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10-25-2007, 07:36 PM
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i cant believe there is such a huge debate about this
could a boxer beat a MMAer, sure, if he is able to land that perfect punch before the takedown but thats a big if.
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10-25-2007, 07:48 PM
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king baer i already had said that, i addressed the topic and then added more thoughts of mine. in any situation we dont know whatll happen hell depending on the mma guy, he could KO the boxer with a punch. But ya id bet on average, more than 50 or even 60% of the time, an mma guy would submit a boxer or gnp him, etc. this was answered in the 2nd post... but were 5 pages in, so im just talking some realistic scenarios.
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10-26-2007, 09:53 AM
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lol talk about bias
if you havn't Boxed, I mean REALLY Boxed. Don't sit there as a keyboard warrior and say that other areas require more Conditioning...
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"keyboard warrior" ? I'm 7-0 in MMA. enough said
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10-26-2007, 09:59 AM
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Is this thread going on so long simply because it was started by a girl???
Cuz, I mean, don't we have and then dismiss this same debate about every five days around here??
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10-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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Well I think the question must also be asked where the fight is held? Boxing uses footwork for speed to compinsate for much of the kicks, sweeps etc that are used in MMA. Boxing developed as a sport...point blank. It developed early as a competative sport than Martial arts. In doing so this eliminated the need for real life situations to be developed around such as pavement or weapons work. If you were talking on the street a fight between two equally balanced individuals (which would be impossible to find in the first place) I would put my money on the MMA guy. In the ring, I would probably do the same, but I am biased becuase I am MMA. But it could probably go either way, someone made a good point about the concentration on "knock out" blows in Boxing as opposed to MMA. This is an end all to a fight folks. Also obviously Martial arts especially MMA is specifically designed to have a whole BUNCH of tools available at the practicer's disposal. Thats my 2cents
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10-26-2007, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheClips
Is this thread going on so long simply because it was started by a girl???
Cuz, I mean, don't we have and then dismiss this same debate about every five days around here??
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Yes, and it's twice as funny because she stopped posting in here a while ago.
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10-26-2007, 12:01 PM
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Yes, and it's twice as funny because she stopped posting in here a while ago.
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I knew this would happen right when I saw it was started by her but damn I thought it would have died by now. The o/p isn't even that hot, she's not bad. (yes e-standards)
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10-26-2007, 12:46 PM
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Tastes great. Less filling.
This thread is 6 pages too long.
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10-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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I think MMA well win hands down!
Now Bruce Lee vs. Muhammad Ali: who would win in a fight?
I think Bruce Lee would win. He is the fist MMA fighter in the world.
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Originally Posted by kag808
Ok I'm not sure if this is a repost so I apologize if it is but there's been this debate for quite some time now as to who would win if there was a match between an MMA fighter and a boxer. People have asked my opinion on this and I honestly think that an MMA fighter will come out on top. No disrespect to anyone who's a boxer of course because I have much respect for anyone who steps into a ring knowing they may very well get their ass kicked. But this is how I see it... A boxer is pretty limited as far as what they can do. Their specialty is punching. Now you get someone in that sport to step into a cage with an MMA fighter who's skilled in BJJ, Muay Thai, Grappling, Kickboxing, etc., that person is skilled in multiple forms of combat. Hey, if you're going to punch, you might as well punch, kick, knee, elbow, put them in a triangle, choke em out, etc... right? I'd just like to know your thoughts on this as it's been brought up several times to me. Thanks guys!
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10-28-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chimchim1973
lol talk about bias
if you havn't Boxed, I mean REALLY Boxed. Don't sit there as a keyboard warrior and say that other areas require more Conditioning...
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"keyboard warrior" ? I'm 7-0 in MMA. enough said
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how are you in Boxing?
if your record is 0-0 don't embarass yourself by responding
point is if you hav'nt done it, you can't comment on it
as was rightly said by someone earlier, tho possibly not in this thread
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11-04-2007, 12:55 PM
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"A boxer is a lion. The best predator on land, but throw them in a shark tank where they can't swim and they become just another meal." -Renzo Gracie
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11-04-2007, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magic man
"A boxer is a lion. The best predator on land, but throw them in a shark tank where they can't swim and they become just another meal." -Renzo Gracie
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good quote
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11-04-2007, 01:11 PM
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Boxer vs MMA in a street fight i would bet moeny on the MMA guy...But it seems like ALOT of people here overlook boxing n they think its just throwing puches its alot more than.
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11-04-2007, 03:09 PM
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If its a street fight then you can bet the boxer is going to be playing by the rules either.
Traditionally MMA fighting style is far superior to boxing. But I think in terms of conditioning, boxers can take a much better beating and can fight longer. But the advantage of a boxer is negated due to MMA's expereince in submissions
But if its a street fight, it really depends on how smart the boxer is. If he tries to box while ignorantly neglecting that the other person will take him down and put him in an arm bar, he will lose.
So no matter which way you cut it, it always depends on the fighters. But MMA is the superior 'style' (if you can call MMA a style).
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02-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Do you see what you have started Karen, lol.
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02-16-2008, 08:28 PM
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02-16-2008, 08:39 PM
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we will see what happens when maywheather starts fighting mma. I'm sure he will dominate stand up game.
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02-16-2008, 08:41 PM
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02-16-2008, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Heavensport
we will see what happens when maywheather starts fighting mma. I'm sure he will dominate stand up game.
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he's not fighting in mma, theres been talks of a rematch with de la hoya later this year
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02-17-2008, 12:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magic man
"A boxer is a lion. The best predator on land, but throw them in a shark tank where they can't swim and they become just another meal." -Renzo Gracie
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I get his point, but I don't think the Lion was the best example
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No-Dope-Crew.
here's something more constructive
I helped a guy gain 1/4" on his biceps with 1 workout, and it was definatly volume training
eat that you buncha HIT nazi's
(also helped Jesin gain 6/10 " and Q gained 1/10th", also DoctorX2k2 gained 1/4")
-unrelated bicep comment-
and btw, I can Hammer Curl the 120's dangit!
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02-17-2008, 01:19 PM
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If you look at the Martial Artist who come into the UFC and MMA in general and do REALLY well, boxers usually dont get pretty far, theres been tons of fantastic boxers golden gloves and what not who start to learn BBJ etc. and try MMA but they get ate up by opponents who have come from strong wrestling and BBJ backgrounds.
All points have pretty much proven that if its a boxing match, the boxer, a MMA match, the MMA fighter, and a street fight would 9 times out of ten go to the MMA fighter.
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02-18-2008, 09:00 AM
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you guys are implying if mma fighters are any good, it takes many many many many years to even be a "decent" mma fighter
i've seen so many people in the gym (i do boxing) that do mma and talk so much **** but has a takedown and sprawl worse than me, cant even throw a hard leg kick, and is so rigid in there stance its sad
just because someone boxes does not mean all they know is boxing, it will be an even fight, just whoever is able to capitalize in there comfort level will win
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02-18-2008, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc936
you guys are implying if mma fighters are any good, it takes many many many many years to even be a "decent" mma fighter
i've seen so many people in the gym (i do boxing) that do mma and talk so much **** but has a takedown and sprawl worse than me, cant even throw a hard leg kick, and is so rigid in there stance its sad
just because someone boxes does not mean all they know is boxing, it will be an even fight, just whoever is able to capitalize in there comfort level will win
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i've been saying this, but its like talking to a brick wall in here.
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02-18-2008, 01:03 PM
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we will see what happens when maywheather starts fighting mma. I'm sure he will dominate stand up game.
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Haha if Mayweather fought MMA there wouldn't BE a standup game. That'd be the fastest takedown ever.
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02-18-2008, 06:24 PM
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floyd mayweather wont switch to mma, hes not that stupid, hes making 10 million a fight compared to 170k in mma, he just does that for a market ploy to sell his fights to mma fanatics
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02-18-2008, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc936
floyd mayweather wont switch to mma, hes not that stupid, hes making 10 million a fight compared to 170k in mma, he just does that for a market ploy to sell his fights to mma fanatics
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yup why would you turn to mma when you are the 2nd highest paid athlete behind tiger woods? dude made 60 million dollars in 1 year! with only 2 fights.
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02-18-2008, 08:29 PM
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I'm going to try and find the Video of a Boxer vs a Kickboxer. The Boxer gets destroyed, and assuming the Boxer isn't trained in Protecting Leg Kicks, Knees, Clinches, Takedowns, GnP and Submissions then he would be screwed in an MMA fight IMO
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02-18-2008, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by weetbix
I'm going to try and find the Video of a Boxer vs a Kickboxer. The Boxer gets destroyed, and assuming the Boxer isn't trained in Protecting Leg Kicks, Knees, Clinches, Takedowns, GnP and Submissions then he would be screwed in an MMA fight IMO
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another tard thinking its true because he saw a video, read what i said before, first off 95% of the kickboxers today have ****ty leg kicks, have you seen asian contender? the "top muay thai" fighters in the world, some of them couldnt even get a solid kick in, i haven't seen anyone in UFC give solid leg kicks consistantly for it to even matter
again its all about who can capitalize on there own comfort level
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02-18-2008, 08:38 PM
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02-18-2008, 11:53 PM
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another tard thinking its true because he saw a video, read what i said before, first off 95% of the kickboxers today have ****ty leg kicks, have you seen asian contender? the "top muay thai" fighters in the world, some of them couldnt even get a solid kick in, i haven't seen anyone in UFC give solid leg kicks consistantly for it to even matter
again its all about who can capitalize on there own comfort level
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