Black Doll/White Doll(Discuss)

[Thy_Kingdom]

http://www.komotv.com/home/video/5001856.html?video=YHI

Test done in the USA on black kids and their choice of dolls.

[DontTreadOnMe]

so she copied something that had been done 50 years ago?

[carrera0922]

Nice...I dont see what the big deal is

[Wendel_Clark_17]

The black children chose the white doll. It's hardly surprising. They are living in a white dominated society meaning the majority of marketing is geared towards the main economic market i.e. white America.

[Thy_Kingdom]

Your powers of observation astound me.

Yes, she copied it nearly half a century after segragation was outlawed. The findings were interesting although I think she should do this with different ethnic groups to come to a logical conclusion.

Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMe

so she copied something that had been done 50 years ago?

[carrera0922]

I think we have far greater problems going on in the world than black children preferring white dolls

[Thy_Kingdom]

I concur. Unfortunately the media will make this a larger issue than it is and we won't stop hearing about it until something more exciting happens and CNN gives up on the story.

[JAGERBOY]

Originally Posted by carrera0922

I think we have far greater problems going on in the world than black children preferring white dolls

So ignore any problems unless they are of the "greater" catergory. You are right, this 17 year old highschool student should have went to Iraq and done a documentary of that.

[carrera0922]

Originally Posted by JAGERBOY

So ignore any problems unless they are of the "greater" catergory. You are right, this 17 year old highschool student should have went to Iraq and done a documentary of that.

So what if a few black kids prefer the white doll. They said only a little over half chose it, but all the clips they showed were the ones favoring the white doll.

Should they all favor the black doll instead? Wouldnt that be against multiculturism and diversity?

[Environ]

Crap, she just scarred half those kids for life

"Can you show me the bad one?"

"Now, can you show me the one that's like you?"

How cruel is that?

[poppinmycollar]

KOMO-4 thats from Seattle where i live
reps

[JAGERBOY]

Originally Posted by carrera0922

So what if a few black kids prefer the white doll. They said only a little over half chose it, but all the clips they showed were the ones favoring the white doll.

Should they all favor the black doll instead? Wouldnt that be against multiculturism and diversity?

That wasn't my point at all. But there is something to be said when a black child chooses a white doll as the "good" doll, then the black doll as the "bad" doll.

[CandyStripes]

In this country a lot of people grow up beliving that black=bad and white=good. Heck look up the definition of black and white in the dictionary.

That being said, Racism is not that bad in the U.S. at least not compared to the majority of the country in the world.

[CandyStripes]

Originally Posted by JAGERBOY

That wasn't my point at all. But there is something to be said when a black child chooses a white doll as the "good" doll, then the black doll as the "bad" doll.

How dare you try to make commonsense in misc, shame on you.

[carrera0922]

Originally Posted by JAGERBOY

That wasn't my point at all. But there is something to be said when a black child chooses a white doll as the "good" doll, then the black doll as the "bad" doll.

Well usually dark colors are associated with evil and lighter colors with good, its always been like that

[m.i.c.h.a.e.l]

they should do that with women and pics of brad pitt and some bodybuilders, see what they say and then ask them why.

[CandyStripes]

Here's an interesting article.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Light-skinned immigrants in the United States make more money on average than those with darker complexions, and the chief reason appears to be discrimination, a researcher says.

Joni Hersch, a law and economics professor at Vanderbilt University, looked at a government survey of 2,084 legal immigrants to the United States from around the world and found that those with the lightest skin earned an average of 8 percent to 15 percent more than similar immigrants with much darker skin.

"On average, being one shade lighter has about the same effect as having an additional year of education," Hersch said.

The study also found that taller immigrants earn more than shorter ones, with an extra inch of height associated with a 1 percent increase in income.

Other researchers said the findings are consistent with other studies on color and point to a skin-tone prejudice that goes beyond race.

Hersh took into consideration other factors that could affect wages, such as English-language proficiency, education, occupation, race or country of origin, and found that skin tone still seemed to make a difference in earnings.

That means that if two similar immigrants from Bangladesh, for example, came to the United States at the same time, with the same occupation and ability to speak English, the lighter-skinned immigrant would make more money on average.

"I thought that once we controlled for race and nationality, I expected the difference to go away, but even with people from the same country, the same race — skin color really matters," she said, "and height."

Although many cultures show a bias toward lighter skin, Hersch said her analysis shows that the skin-color advantage was not due to preferential treatment for light-skinned people in their country of origin. The bias, she said, occurs in the U.S.

Economics professor Shelley White-Means of the University of Tennessee at Memphis said the study adds to the growing body of evidence that there is a "preference for whiteness" in America that goes beyond race.

Hersch drew her data from a 2003 federal survey of nearly 8,600 new immigrants. The survey used an 11-point scale for measuring skin tone, in which 0 represents an absence of color and 10 the darkest possible skin tone.

From those nearly 8,600 participants, she focused on the more than 2,000 who were working and whose skin tone had been recorded during face-to-face interviews.

William Darity Jr., an economics professor at the University of North Carolina, said Hersch's findings are similar to a study he co-authored last year on skin tone and wages among blacks.

"We estimate that dark- or medium-skinned blacks suffered a discriminatory penalty of anywhere from 10 percent to 15 percent relative to whites," he said. "This suggests people cue into appearance and draw inferences about capabilities and skills based on how they look."

Darity said it is not clear whether the bias is conscious or subconscious.

Hersch said her findings, which will be presented at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science next month in San Francisco, could support discrimination lawsuits based not on race, but on color.

"There are very few color discrimination suits, but they are on the rise," she said. "But these suits can be hard to prove."

[stealth_swimmer]

Originally Posted by carrera0922

Should they all favor the black doll instead? Wouldnt that be against multiculturism and diversity?

Yes, it would. Good point.

[carrera0922]

I also bet that if they did this with white children they would WANT them to pick the black doll. Because a white child choosing the white doll would be less favorable than a black child choosing a black doll. Pretty stupid if you ask me

[JAGERBOY]

Originally Posted by carrera0922

I also bet that if they did this with white children they would WANT them to pick the black doll. Because a white child choosing the white doll would be less favorable than a black child choosing a black doll. Pretty stupid if you ask me

I would also be curious to see this...

[carrera0922]

Originally Posted by JAGERBOY

I would also be curious to see this...

The funny thing is that if all the white children picked the white doll they would be screaming "RACISM!"

[sword_]

Ha! yeah that was quite cruel but she was making a point.

Originally Posted by Environ

Crap, she just scarred half those kids for life

"Can you show me the bad one?"

"Now, can you show me the one that's like you?"

How cruel is that?

[movingforward]

Yeah, well it's only natural isn't it.