"Legless" Routine Help

Caoimhin · 02-07-2007, 08:44 AM

The good lord's blessed me with legs that are all sorts of muscular. I have no need (or desire) to work on them, aside from the running I do.

Upper body's a different story. I understand that some basic, core exercises that seem to be leg exercises work the back, etc., but, if I want to focus on building upper body mass, can anyone suggest a routine that'll work chest, biceps, stomach, etc. without overworking any of these groups?

My problem is finding a three or four day routine that allows for enough rest for each upper body group, without throwing legs in there to give biceps, etc. a chance to recouperate. Chin-ups for my back on Tuesday also nail the biceps I beat up on Monday, for example. I'm working out M/T/Th/F now, with M & Th and T & F the same exercises, and I'm worried about recovery. Any thoughts?

jason_bh · 02-07-2007, 08:47 AM

*Awaiting the flames.

MISSINGLINK · 02-07-2007, 08:48 AM

If you want to do a routine where you don't train your legs is your choice and the more power to you. However, in my opinion, a routine that does not train legs is not very good and thought out.

nitrored · 02-07-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jason_bh

*Awaiting the flames.

*grabs some popcorn*
*throws some at ML*

Helis · 02-07-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Caoimhin

The good lord's blessed me with legs that are all sorts of muscular. I have no need (or desire) to work on them, aside from the running I do.

Some words of wisdom for you:

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Question - Do I really need to squat if my legs are already big?

First off, 3/4 of the people who ask this question are pussies. Don't be afraid of the squat. Learn to embrace it.

Having said that, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and we'll assume you are part of the 1/4 that isn't afraid of the squat. Determine what your goals are. If you want to get as big as possible, all over, then you will most definitely want to become a master of the squat. Your physical structure might not be ideal for the squat. You may have zero aspirations of becoming a powerlifting squat champion. You might not really give a flying fig how much you squat.

But if you SERIOUSLY want to be as large as you possibly can, all over, then yes, you will squat, even if you already have big legs.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

Meow.

MISSINGLINK · 02-07-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Helis

Some words of wisdom for you:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

Meow.

Helis, way to come through with the quote of the ****ing day. That speaks volume.!!!!!!!!. I'd rep you if I could.

Caoimhin · 02-07-2007, 08:56 AM

Great! Thanks. I'll just spend some time this week attempting to figure out whether or not I'm a pussy.

A final question, though: are there degrees of pussiness, and might this affect my squat? What about different types of pussies? Might I be a pussy, but the certain flavor of pussy, if you will, that could squat, and squat well?

(point taken -- I'm crazier than a shiathouse rat, so squats ain't a problem)

g_washington · 02-07-2007, 08:58 AM

A lot of my footballer friends dont do any legs... they say they dont need to because their legs are already big from all the running and kicking. Makes me laugh, surely lifting would make them stronger and better at football?

skibbi9 · 02-07-2007, 09:04 AM

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http://standingonthebox.blogspot.com...ng-ritual.html

You need squats and deads to build proper overall strength

dangoody27 · 02-07-2007, 09:40 AM

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You need squats and deads to build proper overall strength

This is true, unless of course you want to look like this:

SoCalDevil5969 · 02-07-2007, 09:46 AM

youre upper body will not develop as fast if you don't train your legs...as your quads, glutes, and hams are some of the biggest muscles in your body, training them will give your body cues to grow. these cues go to all muscles! not to mention, the best leg exercises don't just work your legs. squats train your core like nothing else, because you have to hold up heavy weight without your spine popping...if you have a weak core, theres no way you'll be able to bench a lot. deadlifts are an even better example of leg exercises that train other muscles: they train your core, forearms, upper back, and traps...aren't those a a part of your upper body? if you don't wanna do squats and deadlifts, they don't bother training anyways...unless you have some sort of pre-existing medical condition, that is. unless you have a legitimate excuse like that, you're just a pussy...enjoy experiencing slow growth and injury (another result of an unbalanced body)...good luck with your legless (or should i say NUT-less) training program!

Caoimhin · 02-07-2007, 09:51 AM

I said "point taken, " SoCal5969. I came here for help, not to be insulted by a teenager. If you want to be helpful, start by not being an ahole.

jason_bh · 02-07-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Caoimhin

I said "point taken, " SoCal5969. I came here for help, not to be insulted by a teenager. If you want to be helpful, start by not being an ahole.

LOL.

Everybody give the OP a break he did come here to learn. Hopefully we all can give him solid info that he will process and put to good use.

Caoimhin, are you open to doing a different kind of program? One that works the legs now?

Tboneduck · 02-07-2007, 12:13 PM

Dude, if you don't want to do legs, that is fine. These guys above make a great point as to why you should include a leg workout but that doesn't mean you have to. We sometimes lose sight of the fact that exercising can be considered a recreational hobby that people enjoy doing because they're improving their health. If you're trying to reach your body's max capacity be sure to include legs but otherwise eat right, stay consistent and enjoy your upper body results. Unless you plan on getting real serious about lifting, I don't think you need to worry about having an extremely unbalanced upper half any time soon.

nitrored · 02-07-2007, 12:20 PM

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We sometimes lose site of the fact that exercising can be considered a recreational hobby that people enjoy doing because they're improving their health.

It would be easier to remember if they would just change the name of the site to exercising-as-a-recreational-hobby-to-improve-health.com

Tboneduck · 02-07-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrored

It would be easier to remember if they would just change the name of the site to exercising-as-a-recreational-hobby-to-improve-health.com

Or maybe it would be easier on others if you realized the people have different goals. Can't you see that not everyone wants the same things you want? Quit being narrowminded and thinking for others. I agree 100% that you should squat and deadlift to reach max potential.

My point is, despite the name of the web site, not everyone that comes here is a balls-to-the-wall bodybuilder. It may be hard for you to understand but not everyone can dedicate a significant part of their lives to working out. This is a great site that is beneficail to people with all kinds of different goals and lifestyles. Therefore someone who chooses to not work his legs shouldn't be flamed. Unless that is, he's one of those guys who says he wants to be as big as possible but refuses to squat. Then yes, you can rip him a new one.

nitrored · 02-07-2007, 01:10 PM

It happens, you come on to a site populated by bodybuilding minded people and say something as ridiculous as 'I dont need to work my legs, I was blessed with big legs', your bound to get flamed a little. He did get some direction and advise amongst the really mild flaming.

SoCalDevil5969 · 02-07-2007, 01:39 PM

i didnt just talk trash in my post, i actually gave some insights, and i'm sorry i got a little carried away with the trash-talking. what i was really trying to say was that squatting/deadlifting will build your upper body...as far as a program, if you are interested in building your upper body more, isolate each upper body muscle group (chest, arms, back, shoulders, or however you'd like to do your training split) and do them each one day a week. then take a 5th day to lift legs. youll get the benefits of training legs, but you won't get over-bulky below the belt (although i'm pretty sure we'd all like to be, but that's a different kind of bulk...). i apologize again for being a dick before, i was trying to help with motivation. good luck

dangoody27 · 02-07-2007, 01:44 PM

He is eventually going to hit a point where his upper body goes nowhere and nobody wants to be in the gym just "running in place"

But, to each his own...

Tannoi · 02-07-2007, 07:18 PM

"It would be easier to remember if they would just change the name of the site to exercising-as-a-recreational-hobby-to-improve-health.com"

Hmmmmm.....that gives me an idea......