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Arrow Save The Peeps!!!!

Even if you don't want us to promote our agenda / petition....

I do want to dedicate myself to protecting as many worthy peeps as possible!!!

A long time lover of the human body.... I am particulary concerned with the LACK of concern that most guys have about PROSTATE CANCER..

Sure.... now you are young..... strong..... you think the WORST that could happen is a preemy cremey..... or - a lack of ability - like Temporary Insanity.....

But you all are VERY aware of what you put IN your bodies.... do you EVER think about the health and well being of your PEEP???

Moderation in all my lovelies (except sex - there is no need, repeat - NO NEED for moderation in sex) is the key to a happy healthy life... and Peep.

Anyone else willing to help me promote the Healthy PeeP???

"Here are the facts as were revealed at the recent NIH Conference, held on October 8th and 9th, entitled: “Vitamin D and Health in the 21st Century – Bone and Beyond”

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/about/od/prip/index.htm :

Vitamin D is the key material required to combat rickets, cancer, diabetes and MS

Over 60% of Americans are today Vitamin D deficient

Since 1975, rickets cases have increased dramatically

Vitamin D cannot be generated sufficiently without exposure to sunlight, either natural or artificial

Sunscreen blocks UV-B, which then inhibits Vitamin D generation

1.3 million internal (breast, colon, stomach) cancer cases per year are attributed to Vitamin D deficiency

Over 50,000 cases of diabetes and MS are attributed to Vitamin D deficiency

Of the 7,9 00 melanoma cases each year, better than 95% are completely cured

Given the choice, people overwhelmingly would rather deal with skin cancer versus the internal varieties

Internal cancers pull nearly 97 billion dollars (and increasing) per year out of the US economy through Medicare

Background

In June of this year, Dr. James Spencer of the AAD met with members of the Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Science and Technology (FDA/ OST), the department responsible for governing regulatory polices relating to radiation-emitting devices, including tanning equipment and individual sunlamps.

When a complete ban on sunlamps was demanded by Dr. Spencer and his colleagues, Senior Research Biophysicist at FDA/OST, Dr. Howard Cyr, reiterated his insistence that there was no definitive link between sunlight or tanning beds and malignant melanoma. At best, there could be an argument made that UV-A might be a catalyst for common Basal and Squamous cell skin cancers, but nothing specifically indicting sunbeds as a causal factor could be found. In support of this, Dr. Cyr mentioned the Australian 2002 “Sturm, et. al” study that positively connected melanoma to a genetic mutation, which explained why melanoma lesions appeared on areas of the body never exposed to sunlight. The AAD has chosen to ignore such studies.

Dr. Cyr has also taken issue with the Swedish study submitted to the AP as being an outdated, extrapolative survey, conducted in a country where the vastly predominant skin type is “I” (no melanin, and therefore won’t tan), and Vitamin D is generated only 3 months of the year. Virtually every Swede and Norwegian is Vitamin D deficient during the remaining 9 months. Additionally, Swedes drink alcohol and smoke much more than Americans; both have strong, definitive links to melanoma. Using Scandinavians in such research, therefore, would be like comparing the skin reactions of nocturnal mice to those of humans.[/i]

The Inherent Danger of False Information

In a nutshell, the AAD launched this new campaign, using the AP as a veritable “Sword of Damocles”, in an effort to obfuscate the truth, deflect blame away from itself, and harm the producers of tanning equipment and lamps. One can only surmise that, after the contrarian revelations of the recent NIH – Vitamin D Conference were made public (and with his back to the wall), Dr. Spencer decided to engage in a scorched earth policy; let the devil bemoan the fallout.

This kind of academic skullduggery is the same sort that pegged Saccharin as being a carcinogen for 20 years, until it was discovered that the original study listing it as such was seriously flawed, forcing the government to take it off the list of cancer causing agents in 2001. But by then, the damage to the economy, as well as the livelihoods of 10,000 Americans employed in the artificial sweetener industry, had already been done. What happened to the researcher who published the false study? He retired, conveniently, in 2000.

In view of data emanating from such organizations as NASA, NIH, FDA and Penn State / Purdue Universities, the AAD felt compelled to stick its collective head in the sand and promulgate an overwhelmingly potent media blitz to bolster a misguided mantra. Once this information has made it to the trial lawyers, the organization may find itself the subject of a massive class action lawsuit, naming it as the cause of, among other things, the rickets and diabetes being suffered by thousands of young people today.

Academic Study Sources:

Dr. Margherita T. Cantorna, PhD – Pennsylvania State University
Drs. Mona S. Calvo and C.N. Barton, PhD’s - FDA / CFSAN
Dr. Bess Dawson-Hughes – Tufts University
Dr. Hector F. DeLuca, PhD – University of Wisconsin at Madison
Dr. James Fleet, PhD – Purdue University
Dr. Robert P. Heaney, MD – Creighton University
Dr. Michael F. Holick, MD, PhD – Boston University
Dr. Kelly S. Scanlon, PhD, RD – Centers for Disease Control
Dr. William B. Grant, PhD – NASA Langley Research Center
Dr. Gerald F. Combs, Jr., PhD – USA / ARS Human Nutrition Center"

This information submitted by Robert T. Wagner, President / CEO, Medical Device Listing Consultants, a Division of AEGIS, Inc., Saint Petersburg, FL (727) 471-0173, www.fdalistingconsultants.com
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:05 PM   #2
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Cancer Lett. 2003 Oct 28;200(2):141-8.

Associations between prostate cancer susceptibility and parameters of exposure to ultraviolet radiation.

Bodiwala D, Luscombe CJ, French ME, Liu S, Saxby MF, Jones PW, Fryer AA, Strange RC.

Department of Urology, North Staffordshire Hospital, Staffordshire, UK


Low sunlight exposure confers increased prostate cancer risk. In a study conducted in northern England, we investigated how combinations of exposure measures affect this risk. Recursive partitioning was used to identify combinations of exposure parameters that distinguished 453 prostate cancers from 312 benign hypertrophy patients. Sunbathing score most significantly defined cancer patients; 78.7% men with low scores (8.0) had cancer. These subgroups were stratified by childhood sunburning, holidays in a hot climate and skin type such that subgroups with a 13.0-fold increased risk of cancer were identified.
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:14 PM   #3
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someone please ban these jokers their other thread was already locked
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:31 PM   #4
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you depressed son of a .......

What a negative piece of work you ARE!!!

How absolutley self-absorbed you are to demand our bannishment while YOU post from exile.....


Lighten up Cha-Chi .... get your ass into a tanning bed or some natural sunlight -- - -


You are killing my buzz!! :MAD:

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Old 10-23-2003, 07:54 PM   #5
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I have somewhat of an affiliation with the indoor tanning industry. I'll be attending the 2003 ITA World Expo in a few weeks. Although tanning has many benefits, I'm not sure spamming a bodybuilding message board is the way to get your message across. People will sign the petition if they want to, but creating more than one thread is just annoying to most of us here.

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Re: you depressed son of a .......

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What a negative piece of work you ARE!!!

How absolutley self-absorbed you are to demand our bannishment while YOU post from exile.....


Lighten up Cha-Chi .... get your ass into a tanning bed or some natural sunlight -- - -


You are killing my buzz!! :MAD:

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ummmm Becky ~

will you acknowledge that this thread has NOTHING to do with the media bashing petition....

can you see the REAL issues being brought to light (pun intended).... if you are involved with tanning - - is it for the accessories or really do you KNOW UV?

Salon owners that promote the necessity of UV as part of a healthy lifestyle - are TRULY looking out for the welfare of the clients....

if you go to Nashville.... sit in on some courses.... pickup Dr. Hollicks book.... get the meeting with Dr Clark under your belt....


Cause while I want to educate the world on the Good the Bad and the UGLY of UVL... I certainly don't want to preach to your choir......

*grumpy boy... go talk triceps and tricycles.... but don't say that no one EVER CARED about the health of your peep *

p.s might I add - you look stellar in rainbow!
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Old 10-24-2003, 01:10 AM   #8
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I attended the seminars last year in Nashville and have "known" UV for 10 years, back when I bought my first tanning bed. It was my pleasure to chat with Dr. Holick, as well as the scientists who developed Cosmedico. I don't attend the Expo for free lotion.

Obviously, I am not disputing the positive effects of the sun. I am commenting that this may not be the most effective medium to educate others, as one of your threads has already been locked. Not a good way to start off.

The condescending tone of these posts and insults thrown at forum members doesn't help your credibility. The information is good, but you're not a good representation of the industry.
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This thread is about health, and fitness...and for a lot of people that are working out, their nutritional intake is often flawed (not on purpose).

When my sister diets for a show, all of us cut back and change our diets...unless I'm mad at her and decide to horf down some Krispy Kremes in front of her just because I can and she can't. You all know the diet restrictions for a show, and you all know some people train for SEVERAL shows per year. Most of you do all you can to stay healthy on a restricted diet, but there are those that don't stay as healthy.

Supplements are a major need for people that are working out and working with a limited diet. Vitamin D can be taken (you NEED strong bones when you work out), but, Vitamin D supplements are only effective if your calcium intake is sufficient. In large doses, Vitamin D is toxic. Food sources offer some Vitamin D amounts, but NOTHING creates proper Vitamin D levels like UV exposure (natural or artificial).

Some men put YEARS into their training and dieting, it becomes a way of life for them. Becoming vitamin D deficient can increase the risk for prostrate cancer (and other health problems). With prostrate cancer rising, it's important for men to know how to minimize the risks.

Look at all the older men, finally taking the time to become healthier through weight training. Men are becoming MORE involved with their physical appearance, and it's important that they remain healthy...and maintaining a healthy prostrate is NOT on the list of priorities.

One of my dear friends just went through surgery, he had prostrate cancer. The cancer was removed, and he is cancer free, but he's got another week to go on a catheter and he can't lift for a couple more weeks.

Robert DiNiro was just diagnosed with prostrate cancer.

The point of this thread was aimed at prostrate health...Save the peeps.
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I was hoping to compete in the indoor tanning industry come this Spring. I'm having much trouble devloping shade 35 in corelation to the undersides of my genitals. I've really been trying to develop this area but it's not going to happen overnight. Dedication and consistency are sure to pay have throught my endavour. All that is available in my area are the Protan-3500's which as WE ALL know conceal the low proton emitting uv substantials as required by the World Board of Indoor Tanning Regulations. If it is at all posibble for you to suppl yme with more information regarding shading of the groin for the luscious and fulfilled look, I would be obliged. Also, is discoloration of the nipples and giraffe like speckles directly related to the angle you lay on the apparatus? Please respond ASAP as I am in need to get started for next years competition. Thanks.
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LoL @ Becky

I am so sorry you feel I am insulting you and others here.....

I am not .... really ~ I am using a buffered sense of humor to reach out on a very important topic.

Without a sense of humor - you cannot possibly hope to discuss such horrible issues like Cancers....

My industry peers have been harmed by negative press ... our Our Industry Trade Orgs are of no real help to us.

In desperation - we reach out via our clients to get the FACTS out about UV light... its necessary place in our lives, the need for professional, trained operators providing the services, and the need for responsible use of this technology while tanning indoors and responsible behavior while outdoors.....

An irresponsible salon owner might advise my buddy .BrokeN to straddle the unit to get the most direct exposure on his lower nut area.....

I do not suggest this method - and frankly - would rather see .BrokeN use a sunless application on his genitals..... remember - our little swimmers are really touchy about heat

The spots .BrokeN mentions could very well be a fugus .... Sun Spots are a tiny living Yeast organisim that originate on the scalp and frequently found on animals skin as well....

Harmless to the body, they form a colony in a circular patch... which BLOCKS UV rays..... Many of us have these little friends - but unless you are an ADVANCED tanner - most won't show up as clearly.....

Preperations purchased at the salon only treat the spots..... so not really the best bet to keep em gone..... Your body seems to be HAVE TO BE a good breeding place in order for them to live.... my skin is too acidic (must match my humor?????) and therefore I have never had sunspots.....

A suggestion:

use an antifungal / dandruff shampoo FULL STRENGTH on all the spots.... leave on skin overnite.....

Lightly exfoliate the areas with a scrungy or your finger nails...

SHAMPOO with the SAME product - - leave on scalp 5 mins....

TAN.....

See if any portions of the spots lifted (they will be pink/burned)....
Repeat EVERY day until all spots are gone... and color is uniform....

This critter is not Issssshy - - - just a problem for those that are showing off a ton of skin
Hopefully no one feels insulted by this post....

If you are - you need to build up thicker skin then bigger muscles

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To the MainMan

Sorry my love.... my parents probably wanted a boy... but they got me ~ a girl that wants to protect as many boys and girls as possible with sharing the facts about UV.....

This is a Miscellaneous forum - so I did not feel this would be stepping on anyones ....toes ~ to discuss the health issues surrounding the prostate and all the other internal organs that are directly effected by LACK of UV and useable vitamin D ......

As to WHY our other thread got 'locked' .... I am confused. It was fun to play with kidz from the other school. And it looked like you guys were enjoying it too ~

Regardless.... my intention is NOT to piss off anyone (although I won't walk away from a bully without leaving my claw marks )

Consider this topic.... SAVE THE PEEP... food for thought
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sun-sational, do you offer prostate exams?
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Not offended in the least ~

I am not sure that what I do 'qualifies' as a prostate exam....

I am sure you will think of me one day.... and wonder ~ was this what she was warning me about ????

We are all into health and performance.....

Take the necessary steps to educate yourself before it's too late.

Moderation is Key ---- Early Detection is a life saver.

Off to save the Breasts on another site now ......


It's been nice..... Let me know if you every want to talk tanning


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Re: Not offended in the least ~

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I am not sure that what I do 'qualifies' as a prostate exam....

I am sure you will think of me one day.... and wonder ~ was this what she was warning me about ????

We are all into health and performance.....

Take the necessary steps to educate yourself before it's too late.

Moderation is Key ---- Early Detection is a life saver.

Off to save the Breasts on another site now ......


It's been nice..... Let me know if you every want to talk tanning


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you can save the breasts right here. why don't i save your breasts while you save my prostate.
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