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Post A Woman's "PUA" Guide?

A Woman's PUA Guide?

It actually makes a lot of sense to me...but I'd like a man's opinion.

1 Anything a person chases in life runs away
2 The women who have the men climbing the walls for them aren't always exceptional. Often, they are the ones who don't appear to care that much
3 A woman is perceived as offering a mental challenge to the degree that a man doesn't feel he has a 100% hold on her
4 Sometimes a man deliberately won't call, just to see how you'll respond.
5 If you start out dependant, it turns him off. But if it is something he can't have, it becomes more of a challenge for him to get it.
6 It is your attitude about yourself that a man will adopt
7 Act like a prize and you'll turn him into a believer
8 The biggest variable between a bitch and a woman who is too nice is FEAR. The bitch shows that she's not afraid to be without him.
9 If the choice is between her dignity and having a relationship, the bitch will prioritize her dignity above all else
She maintains her independence
She doesn't pursue him
She is mysterious
She leaves him wanting
She doesn't let him see her sweat
She remains in control of her time
She maintains a sense of humor
She places a high value on herself
She is passionate about something other than him
She treats her body like a finely tuned machine
10 When a woman doesn't give in easily and doesn't appear docile or submissive, it becomes more stimulating to obtain her
11 Being right on the verge of getting something generates a desire that has to be satisfied
12 A man knows which woman will give in to last-minute requests
13 Whether you have terms and conditions indicates whether you have options. Almost immediately, you present yourself as a doormat or a dreamgirl
SAFE + BORING + MAMA = NO SPARK
UNPREDICATABLE + NOT MONOTONOUS + HO = FIREWORKS
14 A bitch gives a man plenty of space so he doesn't fear being trapped in a cage. Then?he sets out to trap her in his
15 If you tell him you are not interested in jumping into a relationship with both feet, he will set out to try to change your mind.
16 Always give the appearance that he has plenty of space. It gets him to drop his guard
17 More than anything else, he watches to see if you'll be too emotionally dependant on him
18 He must feel that you choose to be with him, not that you need to be with him. Only then will he perceive you as an equal partner
19 If a man has to wait before he sleeps with a woman, he'll not only perceive her as more beautiful, he'll also take time to appreciate who she is.
20 Sex and the "spark" are nto one and the same
21 Before sex, a man isnt' thinking clearly and a woman is thinking clearly. After sex, it reverses. The man is thinking clearly and the woman isn't
22 Every man wants to have sex first; whether he wants a girlfriend is something he thinks about later. By not giving him what he wants up front, you become his girlfriend without him realizing it.
23 A man intuitively sense whether sexuality comes from a place of security or from a place of neediness. He knows when a woman is having sex to appease him.
24 Bad habits are easier to form than good ones, because good havits require conscious effort. Waiting encourages this effort
25 If you pull the sexual plug at the last minute, he'll label you as a tease
26 If he makes you feel insecure, let your insecurity be your guide
27 A quality guy fantasizes about a woman who genuinely loves sex
28 Any time a woman competes with another woman, she demeans herself
29 When there is that undeniable "spark", there is only one key to the lock
30 Let him think he's not in control. He'll automatically start doing things you want done because he'll always want to look like "a king" in your eyes
31 When you cater to his ego in a sofft way, he doesn't try to get power in an aggressive way.
32 When you apppear softer and more feminine, you appeal to his instinct to protect. When you apprear more aggressive, you appeal to his instince to compete
33 He'll let a woman who becomes his doormat pay for dinner on the first couple of dates, but he wouldn't think of it with his dreamgirl
34 The token power position is for public display, but the true power position is for private viewing only. And this is the only one that matters
35 If you give him a feelign of power, he'll want to protect you and he'll want to give you the world
36 When a woman acts as though she's capable of everything, she gets stuck doing everything
37 Men don't respond to words. They respond to no contact
38 Talking about the "relationship" too much takes away the element of the "unknown" and thus the mystery
39 Men respect women who communicate in a succinct way, because it's the language men use to talk to one another.
Telling it like it is in a matter-of-fact way and gets her point across
40 When you are always happy; and he is always free to go; he feels lucky
41 If you allow your rhythm to be interrupted, you'll create a void. Then, to replace what you give up, you'll start to expect and need more from your partner
42 Most women are starving to receive something from a man that they need to give to themselves.
43 A woman looks more secure in a man's eyes when he can't pull her away from her life, because she is content with her life.
44 The second a woman works overtime to make herself fit his criteria, she has lowered the standard of that relatinship
45 You jump through hoops any time you repeatedly make it very obvious you're giving your "all"
46 You have to keep from being sucked down into quicksand. Unless you maintain control over yourself, the relationship is doomed
47 Jumping through hoops often has a negative outcome: He sees it as an opprotunity to have his cake and eat it, too.
48 But when you stay just outside his reach, he'll stay on his best behavior
49 The nice girl gives away too much of herself when pleasing him regularly becomes more important than pleasing herself
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50 The relationship may not be right for you if you find yourself jumping through hoops. When something is right, it will feel easier and much more effortless.
51 When you nag, he tunes you out. But when you speak with your actions, he pays attention
52 When a man takes a woman for granted, he still loks for reassurance that she is still " right there"
53 Whe the routine becomes predicatble, he's more likely to give you the same type of love he had for his mother--and the odds that he will take you for granted increase
54 Negative attention is still attention. It lets a man know that he has you--right where he wants you
Nagging = A woman who is predicatble = a feeling of obligation = Decreased lust
Indifference = Less predicatble response = Remewed interest
55 When you treat him casually as though he's a friend, he'll come your way. Because he wants things to be romatnic, but he also wants to be the pursuer.
56 A little distance combined with the apprearance of self-control makes him nervous that he may be losing you
57 A man takes a woman for granted when he's interested, but will no longer go out of his way
58 When you nag, you become the problem, and he deals with it by tuning you out. But when you don?t' nag, he deals with the problem
59 If you take his chores away from him and praise someone else for doing it, he'll want his chores back
60 When you nag, he sees weakness
61 He perceives an emotinal woman as more of a pushover
62 In the same way that familiarity breeds contempt, a slightly aloof demeanor can often renew his respect
63 He'll forget what he has in you?unless you remind him
64 Many women talk a lot out of nervousness--which is something tha tmen will often perceive as insecurity
65 Talking about feelings to a man whill feel like work. When he's with a woman, he wants it to feel like fun
66 Forcing him to talk about feelings all the time will not only make you seem needy, it will eventually make him lose respect. And when he loses respect, he'll pay even less attention to your feelings
67 In the beginning, the only thing you need to pay attention to is whether he keeps coming around, because he'll only be able to suspend or hide his emotions for so long.
68 Men treat women the way they treat other men. They "play it cool" because they don't want to appear weak or desperate
69 The element of surprise both inside and outside of the bedroom is important to men, and it adds to the excitement
70 Don't always do the same thing over and over in the bedroom. Vary it so that it doesn?t' become a predicatble routine
71 Most men tend to disrespect a woman who appears to be too malleable
72 Don't be afraid to dtand up fo ryourself or speak your mind. It will not only earn his respect, in some cases it will even turn him on
73 Men often automatically assume that a bitchier woman will be mor assertive in bed, and that a nice girl will be more timid
74 When a man falls in love, suddenly he'll go out of his way and think nothing of it. He'll do things for this woman he wouldn't have done for anyone else
75 He'll never respect you as being able to hold your own unless you can stand on your own two feet financially
Work = Money = Keeping your pink slip = The ability to choose the way you want to be treated = Dignity
76 You have to show that you won't accept mistreatmen. Then you will keep his respect
77 Your pinkslip is maintained when you can stand on you won--with him or without him. He should never feel that you are completely at his mercy
78 When a man views a woman as a "little girl" or a sister he has to take care of, the passion diminishes. He doesn't want to make love to his sister
79 The ability to choose how you want to live, and the ability to choose how you want to be treated are the two things that will give you more power than any material object over will.
80 In a relationship of any kind, if one person feel sthe other person isnt' bringing anythign to the table, he or she will begin to disrespect that person
81 Financial neediness is no different than emotional neediness; in both instances, he can still get the feeling that he has a 100% hold on you
82 Regardless of how pretty a woman is, looks alne will not sustain his respect. Appearance may pull him in, bu titis your independence that will keep him turned on.
83 When a man is very consumed with not being taken advantage of, this is a sign tha he's "on the take"
84 People will show you they have self-respect simply by virtue of the fact that they want to carry their own weight
85 The more independent you are of him, the more interested he will be
86 If you make it too obvious that you're excited to get something, some people will be temepted to dangle a carrot in front of your face
"Getting a life" will make it seem like you are no longer impetuous or imatient. When you are relaxed, you've taken the "need" out of the equation.
87 When you alter the routine, you are nto being there at times is what will meke him come around. Men don't respond to words. What they respond to is no contact
88 Don't give a reward for bad behavior
89 He simply won't respect a woman who automatically goes into overdrive to please him
90 If he doesn't give you a time, you don't have a date
91 Often the best way to adjust or fix the problem is by not lettign him know it's being fized. When you alter your availability or change a predictable routine, it will mentally pull him back in
92 Once you start laughing, you start healing
93 You can get away with saying much more with humor than you can with a straight face. He watches to see if you can hold your own
94 A man feels he's won, or conquered a woman, when she eats out fo the palm of his hand. At which point, he begins to get bored
95 The tension that arises with slightly bitchy woman gives a subtle feeling of danger to a aman. He feels slightly unsure because she is never in the palm of his hand
96 A "yes" woman who gives too much sends the impressin that she believes in the man more than she believes in herself. Men view this as weakness not kindness
97 Be an independent thinkier at all times, and ignore anyone who attemts to define you in a limiting way.
98 Truly powerful people don?t' explain why they want respect. They simply don't engage someone who doesn't give it to them
99 The most attractive quality of all is dignity
100 Whenever a woman requires too many things from a man, he'll resent it. Let him give what he wants to give freely; then observe who he is
101 If you smother him, he'll go into defense mode and look for an escape route to protect his freedom
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WEll I'm certainly not reading all of that.

Basically it boils down to this...

If you act interested in a woman at first she will shoot you down without a second thought.

If not, you have a chance.
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Just skimmed over it, too many too quote, so I'll try to sum it up imo. Independence is a great thing in a relationship, no one wants to be with a clingy person or someone who they feel is needy, however EVERYONE wants to feel like they are needed by their partner in a relationship, even if it's just a little.

61 He perceives an emotinal woman as more of a pushover-- true, but a guy also wants to be the shoulder you cry on

56 A little distance combined with the apprearance of self-control makes him nervous that he may be losing you -- not really, for the unsecure person maybe

76 You have to show that you won't accept mistreatmen. Then you will keep his respect -- very true, once someone gets an advantage in a relationship they will keep pushing and pushing, you have to set your foot down

and lastly but most important to me

99 The most attractive quality of all is dignity -- x100, i could never respect a girl who doesn't respect herself. whether by going to school, taking care of her body, etc, the way a person treats their body is the exact same way they'll treat you.
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WEll I'm certainly not reading all of that.

Basically it boils down to this...

If you act interested in a woman at first she will shoot you down without a second thought.

If not, you have a chance.
Thanks for the cliff notes
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No one is going to read all that crap.

TY for the cliff notes.
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No one is going to read all that crap.

TY for the cliff notes.

Basically the same tricks PUAs use. In other words would the tricks you use to get women work on you?
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Basically the same tricks PUAs use. In other words would the tricks you use to get women work on you?
Someone will have to give in though or nobody will ever hook up with anybody!

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2 The women who have the men climbing the walls for them aren't always exceptional. Often, they are the ones who don't appear to care that much


Stop yourself right there.

The whole idea that you can have a women's PUA guide is predicated on that point.

Try to think if you can ACTUALLY find any examples of this.

I am sorry, but as a man I don't believe you can. An average looking women, cannot "out game" a better looking one. At least not in my experience.

Some men have different tastes, so they may appear to be selecting a less attractive woman but she is probably just more attractive to them.

The one true exception I have found is women who are REALLY good at sex, and really into it.

I would rather be with an average women who LOVED sex, then a really hot one that didn't.

Besides that you need to concentrate on being a good person, and learning positive relationship skills, because most of this stuff, once you all ready have the guy will just get you dumped.

Same goes for male PUA stuff.
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Oh well that is kind of interesting.

And yes, yes they would work.
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The only thing i'm sure about is that i'd date you.
The poster above you or the OP's boyfriend?
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I prefer a woman with brains *sans* games...

If you like me let me know...Otherwise you're just wasting valuable time that can be better spent as a "couple"...Assuming I like the girl as well...

HOWEVER

If I don't like the woman, there ain't enough PUA manuals in this world that can save her
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I've seen much worse.

I'll tell you this. A lot of girls have done this to me and I've been able to see right through them. Throughout dating several women, reading all kinds of human psychology texts, and even strategies of past world leaders, I've been able to fine tune my bull**** meter to an exceptional degree.

You aim high; I will aim low. You aim low; I'll step to the side and let you fall down. You try to catch me side stepping, I'll half step and switch it up and put my foot on the middle of your back.

I don't believe in stalemates so I'll let you get one on me, until you think you got me beaten.

I'm not trying to be negative at all. I'm just saying that there is nothing that is foolproof or guaranteed about this type of game. So you can't just drill through these, you have to know what it takes. Which is why a lot of PUAs at first crash and burn repeatedly.

Girls I don't think are used to this very much and neither are guys. If you are able to get over that, then there is something to the guide.
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50 The relationship may not be right for you if you find yourself jumping through hoops. When something is right, it will feel easier and much more effortless.
51 When you nag, he tunes you out. But when you speak with your actions, he pays attention
52 When a man takes a woman for granted, he still loks for reassurance that she is still " right there"
53 Whe the routine becomes predicatble, he's more likely to give you the same type of love he had for his mother--and the odds that he will take you for granted increase
54 Negative attention is still attention. It lets a man know that he has you--right where he wants you
Nagging = A woman who is predicatble = a feeling of obligation = Decreased lust
Indifference = Less predicatble response = Remewed interest
55 When you treat him casually as though he's a friend, he'll come your way. Because he wants things to be romatnic, but he also wants to be the pursuer.
56 A little distance combined with the apprearance of self-control makes him nervous that he may be losing you
57 A man takes a woman for granted when he's interested, but will no longer go out of his way
58 When you nag, you become the problem, and he deals with it by tuning you out. But when you don?t' nag, he deals with the problem
59 If you take his chores away from him and praise someone else for doing it, he'll want his chores back
60 When you nag, he sees weakness
61 He perceives an emotinal woman as more of a pushover
62 In the same way that familiarity breeds contempt, a slightly aloof demeanor can often renew his respect
63 He'll forget what he has in you?unless you remind him
64 Many women talk a lot out of nervousness--which is something tha tmen will often perceive as insecurity
65 Talking about feelings to a man whill feel like work. When he's with a woman, he wants it to feel like fun
66 Forcing him to talk about feelings all the time will not only make you seem needy, it will eventually make him lose respect. And when he loses respect, he'll pay even less attention to your feelings
67 In the beginning, the only thing you need to pay attention to is whether he keeps coming around, because he'll only be able to suspend or hide his emotions for so long.
68 Men treat women the way they treat other men. They "play it cool" because they don't want to appear weak or desperate
69 The element of surprise both inside and outside of the bedroom is important to men, and it adds to the excitement
70 Don't always do the same thing over and over in the bedroom. Vary it so that it doesn?t' become a predicatble routine
71 Most men tend to disrespect a woman who appears to be too malleable
72 Don't be afraid to dtand up fo ryourself or speak your mind. It will not only earn his respect, in some cases it will even turn him on
73 Men often automatically assume that a bitchier woman will be mor assertive in bed, and that a nice girl will be more timid
74 When a man falls in love, suddenly he'll go out of his way and think nothing of it. He'll do things for this woman he wouldn't have done for anyone else
75 He'll never respect you as being able to hold your own unless you can stand on your own two feet financially
Work = Money = Keeping your pink slip = The ability to choose the way you want to be treated = Dignity
76 You have to show that you won't accept mistreatmen. Then you will keep his respect
77 Your pinkslip is maintained when you can stand on you won--with him or without him. He should never feel that you are completely at his mercy
78 When a man views a woman as a "little girl" or a sister he has to take care of, the passion diminishes. He doesn't want to make love to his sister
79 The ability to choose how you want to live, and the ability to choose how you want to be treated are the two things that will give you more power than any material object over will.
80 In a relationship of any kind, if one person feel sthe other person isnt' bringing anythign to the table, he or she will begin to disrespect that person
81 Financial neediness is no different than emotional neediness; in both instances, he can still get the feeling that he has a 100% hold on you
82 Regardless of how pretty a woman is, looks alne will not sustain his respect. Appearance may pull him in, bu titis your independence that will keep him turned on.
83 When a man is very consumed with not being taken advantage of, this is a sign tha he's "on the take"
84 People will show you they have self-respect simply by virtue of the fact that they want to carry their own weight
85 The more independent you are of him, the more interested he will be
86 If you make it too obvious that you're excited to get something, some people will be temepted to dangle a carrot in front of your face
"Getting a life" will make it seem like you are no longer impetuous or imatient. When you are relaxed, you've taken the "need" out of the equation.
87 When you alter the routine, you are nto being there at times is what will meke him come around. Men don't respond to words. What they respond to is no contact
88 Don't give a reward for bad behavior
89 He simply won't respect a woman who automatically goes into overdrive to please him
90 If he doesn't give you a time, you don't have a date
91 Often the best way to adjust or fix the problem is by not lettign him know it's being fized. When you alter your availability or change a predictable routine, it will mentally pull him back in
92 Once you start laughing, you start healing
93 You can get away with saying much more with humor than you can with a straight face. He watches to see if you can hold your own
94 A man feels he's won, or conquered a woman, when she eats out fo the palm of his hand. At which point, he begins to get bored
95 The tension that arises with slightly bitchy woman gives a subtle feeling of danger to a aman. He feels slightly unsure because she is never in the palm of his hand
96 A "yes" woman who gives too much sends the impressin that she believes in the man more than she believes in herself. Men view this as weakness not kindness
97 Be an independent thinkier at all times, and ignore anyone who attemts to define you in a limiting way.
98 Truly powerful people don?t' explain why they want respect. They simply don't engage someone who doesn't give it to them
99 The most attractive quality of all is dignity
100 Whenever a woman requires too many things from a man, he'll resent it. Let him give what he wants to give freely; then observe who he is
101 If you smother him, he'll go into defense mode and look for an escape route to protect his freedom
whats is that suppose to be..
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If a woman lost her vagina in a train accident, but somehow the doctors saved a few eggs and it was technologically possible to save those eggs to later make a baby, how would she keep her man?

What are you thinking of?:
Oral?
Anal?
Handjob?

see what I'm sayin'?. you just classified yourself as a series of holes.

And yet I'm supposed to treat you special, when you're just a bunch of holes, TO YOURSELF?



I bet you never thought of:
Learn to play xbox
Learn to play pool
Bring another bitch that got a vagina over
Learn to cook BBQ ribs
etc...



but if a man had no stick/balls but some of his sperm was saved and it was technologically possible to save that to later make a baby, it would be damn easy for a man to keep a women without ever stimulating her vagina. Men are smart like that. We think outside the box. Women can only think of using their possibility of sex to keep a man rofl. Thats where we differ.

Yet women think they are all special, when in reality you think of yourself as nothing more than a series of holes. Realize that and you will grow up a little.
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If a woman lost her vagina in a train accident, but somehow the doctors saved a few eggs and it was technologically possible to save those eggs to later make a baby, how would she keep her man?

What are you thinking of?:
Oral?
Anal?
Handjob?

see what I'm sayin'?. you just classified yourself as a series of holes.

And yet I'm supposed to treat you special, when you're just a bunch of holes, TO YOURSELF?



I bet you never thought of:
Learn to play xbox
Learn to play pool
Bring another bitch that got a vagina over
Learn to cook BBQ ribs
etc...



but if a man had no stick/balls but some of his sperm was saved and it was technologically possible to save that to later make a baby, it would be damn easy for a man to keep a women without ever stimulating her vagina. Men are smart like that. We think outside the box. Women can only think of using their possibility of sex to keep a man rofl. Thats where we differ.

Yet women think they are all special, when in reality you think of yourself as nothing more than a series of holes. Realize that and you will grow up a little.
Is this you're way of telling us you'd rather have a boyfriend as opposed to a girlfriend

Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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There should be a prize for people who can read that whole thing.

Women needing a PUA guide, is like Porche needing a national ad campaign, to make people like the brand better.
Nature has set the system up that female's attract male's by visuals. Once a male see's a female, he is sexually charged to go. Every girl already knows this, why do you think they where short skirts, tight jeans and get implants.

This idea the media puts out about women needing a PU guide, is to make females seem -deeper- than they are. Stating facts (no personal jabs). I think some girl's are so guilty that they can attract a man so easily, that they try to rationalize, that it must be some games they're running. If a man has working vision and see's a female, it's on.

Like a comedy skit, a PUA guide for women, is a joke.
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It's not a PUA guide. It's a dating guide with rules akin to the ones PUs use.
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