My Cycle - Sus, DBol, Enth, ECA, Winnie, Equ - Suggestions??

[aah00n]

Here is my cycle. Aiming to lean out while still making good muscles gains. I have a good clean diet in place as well. I know there will be a bit of water retention but I will deal with it.

Couple of questions:

1. Is the Boldenone worthwhile?
2. Also including an ECA stack in wk1-4 and wk8-12. What dosage should I look at ED??

Week 1-4
Dbol at 40mg ED
Sustanon at 250mg / week
Test E at 250mg / week
Arimidex at 25mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 5
Sustanon at 250mg / week
Test E at 250mg / week
Arimidex 25mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 6-10
Sustanon at 500mg /week
Winstrol at 50mg ED
Nolva at 20mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 11
Nolva at 20mg ED

Week 12
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 1)300mg 2)100mg 3)100mg 4)100mg 5)100mg 6)100mg 7)100mg

Week 13
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 1)100mg 2)100mg 3)100mg 4)100mg 5)50mg 6)50mg 7)50mg

Week 14
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid - 1)50mg 2)50mg 3)50mg 4)50mg 5)50mg 6)50mg 7)50mg

[PG]

Having Sustanon and Test Enanthate in the same cycle is pointless bro. You should just increase the Sustanon to 500mg a week. Inject every 3.5 days (mon/thurs)

Boldenone (Equipoise) should be run for 14+ weeks. 400mg a week is a moderate dose, don't know how much results you are going to see from it.

Adex is 0.25mg everyday not 25mg lol

And you will already be on quite a bit of stuff bro, i don't think throwing in an ECA stack will help anything. I would save the ECA stack for when you are off AAS.

[Moose46]

Originally Posted by aah00n

Here is my cycle. Aiming to lean out while still making good muscles gains. I have a good clean diet in place as well. I know there will be a bit of water retention but I will deal with it.

Couple of questions:

1. Is the Boldenone worthwhile?
2. Also including an ECA stack in wk1-4 and wk8-12. What dosage should I look at ED??

Week 1-4
Dbol at 40mg ED
Sustanon at 250mg / week
Test E at 250mg / week
Arimidex at 25mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 5
Sustanon at 250mg / week
Test E at 250mg / week
Arimidex 25mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 6-10
Sustanon at 500mg /week
Winstrol at 50mg ED
Nolva at 20mg ED
Boldenone at 400mg / week

Week 11
Nolva at 20mg ED

Week 12
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 1)300mg 2)100mg 3)100mg 4)100mg 5)100mg 6)100mg 7)100mg

Week 13
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 1)100mg 2)100mg 3)100mg 4)100mg 5)50mg 6)50mg 7)50mg

Week 14
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid - 1)50mg 2)50mg 3)50mg 4)50mg 5)50mg 6)50mg 7)50mg

couple of thing i must comment on. First i think you mean .25mg of Armidex ED. Also dont stop the Arimidex at week 8 and just run it through week 10. Another thing I noticed was that you included test e for only 5 weeks, this to me really doesnt serve a purpose and I think you should pick test e or sust to run the cycle @ 500mg/wk throughout the cycle. Also, on a final note you should wait 2 weeks until after your last injection to being pct. So PCT should start at week 13.

[PG]

Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/25

Clomid is going to make you an emotional bitch lol. So 300mg for that first day is overkill. If you want the first day use 150mg and then finish the week at 100mg. Clomid is good for the initial bounce back. But should be followed by nolvadex

[aah00n]

Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe

Having Sustanon and Test Enanthate in the same cycle is pointless bro. You should just increase the Sustanon to 500mg a week. Inject every 3.5 days (mon/thurs)

when you say pointless do you mean it won't work as well as just sus or just test e?

point taken on the boldenone and eca...

[PG]

Originally Posted by aah00n

when you say pointless do you mean it won't work as well as just sus or just test e?

point taken on the boldenone and eca...

Test E isn't even fully active till week 4-5. thats one thing. Other thing is that its a long ester. Which Sustanon already has (testosterone dec.). AND Sustanon is 4 ester of test. Im sure you have enough test from sustanon alone. lol.

Just make sure to run it at 500mg. and inject every 3.5 days like i said You'll be good

2 shots of Sustanon Contain:
testosterone propionate, 60 mg
testosterone phenylpropionate, 120 mg
testosterone isocaproate, 120mg
testosterone decanoate, 200 mg

[tarrask]

Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe

Test E isn't even fully active till week 4-5. thats one thing. Other thing is that its a long ester. Which Sustanon already has (testosterone dec.). AND Sustanon is 4 ester of test. Im sure you have enough test from sustanon alone. lol.

Just make sure to run it at 500mg. and inject every 3.5 days like i said You'll be good

2 shots of Sustanon Contain:
testosterone propionate, 60 mg
testosterone phenylpropionate, 120 mg
testosterone isocaproate, 120mg
testosterone decanoate, 200 mg

Why not every 3 days PhillipsGabe?

like this
Day 1: 250mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 2: 226.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 3: 205.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 4: 435.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 5: 394.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 6: 357.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 7: 573.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 8: 519.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 9: 470.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 10: 676.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 11: 612.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 12: 554.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 13: 752.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 14: 681.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 15: 617.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 16: 809mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 17: 732.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 18: 663.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
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[PG]

Originally Posted by tarrask

Why not every 3 days PhillipsGabe?

like this
Day 1: 250mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 2: 226.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 3: 205.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 4: 435.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 5: 394.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 6: 357.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 7: 573.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 8: 519.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 9: 470.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 10: 676.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 11: 612.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 12: 554.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 13: 752.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 14: 681.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 15: 617.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 16: 809mg T, 0mg E/D/T - 250 - sust
Day 17: 732.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 18: 663.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
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very true, but its easier to dose if the days stay the same. Always monday thursday

every three days means it will constantly change. making it harder to remeber when to inject.

I agree with you though repd

[kingpete]

What is the point of showing us more information from your 'PCT Calculator' (at least it's not a graph this time).

You seem to want to make a comparison between 3 and 3.5 day injections, but the info you provided means nothing.

What exactly is your point.

[kingpete]

PG, you got in before me. You must be in a good mood today with all the rep sharing

How different would the figures be if he posted it with 3.5 day injections. I still don't see the point.
It's obvious that 3 days is better than 3.5, and that EOD is better than 3 (for the short esters).

Without seeing comparison charts we can't tell if the difference in blood levels is considerate enough to shange the injection plan.

My friend is a Doc, maybe he can supply me with a slow release drip for every hour shots.. J/K

do you have more info tarrask, I'm curious as to how big the difference would be.

[aah00n]

LMAO... hammered by KP...

[aah00n]

I'm going to go with this instead. I did consider running the 250mg Test E on top of the 500mg of Sus (wk1-6) but was advised it wouldn't be worth it. Also lengthened the Adex through to week 10.

Week 1-4
Dbol at 40mg ED
Sustanon at 500mg / week
Arimidex at 0.25mg ED

Week 5
Sustanon at 500mg / week
Arimidex 0.25mg ED

Week 6
Sustanon at 500mg /week
Winstrol at 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.25mg ED

Week 7-8
Sustanon at 500mg /week
Winstrol at 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.25mg ED

Week 9-10
Sustanon at 500mg /week
Winstrol at 50mg ED
Arimidex 0.25mg ED

Week 11-12
Nil

Week 13
Nolva at 40mg ED
Clomid at 100mg ED

Week 14
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 50mg ED

Week 15
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 50mg ED

Week 16
Nolva at 20mg ED
Clomid at 25mg ED

Week 17
Nolva at 20mg ED

[tarrask]

Originally Posted by kingpete

PG, you got in before me. You must be in a good mood today with all the rep sharing

How different would the figures be if he posted it with 3.5 day injections. I still don't see the point.
It's obvious that 3 days is better than 3.5, and that EOD is better than 3 (for the short esters).

Without seeing comparison charts we can't tell if the difference in blood levels is considerate enough to shange the injection plan.

My friend is a Doc, maybe he can supply me with a slow release drip for every hour shots.. J/K

do you have more info tarrask, I'm curious as to how big the difference would be.

dunno exactly the diference between 3,5 and 3 days bro
but the medium of popionate HL is 2 days...

imo he should inject sust every 3 days..since every 2 days is to much for Decanoate Testosterone.

[Physco_Ozz]

Ive been weight training 4 a yr and have taken shape (a lil bit),,ive been wanting 2 take steriods but dont know which 1 2 take,,i want 2 b big and powerful,,cud any1 plz guide me in da right direction,,,i wll much appreciate it

[ryanthestark]

KISS, keep it simple stupid

Even reading your cycle is complicated, let alone trying to do it