tried training like phil, tried training like yates, now i train like branch and the results are awesome, i think a lot of people think he is using bad form because he is moving fast and its hard to see what his bio-mechanical movements are. I find watching branch very interesting, studying and working out what he is doing with each movement, not a big fan of his physique though
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I agree Branch has poor technique on 50-60% of his back training but there could be an enormous number of factors for this of which you, I and every one bar Branch, JOJ and Brian Dobson know of. I agree if perfect form can be used it should be, why wouldn't you it's the most effective method. However branch may have shoulder issues meaning the weight he can start a pull down movement with, is so compromised that the violent swinging start will stimulate his lats more that if he did it with optimal form. In that instance the compromise in form yield greater benefit all be it with greater risk of injury.
Maybe be feels that intensity of training this way lets him work and push harder than if he did everything with perfect form. Do I know if that's true? Nope because I'm not Branch.
I'm sure you are knowledgeable as well as educated and I agree with the points you made in general. But your posts make you appear very arrogant and insulting other members on their opinions is completely unnecessary.
If you really are that bothered by his form and think that information you posses could genuinely help Branch bring up his back, then send him an email.To embed pictures: [img]url of the picture[/img]
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Branch is mostly a ego-lifter, i'm whilling to bet he's stubborn as sh*t about his principles, he always trained that way and he'll continue, regardless of how much more tears in his body he produces.
If he wasn't whilling to hear Dorian, he won't listen to anybody at this point but yes, i'm pretty sure he could make alot more improvements to his back with some tweaks here and there.
I don't need to defend my stance, one with a brain just needs to watch his deadlifts...
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I use more of a Lee priest type training nice, slow, and controlled throughout the whole movement, But sometimes it is fun to just rep something out with less strict form and just go to complete failure.
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I'll never really understand the hate on how pro's train. Regardless if its a training style you approve of, it obviously works for them. You don't get to be a pro without knowing how to train & grow, sorry, its just not possible.
What is everyone trying to say? If he trained like Lee Priest or Jay Cutler he would look like what? WOuld he be 350lbs shredded or something? How much bigger or more developed do you think he could become? lol
Branch's training style is real world proof that it is all about the mind-muscle connection. He is obviously stimulating the desired muscles with his wacky technique and getting the results. To the guys who say its all the cell-tech, well the cell-tech isnt going to help anything unless the stimulation & the breakdown from training has occured that triggers a response to grow. If his technique and form sucked to the point of not stimulating the target muscles, he wouldnt have ever grown like that. Case in point is the legions of regions in the local gyms on 1.5g of cell tech and are still 200lbs.
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02-20-2012, 03:27 PM #78
Thing is Branch contradicts himself. Remember when he tore his left tri leading up to the 2008 Olympia and had to have surgery? Well in the training videos leading up to the 2009 Arnold he said he had to alter his training and not go so crazy and he felt that his tricep looked even better then before the tear....yet he went back to the crazy training anyways...
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I may pick at a guys form if its bad but if he looks the part i kind of have to say "to be fair though, he looks awsome".
Branch is not a normal man, hes an extremely hard worker and a genetic freak. Thats why i can be entertained by his vids and not have sit on my high horse laughing at his form.
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**** aesthetics....this is where its at...**** yeaaaVision is purpose, and when your purpose is clear so are your life choices. Vision creates faith and faith creates willpower. With faith there is no anxiety, no doubt - just absolute confidence. R.I.P ZYZZ - YOU WILL BE MISSED BRAH March 24 1989 - August 6 2011
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Branch does what works for him and im sure over his long career he has made changes and had a strong realization of what exercises and ROM work for him and what he is doing. Most hate his form but so what bro!
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