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Old 08-14-2007, 09:04 PM   #1
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First Injection...few questions

Ight fellas i bought all my stuff for my 1st cycle, im kinda pumped to ****in kill the weights but a lil nervous on the injection.

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5 weeks- Anavar 50mg ed
6 weeks- every 2 days 100mg Test prop
nolvadex- 40/40/20/20 - 4 weeks ed

1. Do i need to taper off the test while going into my last week, or just stop it on the last day and immediately stop , start PCT after 3 days from last injection?

2. Im going to be doing the injections for myself, so if i were to inject in my quads, would my quads be sore that day or good to go? i wondering wats the least painful places to inject and can I use that place every 2 days?

3. by the way just for reference u guys like splitting up ur orals or take it all in the morning?
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:19 PM   #2
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You should run the test longer, and also use a longer ester like cyp or e. Newbs shouldn't be pinning that many times a week. Virgin muscles take a little while to break in. You probably won't be too sore right after, but the DAY after it'll be somewhat like DOMS or a really bad Charlie Horse.

Remember, it's all about the nerves when you're pinning. Don't get stoned like me and pin because you'll get the jitters lol. But seriously, it's so fricken easy. A 20g needle, considered a cannon by some, really doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt any more than a pinch or stretching your muscles. Just lifting weights is more tough than a sissy little pin prick, so just make sure to keep everything sterile and get it over with.

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Use the glutes man. and yes, a longer acting test will do better too, because poking every two days sucks. bad. and yes, it will be sore the next day.
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6 weeks. What are you expecting from this cycle? You need to run the test twice as long and higher dose for best results bro IMO.
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2. Im going to be doing the injections for myself, so if i were to inject in my quads, would my quads be sore that day or good to go? i wondering wats the least painful places to inject and can I use that place every 2 days?
Never inject the same spot every 2 days thats asking for trouble, if you're shooting eod you need atleast 4 places to rotate to give minimum a week between hitting the same place!

i'd try quads, glutes and maybe delts

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It's not helping you a lot right now but you should've gone with Test E, only have to pin every 5 days. And you should be a little higher dosed and longer cycle, even conservative cycles are like 300 mg for 10-12 weeks.
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You should run the test longer, and also use a longer ester like cyp or e. Newbs shouldn't be pinning that many times a week. Virgin muscles take a little while to break in. You probably won't be too sore right after, but the DAY after it'll be somewhat like DOMS or a really bad Charlie Horse.

Remember, it's all about the nerves when you're pinning. Don't get stoned like me and pin because you'll get the jitters lol. But seriously, it's so fricken easy. A 20g needle, considered a cannon by some, really doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt any more than a pinch or stretching your muscles. Just lifting weights is more tough than a sissy little pin prick, so just make sure to keep everything sterile and get it over with.

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I use 20g 1" for the quads
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:03 AM   #8
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nah dont worry about what test im doin, we had a long long discussion of what test to use lol in a previous thread.

but what about the nolvadex i been reading the 40/40/20/20 isnt good as 20mg for 6 weeks?

also havent bought teh needles yet but does ususally the whole needle go in or just a part of it?

and like you can inject in any part of the glute or quad, not a particular spot?

do i need to taper off the test for the last week?

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and like you can inject in any part of the glute or quad, not a particular spot?
No you cannot. Go to spotinjections.com

Quad: upper lateral site

Glute: Upper lateral site
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:46 PM   #10
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glute all the way, just alternate sides...if your right handed the left side may get a little tricky, but just do it...don't think about it and before you know it its done...keep things clean and you will be fine.
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I would have to disagree with the glute shots if you have any back width at all.
I cannot effectively pin my glutes without shaking terribly

Also, with prop, you can easily use down to a 25g pin, although for speed sake, use a 23g, prop is thin enough to go easy. 20g does not really hurt, but if used enough, it is big enough to cause excess scar tissue

6 weeks is not a cycle, 10-12 is

with prop, at 1cc EOD, you can rotate quad, quad, delt, delt and only hit each one every 8 days which is easy
I would shoot quads AFTER lifting a some people get knots from prop, even after many easy shots in a row, all of a sudden one will get you

I actually prefer to add the ventrogluteal site, much easier to hit
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i think a bro posted a couple vids of ventrogluteal injects a couple weeks back, very informative.
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poor guy...shootin prop the first time around..if its real that gonna hurt!
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yo thanks for all the help fellas, anyone got any opinions on the PCT though?

also you guys take your test at a particular time or does it not matter?
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I use 20g 1" for the quads
For ****s and giggles, I tried that too. It's really not so bad, but after switching back to 23g it feels a lot more comfy. I can't imagine the luxury of using 25g! I figure I don't need to go that small though because delts are the smallest muscle I inject oils into, and for peptides I'll be using BD shorts so yeah. The jump isn't TOO bad, but for first timers I'd go with something smaller if possible
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Do you use 1" or 1.5" for delts brown?
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