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Who said Christianity & Science dont mix?
Famous Christian Scientists
Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543)
Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1627)
Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
Rene Descartes (1596-1650)
Isaac Newton (1642-1727)
Robert Boyle (1791-1867)
Michael Faraday (1791-1867)
Gregor Mendel (1822-1884)
William Thomson Kelvin (1824-1907)
Max Planck (1858-1947)
Albert Einstein (1879-1955) "Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe."
Hopefully you can learn to understand how Christianity promotes science and is not against it.
These famous scientists have probably revealed more than any other religion in our time.
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Albert Einstein was not a Christian in any way
this thread is ****ing stupid.
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Scientists before darwin had no other alternative to turn to other than religion
and LOL AT EINSTEIN BEING A CHRISTIAN AHAHAHAHA
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I don't think Einstein belongs on that list.
BTW, wasn't the father of genetics a priest or something?
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I don't think Einstein belongs on that list.
BTW, wasn't the father of genetics a priest or something?
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Mendel, yeah (I think). A priest also invented the theory of the Big Bang.
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Human virgin birth
Christianity: Possible
Science: Not possible
Resurrection
Christianity: Possible
Science: Not possible
Sorry, Christianity and science are not compatible.
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LULZ AT Einstein!
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism's." - Albert Einstein, New York Times, 19 April 1955
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large_Emu
Scientists before darwin had no other alternative to turn to otehr than religion
and LOL AT EINSTEIN BEING A CHRISTIAN AHAHAHAHA
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Some of those people listed along with other scientists from before Darwin were actually philosophers who made arguments for God. I don't think people who were simply fake theists would actually write arguments for God. Not even Darwin was an atheist (not religious at all but he said he didn't want to be called an atheist because he wasn't one).
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Some of those people listed along with scientists from before Darwin were actually philosophers who made arguments for God. I don't think people who were simply fake theists would actually write arguments for God. Not even Darwin was an atheist (not religious at all but he said he didn't want to be called an atheist because he wasn't one).
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93% of scientists nowadays are agnostic/atheist in fact about 93% of the higher inteeligent people are atheist/agnostic IN FACT 93% of Mensa are agnostic/atheist (serious)
oh and once against, they didn't not know about evolution
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What if they knew almost every star in the whole funking universe has a planet circeling it? Haha. Funny.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large_Emu
Scientists before darwin had no other alternative to turn to other than religion
and LOL AT EINSTEIN BEING A CHRISTIAN AHAHAHAHA
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Yes thats why he went to a church all his life, to not be a Christian. Dumb ass.
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Yes thats why he went to a church all his life, to not be a Christian. Dumb ass.
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Originally Posted by LordDarwin
LULZ AT Einstein!
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism's." - Albert Einstein, New York Times, 19 April 1955
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings."
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Bro, now you are just lying. Einstein was not religious, period.
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth."
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Large_Emu
93% of scientists nowadays are agnostic/atheist in fact about 93% of the higher inteeligent people are atheist/agnostic IN FACT 93% of Mensa are agnostic/atheist (serious)
oh and once against, they didn't not know about evolution
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93% is the highest number you can find on the internet. There are many surveys out there with various numbers.
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Yes thats why he went to a church all his life, to not be a Christian. Dumb ass.
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Jesus Christ...
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For the people misunderstanding this.
I said these Christians promoted science. That does not mean absalutetly everything between science and Christianity goes hand in hand. But they do mix.
This was created for the myth that is all religion is against science.
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93% is the highest number you can find on the internet. There are many surveys out there with various numbers.
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its common knowledge brah.
those were taken from the laest surveys by the way....
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Yup.
That comment deserved a neg. And even if he was religious, he wouldn't believe in Jesus' divinity because he was Jewish by blood.
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Yup.
That comment deserved a neg.
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Sure did, unfortunately I'm on recharge
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Originally Posted by Civicz
For the people misunderstanding this.
I said these Christians promoted science. That does not mean absalutetly everything between science and Christianity goes hand in hand. But they do mix.
This was created for the myth that is all religion is against science.
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Read post #6.
The major tenets of Christianity are incompatible with science.
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Yup.
That comment deserved a neg. And even if he was religious, he wouldn't believe in Jesus' divinity because he was Jewish by blood.
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Hence why I added
"Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe."
But he did go to Church all his life.
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Read post #6.
The major tenets of Christianity are incompatible with science.
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Read again..........
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Hence why I added
"Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe."
But he did go to Church all his life.
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Most atheists recognise teh possibility for an existance of God, we just think it's VERY unlikely.
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Most atheists recognise teh possibility for an existance of God, we just think it's VERY unlikely.
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You think its unlikely because of religion and the way they percieve God?
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Read again..........
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I did.
No one has ever said that Christians cannot or have not advanced science.
But you are incorrect when you say that Christianity and science can mix (are compatible). That's simply false.
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I did.
No one has ever said that Christians cannot or have not advanced science.
But you are incorrect when you say that Christianity and science can mix (are compatible). That's simply false.
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They do mix just not 100%
Or they would not be a long line of famous Christian scientists
but yes there is a HUGE thing setting them apart.
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They do mix just not 100%
Or they would not be a long line of famous Christian scientists
but yes there is a HUGE thing setting them apart.
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The major tenets of Christianity are not compatible with science.
If you take away the virgin birth or Jesus' resurrection, what is left of Christianity?
Christianity doesn't promote science as your incorrectly claimed in your OP. Christians using the scientific method can advance science.
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Famous Christian Scientists
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Albert Einstein Although never coming to belief in a personal God,
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Wut. This thread is idiotic. Your own post shows that he was not a Christian. As for the others, they actually fought against the church to change the dogma. The church did everything it could to suppress scientific information which went against the current beliefs. What they did was in spite of Christianity and it doesn't change the fact that the Bible is full of scientifically flawed information.
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For the people misunderstanding this.
I said these Christians promoted science. That does not mean absalutetly everything between science and Christianity goes hand in hand. But they do mix.
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lol, another post that contradicts itself.
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OK, science and religion can not and do not mix.
in b4 you mention religious scientists.
The fact that a scientist is religious does not mean the two ideologies can have anything in common.
Science in a nutshell: Nothing is ever accepted without good, solid evidence and good research.
Religion in a nutshell: The less evidence, the more rewarded you are for believing it.
Can you see how those two are at odds? A religious scientist is using compartmentalization, whereby they say, "I'll be a true scientist for everything except when it comes to religion." If you faith in anything without solid evidence, you're not an ideal scientist. That is an unquestionable fact. Science and religion are equally corrosive to each other. They're oil and water. One can lay on top of the other, but they will never mix, because their bases can not possibly be any more different. You literally might as well say that fire and water aren't incompatible.
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The major tenets of Christianity are not compatible with science.
If you take away the virgin birth or Jesus' resurrection, what is left of Christianity?
Christianity doesn't promote science as your incorrectly claimed in your OP. Christians using the scientific method can advance science.
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Any rebuttal civicz, or can we /thread?
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bwuh?
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