I am so sick of the f**king games!

[Brokensteel]

Few weeks back, I met this girl. All was cool, I wasn't really that interested. But as I got to know her, I begin to become interested. I was convinced she was into me too, because of all the flirting and ****.. Ya know, she would talk about how her mom thought I was cute, talk about sex , blah, blah, blah. Hell, my best friend swore up and down that she liked me.

When all signals said go, I finally got the nerve to ask her out. When I do, she puts her hands on my cheeks, squishes my face, looks me dead in eye, smiles, and says, "We'll see." Here we are, two days later, and she's completely ignoring me. I mean nothing, not a smile, not even a glance in my direction.

I'm sick of the games. Really. My question is, do I let her know that it's pissing me off? Or do I completely ignore her and move on?

[NSD1513]

First off, how old is she?

[Brokensteel]

16. But I'm 17, my options are limited.

[Mortis]

Yeah, you're getting owned majorly.

Girls don't like guys who respond to their flirting or attention calls. If you'd ignored her from the start, you'd have known within a week if she was just f*cking with you or really into you. After that time, she'd have come around and seriously asked you out, and that would've been the time to tell HER "we'll see". Then you'd have been in control and could've made it as serious as you wanted.

Now she's just treated you like a kid. Once you lose a woman's respect, you can never get it back 100%...it's like climbing an icy slope without cleated boots.

Live and learn, bro.

[HenryHill]

Here's one thing that I've learned with girls. My best relationships, that went somewhat far, were ones that it was never like "Will you go out with me?" These relationships were like "Hey lets hang out tonight" and it's sort of established that you're dating without ever actually asking them out. In my minimal experience, if you have to formally ask a girl out then chances are they are too apprehensive or not interested enough to make it work. Take it for what it's worth, but this is just what I've noticed.

[Brokensteel]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

Here's one thing that I've learned with girls. My best relationships, that went somewhat far, were ones that it was never like "Will you go out with me?" These relationships were like "Hey lets hang out tonight" and it's sort of established that you're dating without ever actually asking them out. In my minimal experience, if you have to formally ask a girl out then chances are they are too apprehensive or not interested enough to make it work. Take it for what it's worth, but this is just what I've noticed.

Well, we were constantly together during school. In fact, several people had asked me (and her) if we were dating. It all just sort of happened.

And it seems to me that she's led me on and I've followed like a dumbass, blind sheep.

[user437490845hjgf]

ive always thought if a girl discusses sex then thats an indication they dont think of you sexually. Friend zone, sorry bro.

[drstrangepimp]

Originally Posted by Brokensteel

I'm sick of the games. Really. My question is, do I let her know that it's pissing me off? Or do I completely ignore her and move on?

When you meet a girl and she shows interest in you maybe she says you're cute, gives you signals, you hang out alot, YOU ARE IN NO WAY IN YET. Basically she is going to give you all kinds of signals and act like she likes you to GUAGE YOUR VALUE. This is an evolutionary mechanism that helps women weed out desperate guys.

If you fall into admiration for her or ask her out straight she will reject you because it shows you need it too much and are probably inferior. You need to play some games with her to let her know you don't need her.

This does in no way mean she was never attracted to you, you just failed the value test. To pass this test you must go push pull.

Be nice to her one minute, a little curt the next.

Punish her for being nice, then reward her for being mean.

Next day, reward her for being nice and punish her...ect

Make it so random so she freaks out trying to get the validation from you and she can't control it. This becomes addictive because it's like what gamblers feel when they roll the dice and don't know if they will feel pleasure or pain.

This is how you make a woman fall in love with you say in a forced interaction scenario over time in work, school, etc.

In a quick pickup there is no time for this obviously but a work or school it is the safest way to drive a woman crazy for you rather than asking her out.

You want her to be out of control and desperate for you before you make your move.

If you want to be victorious make reel her in slowly in the manner described above then go for the check mate (kiss, makeout somewhere).

Don't ask out on dates, just isolate and pounce when you know she is ready.

I know, I know too many games. You will be playing them all your life, might as well learn how to win.

[tarun_s]

i'd say flirt with other girls in front of her. if she reacts, u'll know she's just playing games with you and you can call her out on it. otherwise, u'd have other girls to flirt with...

[The Experiment]

Regarding signs that there is something more, I almost never go by what a girl says. I go by her actions. What that means is that she could be flirting with you constantly but her body language does not show that she is interested. Some of the girl friends I have, we say all kinds of things and what does it mean? Nothing. We just feel comfortable around each other and find the hold-nothing-back rapport to be refreshing.

The reaction to you asking her out told you everything. The game is over. She won. Now its time for her to find another dude. She might talk to you but it won't be for a while. It will be after she feels that it has been long enough since the rejection.

There was no game playing here. This was creating a fantasy world of only listening, never watching. Let it be a lesson.

[maryeliz]

If you ignore her, or flirt with other girls to make her jealous.... you're no better than she is~ you're playing games too. The best thing to do would be to try to talk to her or get her to hang out with you and maybe let it come up in conversation that she's been ignoring you... honestly though? most people are playing games at 16 and 17, whether they mean to or not... its just not a good age for a really serious relationship IMO

[neowings]

I'm confuse here.

[tarun_s]

Originally Posted by maryeliz

If you ignore her, or flirt with other girls to make her jealous.... you're no better than she is~ you're playing games too. The best thing to do would be to try to talk to her or get her to hang out with you and maybe let it come up in conversation that she's been ignoring you... honestly though? most people are playing games at 16 and 17, whether they mean to or not... its just not a good age for a really serious relationship IMO

no offense, but thats exactly why nice guys finish lost. because they dont play games, they go by logic. and i dont know if its ever worked for anybody, its never worked for me.

[drstrangepimp]

I'll give you an example.

There is a girl at work who likes me.

She twirls her hair when we talk, helps me with my work, asks questions like where I live, tries to catch me looking at her (i won't), gets really close to me when showing me something so her head is right next to mine (she smells fantastic and she knows it).

Now if I were my old self I would have screwed myself by now. I would have been caught looking at her ass, been too nice, might have asked her to lunch (i actually declined lunch by saying i already ate). This has happened before and it always frustrated me.

But I noticed she was starting to get too confident that I liked her so next time she came over to my cube to chat I don't face her, she talks but I just answer politely without looking. I thank her and she goes away seeming irritated. I smile to myself.

Next time she comes by I look at her kind of devilish but shy grin and say hi, and say her name. She kind of blushes. I give her a hard time over some document she created, joke with her that it's all wrong (it's perfect), make her laugh.

Next time I see her I might flirt again or I could be a little cold and face away and kind of act all business. Or I might face away and look over my shoulder at her then swivel to face her, then turn away.

Now I can tell she is trying to figure me out, this is the correct way. Her sister who works there too now seems curious. I can tell they have discussed me.

I will not ask her out. I will make her suffer until she gives me enough of a signal that I can safely make my move and it "just happens" between us.

And you thought women played games.

[tarun_s]

Originally Posted by drstrangepimp

I'll give you an example.

There is a girl at work who likes me.

She twirls her hair when we talk, helps me with my work, asks questions like where I live, tries to catch me looking at her (i won't), gets really close to me when showing me something so her head is right next to mine (she smells fantastic and she knows it).

Now if I were my old self I would have screwed myself by now. I would have been caught looking at her ass, been too nice, might have asked her to lunch (i actually declined lunch by saying i already ate). This has happened before and it always frustrated me.

But I noticed she was starting to get too confident that I liked her so next time she came over to my cube to chat I don't face her, she talks but I just answer politely without looking. I thank her and she goes away seeming irritated. I smile to myself.

Next time she comes by I look at her kind of devilish but shy grin and say hi, and say her name. She kind of blushes. I give her a hard time over some document she created, joke with her that it's all wrong (it's perfect), make her laugh.

Next time I see her I might flirt again or I could be a little cold and face away and kind of act all business. Or I might face away and look over my shoulder at her then swivel to face her, then turn away.

Now I can tell she is trying to figure me out, this is the correct way. Her sister who works there too now seems curious. I can tell they have discussed me.

I will not ask her out. I will make her suffer until she gives me enough of a signal that I can safely make my move and it "just happens" between us.

And you thought women played games.

props

[King Makaveli]

Originally Posted by maryeliz

If you ignore her, or flirt with other girls to make her jealous.... you're no better than she is~ you're playing games too. The best thing to do would be to try to talk to her or get her to hang out with you and maybe let it come up in conversation that she's been ignoring you... honestly though? most people are playing games at 16 and 17, whether they mean to or not... its just not a good age for a really serious relationship IMO

See, this is why the world is in this jumbled mess we call society. Men are encouraged to approach women with logic over and over, and they fail over and over, while women use illogical dating methods, which most of them are not aware that they're doing btw, then the same women tell the men to use logical methods when those logical methods obviously dont work. It's all one vicious cycle.

[neowings]

Originally Posted by drstrangepimp

I'll give you an example.

There is a girl at work who likes me.

She twirls her hair when we talk, helps me with my work, asks questions like where I live, tries to catch me looking at her (i won't), gets really close to me when showing me something so her head is right next to mine (she smells fantastic and she knows it).

Now if I were my old self I would have screwed myself by now. I would have been caught looking at her ass, been too nice, might have asked her to lunch (i actually declined lunch by saying i already ate). This has happened before and it always frustrated me.

But I noticed she was starting to get too confident that I liked her so next time she came over to my cube to chat I don't face her, she talks but I just answer politely without looking. I thank her and she goes away seeming irritated. I smile to myself.

Next time she comes by I look at her kind of devilish but shy grin and say hi, and say her name. She kind of blushes. I give her a hard time over some document she created, joke with her that it's all wrong (it's perfect), make her laugh.

Next time I see her I might flirt again or I could be a little cold and face away and kind of act all business. Or I might face away and look over my shoulder at her then swivel to face her, then turn away.

Now I can tell she is trying to figure me out, this is the correct way. Her sister who works there too now seems curious. I can tell they have discussed me.

I will not ask her out. I will make her suffer until she gives me enough of a signal that I can safely make my move and it "just happens" between us.

And you thought women played games.

Too many work for that. I have no time for games. And yes it sucks.

[tarun_s]

Originally Posted by Hustla_Ambition

See, this is why the world is in this jumbled mess we call society. Men are encouraged to approach women with logic over and over, and they fail over and over, while women use illogical dating methods, which most of them are not aware that they're doing btw, then the same women tell the men to use logical methods when those logical methods obviously dont work. It's all one vicious cycle.

exactly what i said

[maryeliz]

lol didn't mean to start a war guys!! In general, though, I'd say being honest is the best method. I'm not really a scheming, game-playing sort of woman... so maybe thats why~ lol!

[MusclesMarinara]

If you don't want games, YOU have to be in control or TAKE control of the situation. Don't let them think they have the upperhand.

[Logicalypso]

So, you never flirt with guys? You never alter your appearance in any way, depending on the social occasion and the possibility of a guy that you like being there? When you want to date a guy, you say to him, "I want to date you"? When you just want to sleep with a guy, you say to him, "I want to sleep with you"?

If you answered "No, of course not" to any of the above questions, then you do play games, whether you realize it or not. Games like the kind that drstrangepimp described are just played more deliberately and more consciously.

[parkway drive]

Originally Posted by Brokensteel

Few weeks back, I met this girl. All was cool, I wasn't really that interested. But as I got to know her, I begin to become interested. I was convinced she was into me too, because of all the flirting and ****.. Ya know, she would talk about how her mom thought I was cute, talk about sex , blah, blah, blah. Hell, my best friend swore up and down that she liked me.

When all signals said go, I finally got the nerve to ask her out. When I do, she puts her hands on my cheeks, squishes my face, looks me dead in eye, smiles, and says, "We'll see." Here we are, two days later, and she's completely ignoring me. I mean nothing, not a smile, not even a glance in my direction.

I'm sick of the games. Really. My question is, do I let her know that it's pissing me off? Or do I completely ignore her and move on?

to get the girl. you have to be prepared to walk away, your ability to show you don't need to work for her attention will bring her screaming in your direction.

take a step back and give yourself some power.

dont ask her when you should go out. tell her. dont make yourself avaliable to her and dont do what she wants when she wants.

then you will get the girl

[pittbb]

Originally Posted by Brokensteel

Few weeks back, I met this girl. All was cool, I wasn't really that interested. But as I got to know her, I begin to become interested. I was convinced she was into me too, because of all the flirting and ****.. Ya know, she would talk about how her mom thought I was cute, talk about sex , blah, blah, blah. Hell, my best friend swore up and down that she liked me.

When all signals said go, I finally got the nerve to ask her out. When I do, she puts her hands on my cheeks, squishes my face, looks me dead in eye, smiles, and says, "We'll see." Here we are, two days later, and she's completely ignoring me. I mean nothing, not a smile, not even a glance in my direction.

I'm sick of the games. Really. My question is, do I let her know that it's pissing me off? Or do I completely ignore her and move on?

sounds like a "dick tease". move on.

[Mr Bounce]

Women are strongly attracted to personality, which is something that can't be seen. How can they tell how attractive your personality is? Games; little tests that will make or break the attraction. Kissing her ass, letting her know you like her, and generally being a whiny bitch means you fail. Busting her balls, keeping her guessing about you, and standing up for yourself generally lead to a pass.

I believe this happens because it's hardwired into us, not because of society's conditioning.

[mASF]

Originally Posted by Brokensteel

Few weeks back, I met this girl. All was cool, I wasn't really that interested. But as I got to know her, I begin to become interested. I was convinced she was into me too, because of all the flirting and ****.. Ya know, she would talk about how her mom thought I was cute, talk about sex , blah, blah, blah. Hell, my best friend swore up and down that she liked me.

When all signals said go, I finally got the nerve to ask her out. When I do, she puts her hands on my cheeks, squishes my face, looks me dead in eye, smiles, and says, "We'll see." Here we are, two days later, and she's completely ignoring me. I mean nothing, not a smile, not even a glance in my direction.

I'm sick of the games. Really. My question is, do I let her know that it's pissing me off? Or do I completely ignore her and move on?

Thats what happens when you formally ask women out, especially young girls.

[g_washington]

No doubt man, games are the reason I broke up with my last girlfriend. She started doing that **** and I was out of there. Its such a turnoff.

[Beklet]

You asked her out. She said 'maybe' then has spent the last few days ****ing you about.

Ignore her, leave her to it. You've made yourself clear. Either she wants to or she doesn't. If she can't make her mind up, that's her problem. The ball is in her court, so to speak.

[FSUFan4]

Originally Posted by maryeliz

If you ignore her, or flirt with other girls to make her jealous.... you're no better than she is~ you're playing games too. The best thing to do would be to try to talk to her or get her to hang out with you and maybe let it come up in conversation that she's been ignoring you... honestly though? most people are playing games at 16 and 17, whether they mean to or not... its just not a good age for a really serious relationship IMO

Bad advice here. The only way to get a girl is to play games right back at her. Show her you aren't needy and that you have tons of other options. Do not try to "talk it out" with her after she rejected you.

You most likely lost this one.

[Catch39]

I agree with all of the guys who said you need to play games back. Also...don't always ligner on one girl because you'll **** yourself in the end, literally and figuratively.

Go out, meet some new girls, and ignore this one.

[taimos]

she seems more immature than most girls I know who are like 14/15..including my girlfriend.

Leave it.