Pullups: Ultimate measure of strength - Page 6

I dont work at Ballys · 10-14-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bbron

All you people that think pullups are a true test of strengh thats a bunch of bull!! Its true wat some one said below that all you peole that think that can't even lift more then 200 pounds in anything. All you people Behind the Necks Pull ups are a true test of strengh i bet none of you people that are doing all these pullups can't even do 5 BEHIND THE NECK PULL UPS

easy there killer.

Guardian · 10-14-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anikey

You see people benching 250+, squatting and deadlifting 300+ etc.. how many of them can even do 10 pullups? I believe pullups are a true measure of strength.

This morning I saw a 260 lb classmate (probably 13% bf) do 20 pullups non-stop... now THAT's real strength.

Bs, how many times in life do you need to do a "pullup" type movement? Hardly ever

True measures of strength are excercises that are most likely to be mimicked in real life situations. Because of this Id say excercises like the squat and deadlift are the best because just about everyone does a variation of them in real life situations on a daily basis whether it be getting into your car or picking up a briefcase.

Above Existence · 10-14-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bbron

All you people that think pullups are a true test of strengh thats a bunch of bull!! Its true wat some one said below that all you peole that think that can't even lift more then 200 pounds in anything. All you people Behind the Necks Pull ups are a true test of strengh i bet none of you people that are doing all these pullups can't even do 5 BEHIND THE NECK PULL UPS

LOL I probably can't do 1 behind the neck puul-ups. LOL

spawn_of_tarzan · 10-14-2007, 10:29 PM

I believe pullups are the best standard for pulling strength(weighted chins/pullups, not high numbers of repetitions)...pertaining to those of us who can do one arm chins and ridiculous numbers on weighted chins. However, it doesn't cover the full body(i.e. lower body or pushing strength), there is no single excercise out there that can determine that. I can attest to this cause I can do one arm chins and almost a 200% bodyweight chin but can barely squat 225.

Tyciol · 10-14-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by W8isGR8

Age is just a number....
.....I said to the judge. She looked 18.

You did nothing wrong 'cept breakin the law sir.

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Originally Posted by irishjack923

guys...look at gorillas and monkeys n ****. all they do is carry their own bodyweight from trees and branches. that is why they are so fukin strong! also like gymnasts cuz they do the same to a degree thats why they can do pushups with no legs

Gorillas are actually pretty damn lazy. Stop reading Matt Furey's stupid monkey program, and avoid that 'irish bareknuckle boxing' too while you're at it. The reason gorillas are stronger than us is because they're a separate species who are huge with high levels of testosterone.

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Originally Posted by bbron

All you people that think pullups are a true test of strengh thats a bunch of bull!! Its true wat some one said below that all you peole that think that can't even lift more then 200 pounds in anything. All you people Behind the Necks Pull ups are a true test of strengh i bet none of you people that are doing all these pullups can't even do 5 BEHIND THE NECK PULL UPS

Why did you put in the title 'for girls'? Are they less difficult behind the neck for guys? I guess they are harder, but it's probably better to just do it normally and add weight to increase difficult for useful strength.

soonerstrength · 10-15-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FunkLord

Hmm, I watched worlds strongest man, and they didn't do pullups. Man, you should tell them about your discovery! All the time they are wasting, lifting atlas stones and pulling around semi trucks... all they gotta do is so who can do the most pullups!

Perfect.... LOL... you hit the nail on the head... :0)

Rebar24 · 10-15-2007, 08:46 AM

im only 180 lb and i hang 25 lbs around my waist and i do about 25-30 3-4 set. pull up and with excellent form. no bull ****. dosent matter how big he is is all bout form. i bet ur buddy he is doing some bull **** pull up. and i can challenge him anytime for pull up.

I dont work at Ballys · 10-15-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebar24

im only 180 lb and i hang 25 lbs around my waist and i do about 25-30 3-4 set. pull up and with excellent form. no bull ****. dosent matter how big he is is all bout form. i bet ur buddy he is doing some bull **** pull up. and i can challenge him anytime for pull up.

wow you must be pretty hardc@re man.

brad71983 · 10-15-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by I dont work at Ballys

wow you must be pretty hardc@re man.

i think hes on dat der bsn, whatout you weaksauce bastard

commanderfreak · 10-15-2007, 10:40 AM

the guys who benchs 1010 pounds probley can only do 10 pull ups dont mean hes not FLIPIN STRONG AS HELL

I dont work at Ballys · 10-15-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by commanderfreak

the guys who benchs 1010 pounds probley can only do 10 pull ups dont mean hes not FLIPIN STRONG AS HELL

are the pullups shirted or raw?

havefunwith2005 · 10-15-2007, 11:51 AM

all i wanna say is this, pull ups are nice and surely, a test of strenght,but i also agree that the benching is a better measure of strenght.
also, for me, pull ups are a way of testing how strong my arms are.

Marc27Default · 10-15-2007, 01:21 PM

A true test of strength would be a lift that involves the most muscles of the body. Legs are the strongest part of your body so naturally the lift would involve these in some way.

Lifts that use a lot of the muscle on the body.

Clean and press (in a way two lifts done one after the other so this is kind of cheating) Lots of legs, lots of lower torso, lots of arm and shoulder, strong grip

Deadlift - Lots of leg depending on style, probably more lower torso than any other lift, most of the muscles of the entire back, strong grip

Hip squat with arm supports - (This would be a weight supported under the hips by a belt, you would squat and use the arms and upper body as well as your legs to help lift the body back up to a standing position.) I sort of just made this up but theoretically a hip squat with upperbody help would use more muscles than any other lift.

ThickAsABrick · 10-15-2007, 01:45 PM

+ arm wrestling

Duckenheimer · 10-15-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick

+ arm wrestling

Thumb wrestling.

ryan250 · 10-15-2007, 02:13 PM

easy there killer.

lmfao

bbron · 10-15-2007, 03:49 PM

of course one arm chins are nothing hars if ur in good shape try behinf the neck pull ups i bet u can't even do one

I dont work at Ballys · 10-15-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bbron

of course one arm chins are nothing hars if ur in good shape try behinf the neck pull ups i bet u can't even do one

oh good. you're back.

jdmalm123 · 10-15-2007, 03:54 PM

Tests of strength...

Car pulling/pushing
Cow lifting
Tolerating comments on some threads

spawn_of_tarzan · 10-15-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bbron

of course one arm chins are nothing hars if ur in good shape try behinf the neck pull ups i bet u can't even do one

behind the neck pullups are chickensh**. Alls I do is chinups/pullups in all their variations, along with rope climbing when I get the opportunity. However I will admit I suck in pretty much anything other than chinning and pullup movements

brad71983 · 10-15-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmalm123

Tests of strength...

Car pulling/pushing
Cow lifting
Tolerating comments on some threads

can i get a spot on this heffer over here?

jdmalm123 · 10-15-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brad71983

can i get a spot on this heffer over here?

It's all you! It's all you!

Newf13 · 10-15-2007, 06:09 PM

Well I go to the gym with a guy who has been lifting longer then I have been alive. Hes JACKED! He can bench 340 and can do 4 sets of pullups and each set starts from 15 and by the last set hes down to 6-8 depends on how good of a day. THIS GUY IS JACKED!!

I dont work at Ballys · 10-15-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Newf13

Well I go to the gym with a guy who has been lifting longer then I have been alive. Hes JACKED! He can bench 340 and can do 4 sets of pullups and each set starts from 15 and by the last set hes down to 6-8 depends on how good of a day. THIS GUY IS JACKED!!

OK!!!!!!!!! but is he JACKED!!?!??!!!???111

kronz · 10-15-2007, 06:48 PM

Pullups are a test of how good you are at pullups. Not total body strength.

pitty · 10-15-2007, 06:57 PM

pullups/chinups seem to be a lot about how often you're doing them, some term like "greasing the groove" gets thrown around a bit in lifting terminology which i take to mean exactly this.

i used to do pullups every session and it wasn't much to do 15 or 20 for a couple of sets, but having really reduced the number i do each week (sometimes they get left as only sets of ten for a warm up before back day) i am finding that 10 or 12 while not maxing out seem a lot harder than they used to, even though i'm stronger than i was three months ago.

closest post to accurate thus far I'd imagine was the power to weight ratio aspect. When doing chins with a mate, who weighed ~20kg more than I, we would both do say a set of 10 reps but i would strap anywhere from 15 or 20kg to a weight belt, so strength wise we were on a par, yet strength to weight ratio i would have him by a bit.

and yes, I'm still striving to hit 70kg's bw and fully see that posting high chinup numbers is a more a function of my slight frame than any great strength imbued in me.

flangmasterj · 10-15-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kronz

Pullups are a test of how good you are at pullups. Not total body strength.

Bingo!

This sentence just resolved this entire argument.

Rebar24 · 10-16-2007, 12:14 AM

i always do front chin wide crap pullup and behind chin wide crap. pull up. it give v-shape and big massive back. even arnold he done it back in has days. I never done cable pull down. i dont believe of it. I use to do them before when i was 19 it didnt give me much massive as much wide crap pull ups

Tyciol · 10-16-2007, 12:30 AM

Why don't they invent a lift where you combine a chin-up with a squat? This would solve everyone's objections.

Basically, you have a barbell heavier than you can squat, and your hands hold on to a bar and are flexed at the top, and get extended when you are fully squatted. It might limit the RoM a bit but whatever.

WAYSOUTH · 10-16-2007, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MS1987

but.... what is the upper body squat?

Weighted dips of course! Better than the bench press imo.