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    How many of you guys are doing the program alone without a spotter? I'm worried I'll need someone to assist me when doing bench press. Since you're always supposed to be able to do the reps then maybe it's not necessary to train with someone? Thanks.
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    correct me if im rong,

    Monday
    Squat (100 lbs easy number)
    bench
    dead

    Wednesday
    squat (80%=80 lbs)
    press
    clean

    Friday
    Squat 100+5 lbs
    bench
    deadlift

    would this be correct? also its just mon off wed off fri off off mon off etc
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    correct me if im rong,

    Monday
    Squat (100 lbs easy number)
    bench
    dead

    Wednesday
    squat (80%=80 lbs)
    press
    clean

    Friday
    Squat 100+5 lbs
    bench
    deadlift

    would this be correct? also its just mon off wed off fri off off mon off etc
    Read the first three posts of this dam* thread
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    Bench Press: 220 3x5 (2/20/2012): 225x5 (4/28/2012): 245 x1 (5/4/2012)
    Strict Overhead Press: 150 x4 (4/21/2012)
    Back Squat: 280 x5 (3/9/2012): 305 x1 (5/4/2012)
    Power Clean: 165 5x3 (4/2/2012); 195x1 (4/13/2012)
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    Originally Posted by cody333 View Post
    Read the first three posts of this dam* thread
    ... i did i was told in the book to go up 5lbs each week..
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    correct me if im rong,

    Monday
    Squat (100 lbs easy number)
    bench
    dead

    Wednesday
    squat (80%=80 lbs)
    press
    clean

    Friday
    Squat 100+5 lbs
    bench
    deadlift

    would this be correct? also its just mon off wed off fri off off mon off etc
    i'm assuming you're talking about advanced novice:
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...Novice_Program
    you add weight as you would normally (5lbs), except on the light days. what you posted is correct. the following Monday you would squat 110. if you can add more than 5lbs on the squat and you're on advanced novice, you probably shouldn't be.
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    Originally Posted by Oxyuranus View Post
    i'm assuming you're talking about advanced novice:
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...Novice_Program
    you add weight as you would normally (5lbs), except on the light days. what you posted is correct. the following Monday you would squat 110. if you can add more than 5lbs on the squat and you're on advanced novice, you probably shouldn't be.
    Thank you for your help
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    ... i did i was told in the book to go up 5lbs each week..
    so you deadlift 2x a week?
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    Originally Posted by Solus77 View Post
    How many of you guys are doing the program alone without a spotter? I'm worried I'll need someone to assist me when doing bench press. Since you're always supposed to be able to do the reps then maybe it's not necessary to train with someone? Thanks.
    I'm with you man, I always work out with a spotter. If you work out in a gym then somebody will see that you're stuck under the bar and help you. You can always ask for a spot on bench, most of the time people aren't dicks.

    Ion3213, no you're doing it wrong because I'm assuming that you're just starting out. You add 5 lbs every day, you do not do 80% on wednesday. Progressively add 5 lbs per workout.
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    Originally Posted by cody333 View Post
    so you deadlift 2x a week?
    '

    wtf r u saying were did i ever say that
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    correct me if im rong,

    Monday
    Squat (100 lbs easy number)
    bench
    dead

    Wednesday
    squat (80%=80 lbs)
    press
    clean

    Friday
    Squat 100+5 lbs
    bench
    deadlift

    would this be correct? also its just mon off wed off fri off off mon off etc
    right here? smart guy.
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    Current PRs:
    Front Squat: 202.5 3x5, 210 3x3
    Bench Press: 220 3x5 (2/20/2012): 225x5 (4/28/2012): 245 x1 (5/4/2012)
    Strict Overhead Press: 150 x4 (4/21/2012)
    Back Squat: 280 x5 (3/9/2012): 305 x1 (5/4/2012)
    Power Clean: 165 5x3 (4/2/2012); 195x1 (4/13/2012)
    Deadlift: 245 x5 (4/19/2012)
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    '

    wtf r u saying were did i ever say that
    unless "dead" means you die?
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    Back Squat: 280 x5 (3/9/2012): 305 x1 (5/4/2012)
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    Originally Posted by Solus77 View Post
    How many of you guys are doing the program alone without a spotter? I'm worried I'll need someone to assist me when doing bench press. Since you're always supposed to be able to do the reps then maybe it's not necessary to train with someone? Thanks.
    I never really trained with anyone. With experience you'll learn when not to go for that last rep. But if you are at a gym, ask somebody to spot you. The only hard part is telling them not to touch the bar unless you tell them to.

    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    ... i did i was told in the book to go up 5lbs each week..
    You did not read the first three posts of this thread.

    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    '

    wtf r u saying were did i ever say that
    Uh, you said it.

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    right here? smart guy.
    Yup. There it is!

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    unless "dead" means you die?
    Could be, could be. We'll find out soon enough, no?
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    well ya the program calls for dead lifting every other workout doesnt it?
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    well ya the program calls for dead lifting every other workout doesnt it?
    wow
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    Originally Posted by cody333 View Post
    wow
    dude i dont give a **** im asking ****ing questions either answer them or dont
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    dude i dont give a **** im asking ****ing questions either answer them or dont
    Seriously, you need to read the first three posts of this thread.

    What you wrote out is not any of the programs. We could point out why but if you are missing that information you are probably missing a heck of a lot of other things, too. Best to read the first three posts of this thread so that you are sure to be aware of everything.

    Nobody here wants to spoon feed you one thing at a time because you are unwilling to do even the simplest of things yourself.
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    Originally Posted by ion3213 View Post
    dude i dont give a **** im asking ****ing questions either answer them or dont
    Go to pg 300 in the book and see what it says.

    I can kinda see how you think deadlifting can be 2x a week. Not completely clear, even in the book IMO. It's not, however. Once 1x5.

    EDIT: actually, I went back to the book... It's pretty damn clear. I retract the previous statement. Oops.
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    One last thing guys, do you recommend taking whey and/or other supplements? I was thinking of just eating normally because I'll be kind of short of money. Is it a considerable factor or can I satisfy daily needs just by eating regularly? I have a big problem with eating and I tended to procrastinate and even skip meals because I really don't like eating too much, so if taking whey (which is basically drinking) helps significantly with meeting daily intake then that's another helpful factor. I'm not sure what Rippetoe says about diet because I don't have the book right now, but since he isn't really much of an authority on nutrition anyway I wouldn't take him all too seriously even if I had it. I used to buy whey but stopped and, personally, I don't think it's cost-effective, thought it can certainly help, especially post-workout. So what's your take on this?
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    Originally Posted by Solus77 View Post
    One last thing guys, do you recommend taking whey and/or other supplements? I was thinking of just eating normally because I'll be kind of short of money. Is it a considerable factor or can I satisfy daily needs just by eating regularly? I have a big problem with eating and I tended to procrastinate and even skip meals because I really don't like eating too much, so if taking whey (which is basically drinking) helps significantly with meeting daily intake then that's another helpful factor. I'm not sure what Rippetoe says about diet because I don't have the book right now, but since he isn't really much of an authority on nutrition anyway I wouldn't take him all too seriously even if I had it. I used to buy whey but stopped and, personally, I don't think it's cost-effective, thought it can certainly help, especially post-workout. So what's your take on this?
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    As I don't want videos of me to be online, is there someone knowledgeable who's willing to check my work via private messge?
    Send them to me...after reading this:

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    Originally Posted by NZninja101 View Post
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    Regarding microplates... Would I simply go to a hardware store and purchase two 0.5 kilogram pieces of chain, or what?
    http://stronglifts.com/madcow/Topics/Microloading.htm

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    Boxing 1-2 times a week (weekends) at mid to high intensity, a bad idea while on SS or no?
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    Originally Posted by Ironbound27 View Post
    Boxing 1-2 times a week (weekends) at mid to high intensity, a bad idea while on SS or no?
    Have you read the first three posts of this thread yet?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Have you read the first three posts of this thread yet?

    Makes sense. Thanks Farley!
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    I'll try to shoot the videos on Wednesday.
    But I still got some goood advise last time I did the squat. The guy told me that I'm doing it the wrong way.
    Then he showed me how to do it: He put the bar on his neck, put his feet straight and barely did an half squat.

    I asked him why professionals are doing it different than him, why they're going deep. He responded that I would f*** up my bones that way and that I can ask any doctor. I think what caught his attention was that I really go deep.

    Another guy was standing next to us and listening. He also approched me and said I'm doing it the right way and that the guy was talking BS.
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    Originally Posted by guilard View Post
    I'll try to shoot the videos on Wednesday.
    But I still got some goood advise last time I did the squat. The guy told me that I'm doing it the wrong way.
    Then he showed me how to do it: He put the bar on his neck, put his feet straight and barely did an half squat.

    I asked him why professionals are doing it different than him, why they're going deep. He responded that I would f*** up my bones that way and that I can ask any doctor. I think what caught his attention was that I really go deep.

    Another guy was standing next to us and listening. He also approched me and said I'm doing it the right way and that the guy was talking BS.
    Most people don't have a fuking clue.
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    Originally Posted by guilard View Post
    I He responded that I would f*** up my bones that way and that I can ask any doctor.
    haha. genius
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    Big thanks to Farley, Cody, and other contributors for this very helpful thread.

    I'm starting the classic routine. Been watching the DVD and working on my form. I'm using light weights while I get more comfortable with all the moves. Only thing I'm unsure about is Squats. I had knee surgery few years ago and very nervous about squating super heavy weights three times a week. 1.5 times a week should be plenty for my situation. Surgeion and physical therapist told me to be very careful with Squats.

    I'm considering doing DB lunges, jump squats, or wall squats in place of A or B squat. Any other ideas or feedback are welcomed. If my gains are a bit slower that's ok, my emphasis is on staying completely healthy and injury free. I want steady slow gains without setbacks.
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    Originally Posted by cody333 View Post
    haha. genius
    Is that you in the avatar? You're lucky that you weren't there. The guy would've given you a lesson on how to squat after finishing his tricep cable extensions!

    Actually I have an appointment with an orthopedist at the end of the month. I'll ask him.
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