weeks anyway.

Also, you might get what you need from other compounds? Looking at the dosages I guess you don't have to many cycles under your belt?

[drew]

Originally Posted by Norwegiana

I guess it would, but I wouldn't run it for 20 weeks anyway.

agree on both counts. if he's only gonna run it 3 times a week or so, may as well up the dose to like 80mcg. that way it wont last nearly 20 weeks, lol

[myPecsRbigger]

Originally Posted by Norwegiana

I guess it would, but I wouldn't run it for 20 weeks anyway.

Also, you might get what you need from other compounds? Looking at the dosages I guess you don't have to many cycles under your belt?

correct, first inject cycle, done other cycles of oral ph's, not dicking around anymore and want to do it right

i mainly want the igf-1 to help keep fat gain down without hindering my overall gains which would accompany reducing cals to keep the fat in check.

as for 80mcg, from my understanding is that pwo muscle cells take the igf-1 up first, then after they are saturated they go and get wasted binding to the intestine receptors where u get igf-1 gut