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07-24-2007, 09:53 PM
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Toney Freeman's Olympia Prep Interview
http://webcast.bodybuilding.com/fits...4interview.htm
Awesome interview, really good guy and he keeps it real. A good attitude and lots of commendation towards the other competitors. He's a tall guy that can really talk the talk and walk the walk. I hate how he's been mentioned along with Sean Allen. There's no comparison, as far as what I think.
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07-25-2007, 07:58 PM
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I have 2 agree with ya..awesome interview! cool guy,down 2 earth and makes alot of sence! I was already excited about the "O" but listening and watching Toney really put me over the top..cant w8..its ON this year!
Id sell my kidney 4 a front row seat,but I might need em sumday so guess Ill have 2 settle 4 a front row seat infront of my pc..LOL
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07-25-2007, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DevlishlyDevine
I have 2 agree with ya..awesome interview! cool guy,down 2 earth and makes alot of sence! I was already excited about the "O" but listening and watching Toney really put me over the top..cant w8..its ON this year!
Id sell my kidney 4 a front row seat,but I might need em sumday so guess Ill have 2 settle 4 a front row seat infront of my pc..LOL
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lol
Thanks for your reply.
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07-26-2007, 12:59 AM
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He has very good form. And Jesus behemoth did he look huge in that video.
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07-26-2007, 12:14 PM
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really enjoyed that interview,He is a cool guy!Hope He really turns up at the show in the shape he promises at the video....
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07-26-2007, 12:38 PM
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is there anyway i can download the interview, my internet says its performed an illegal operation and the video always messes up
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07-26-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cgcgraded
is there anyway i can download the interview, my internet says its performed an illegal operation and the video always messes up
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if you have firefox download a plug- in named Unplug and you can download the interview but you need media player classic.
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07-26-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by donjuandemarko
if you have firefox download a plug- in named Unplug and you can download the interview but you need media player classic.
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thanks alot man
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Instead of walking into the gym and saying "O my God, I wonder what so and so does in his training? I wonder what Victor Martinez does? I wonder what Branch Warren does? I wonder what Phil Heath does?" Man, f*ck that, you have to go in there and just punish yourself, pick up some f*cking weight and just move it.
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07-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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yea, toney freeman is my new favorite bodybuilder....he is a great orator and explains things exactly how he sees it, no bs....plus he looks badass...anyone see that recent flex or w/e magazine cover(don't remember which magazine), he looked insane...
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07-26-2007, 04:54 PM
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i just came to speak bout toney. Just watched all 3 vids and the whole thing is great. He talks like he means it and makes sense and is honest. I like his attitude about the sport of bodybuilding - he said ronnie's great and all that but that if they all looked like that, NO ONE would ever wanna watch bodybuilding (people outside bodybuilding that is) He says how someone like him whos big, but is still not freakish still looks ok when he's chillin in normal clothes and that people dont think 'freaky bodybuilder' like they would coleman...
he wants to win and then be a good ambassidor for the sport and bring it into the '5 million dollor' contracts etc... I for one would be happy to see him win..
Although, Cutler ftw!
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07-26-2007, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy
He has very good form. And Jesus behemoth did he look huge in that video.
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True.
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07-26-2007, 09:15 PM
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Awesome guy...sort of the opposite of ..........Branch Warren....
I like how the guy just lowered the weight when he noticed it worked better for him on arm development...no need to go ego nuts and keep lifting large weights if it didnt work for him.
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07-26-2007, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodysteele
Awesome guy...sort of the opposite of ..........Branch Warren....
I like how the guy just lowered the weight when he noticed it worked better for him on arm development...no need to go ego nuts and keep lifting large weights if it didnt work for him.
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You were doing good until you got to mentioning Branch Warren. Why don't you stay out of my thread if you're going to start talking about "Oh, he's short and stumpy but I'm a tall guy who thinks I'm big because I'm practically covered in layers of fatty tissue." Did I really hurt your feelings that much?
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07-27-2007, 12:58 AM
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Good stuff there.
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07-27-2007, 01:02 AM
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Based on that workout video and interview alone, Toney is EXACTLY what bodybuilding needs. He would be a perfect Mr Olympia. He is a tall guy with muscle that was earned the hard way, throughout the years. He said he put on 5-10lbs a year.
Not some HGH monster that goes from 200lbs - 280lbs of muscle in a year or two. That isn't what the sport needs.
He also was lifting extremely light weight for both bi's and tri's and he got an incredible pump, he preached form, and as a personal trainer myself, I enjoyed watching Toney correct his son on hand and arm placements, talking about flexing at the top and resist at the bottom. I am also gonna sooo steal his triceps workouts that he used on the cables, hitting his triceps from all angles. He basically did kickbacks into overhead extensions into pushdowns. Very good stuff.
Also got me 10X more excited for the O now. He gave honest answers and didn't hold back or avoid any questions, not many people do that.
On top of Toney being my height at 6'2 and him talking about his first goal was to be 200lbs shredded, that is something to set your goals for as someone like myself who enjoys the sport and loves working out, and building towards a goal.
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07-27-2007, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeFlexYourself
Based on that workout video and interview alone, Toney is EXACTLY what bodybuilding needs. He would be a perfect Mr Olympia. He is a tall guy with muscle that was earned the hard way, throughout the years. He said he put on 5-10lbs a year.
Not some HGH monster that goes from 200lbs - 280lbs of muscle in a year or two. That isn't what the sport needs.
He also was lifting extremely light weight for both bi's and tri's and he got an incredible pump, he preached form, and as a personal trainer myself, I enjoyed watching Toney correct his son on hand and arm placements, talking about flexing at the top and resist at the bottom. I am also gonna sooo steal his triceps workouts that he used on the cables, hitting his triceps from all angles. He basically did kickbacks into overhead extensions into pushdowns. Very good stuff.
Also got me 10X more excited for the O now. He gave honest answers and didn't hold back or avoid any questions, not many people do that.
On top of Toney being my height at 6'2 and him talking about his first goal was to be 200lbs shredded, that is something to set your goals for as someone like myself who enjoys the sport and loves working out, and building towards a goal.
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I think Toney is an awesome man and a great bodybuilder, he's really inspiring to watch and he does great things with his body.
BUT. It's not only for his triceps and biceps that he uses such light weight, he does lateral shoulder raises with 20lbs dumbells for example. This is something that ONLY someone on steroids could get away with, a natural bodybuilder wouldn't be able to build much muscle that way.
Now, I'm not saying that we should denie the FACT that every top IFBB pro does steroids, since that's what it takes to advance that high in this sport. The thing is, people are already complaining about how light Jay lifts (since people compare him to Ronnie), now imagine what would happen if we got a Mr. O lifting the same dumbells as his 17years old son does, it would just add more to the whole "that dude is on steroids" thingy.
edit: Not taking away anything from Toney, he seems to be an awesome father and a great guy in general, I loved the videos with him.
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07-27-2007, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
BUT. It's not only for his triceps and biceps that he uses such light weight, he does lateral shoulder raises with 20lbs dumbells for example. This is something that ONLY someone on steroids could get away with, a natural bodybuilder wouldn't be able to build much muscle that way.
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I'm going to disagree with you. I think using proper form MOST of the time(not always) will yield better results. I could do laterals with 25 pounds but that never got me anywhere near the growth of doing them with what I do now. I use 10 pounds on them and get a good contraction and it flushes my delts with blood. My delts are now growing a lot faster. Many times in the gym, at least in the ones I've been to, the "strongest" guys are using crap form and have crap gains to show for it. Before anybody points out my fatness, I will openly admit that my reason for that is obviously a crap diet...but not from horrible training.
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07-27-2007, 04:19 PM
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I'm going to disagree with you. I think using proper form MOST of the time(not always) will yield better results. I could do laterals with 25 pounds but that never got me anywhere near the growth of doing them with what I do now. I use 10 pounds on them and get a good contraction and it flushes my delts with blood. My delts are now growing a lot faster. Many times in the gym, at least in the ones I've been to, the "strongest" guys are using crap form and have crap gains to show for it. Before anybody points out my fatness, I will openly admit that my reason for that is obviously a crap diet...but not from horrible training. 
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Yea but when you look like you do, not trying to slight you you basically have absolutely no credibility when talking about training. Training advice is not absolute you cannot prove someones methods is not optimal for them. I don't understand why people get so obsessed with this mythical perfect form, Do things that suite you as long as you are not hurting yourself in the process, many people have flourished using unorthodox styles dont try to make things so black and white.
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07-27-2007, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by coldfusion71
Yea but when you look like you do, not trying to slight you you basically have absolutely no credibility when talking about training. Training advice is not absolute you cannot prove someones methods is not optimal for them. I don't understand why people get so obsessed with this mythical perfect form, Do things that suite you as long as you are not hurting yourself in the process, many people have flourished using unorthodox styles dont try to make things so black and white.
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hm...well that is true but I believe that great form and unorthodox form are sometimes the same. The thing is to make the muscle work instead of only using momentum and ancilary muscle groups. Most people think Jay's and Ronnie's form is bad but it's not. They generally keep continuos tension and you always see the muscle work. In fact the only thing I think Jay has "bad" form on is DB curls. That's neither here nor there though, and you do make a valid argument.
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07-27-2007, 11:13 PM
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Yea but when you look like you do, not trying to slight you you basically have absolutely no credibility when talking about training. Training advice is not absolute you cannot prove someones methods is not optimal for them. I don't understand why people get so obsessed with this mythical perfect form, Do things that suite you as long as you are not hurting yourself in the process, many people have flourished using unorthodox styles dont try to make things so black and white.
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his diet sucked he admitted it, it has nothing to do with training. You can train good all you want but it means chit if your diet is not in order
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07-28-2007, 02:15 AM
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great interview and top physique....and top bloke too boot!
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07-28-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
I think Toney is an awesome man and a great bodybuilder, he's really inspiring to watch and he does great things with his body.
BUT. It's not only for his triceps and biceps that he uses such light weight, he does lateral shoulder raises with 20lbs dumbells for example. This is something that ONLY someone on steroids could get away with, a natural bodybuilder wouldn't be able to build much muscle that way.
Now, I'm not saying that we should denie the FACT that every top IFBB pro does steroids, since that's what it takes to advance that high in this sport. The thing is, people are already complaining about how light Jay lifts (since people compare him to Ronnie), now imagine what would happen if we got a Mr. O lifting the same dumbells as his 17years old son does, it would just add more to the whole "that dude is on steroids" thingy.
edit: Not taking away anything from Toney, he seems to be an awesome father and a great guy in general, I loved the videos with him.
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Well I totally disagree with you. #1 Toney has great genetics. #2 anyone who has done their homework knows that BB is not abot lifting weights, but about sculpting your muscles with good form, intensity and good pumps, is the blood that makes the muscle grow if not a guy as BIG as Toney would have to Curl 500 pds with those arms.
Is not about the weight and is NOT about steroids, drugs are not magic. Stop reading the bull**** you see on the magazines and from some ppl online!
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07-28-2007, 04:07 PM
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his diet sucked he admitted it, it has nothing to do with training. You can train good all you want but it means chit if your diet is not in order
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For someones advice to seem meaninful they have to look the part. Just the way it is. If a guy with no legs tried giving you advice on how to ride a bike you'd be like ok there guy with no legs
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07-28-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy
For someones advice to seem meaninful they have to look the part. Just the way it is. If a guy with no legs tried giving you advice on how to ride a bike you'd be like ok there guy with no legs 
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Yes, unfortunately that's how it is. Much how you'd ask a guy with no legs for directions. Cus if anyone knows the fastest/easiest way to get somewhere, it's him!
(got that from comedian Dave Attel)
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