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    Originally Posted by ASIAN NIGHTMARE View Post
    I think everyone dreams of being WWE/World Champion and headlining Wrestlemania. I'd be happy with a long midcard run, like Mark Henry, who's had a job for the last 14 years or Matt Hardy before he left.
    Or like Edge who's not always in the title picture but does get put up to Main Event status

    I'd start my hype just after Wrestlemania, with vignettes like they did for Del Rio. I'd debut just before Backlash, attacking a major face like Edge or Orton
    Would you rather face Edge or Orton?

    Orton may be more popular but Edge seems like he's better at building others.
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    Originally Posted by Brad_Pitt View Post
    Would you rather face Edge or Orton?

    Orton may be more popular but Edge seems like he's better at building others.
    probably Edge because we know each other
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    Originally Posted by ASIAN NIGHTMARE View Post
    blood capsules would just look too fake

    If the ring is too soft there's a risk of spraining/breaking an ankle or knee.
    How about low ceilings? I've been to shows where the wrestlers could hardly jump off the top rope.
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    Originally Posted by ASIAN NIGHTMARE View Post
    probably does but I think if WWE/TNA sees something they like, age is irrelevant
    yep, What age was Batista when he started in the WWE. Had to be around your age.

    I agree with some people who suggested going for a shaved/buzzed haircut. Obviously like you suggested in a hair v. hair, or hair v. mask match. (culmination of a feud)

    I get the impression Vince isn't big on guys in WWE having long hair (with some exceptions.) May have been a rumour but i remember reading he pushed test and christian to cut there hair. I think it would make you look like even more of a bad ass.

    I understand it might be a hard decision for someone who's had long hair for an years and years. maybe someone with legit photoshop skills could give you some idea of what you might look like with shorter hair
    What about facial hair? seems to be common for heels, at least traditionally.
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    How about low ceilings? I've been to shows where the wrestlers could hardly jump off the top rope.
    so have I. Luckily I'm not much of a high flyer lol
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    yep, What age was Batista when he started in the WWE. Had to be around your age.

    I agree with some people who suggested going for a shaved/buzzed haircut. Obviously like you suggested in a hair v. hair, or hair v. mask match. (culmination of a feud)

    I get the impression Vince isn't big on guys in WWE having long hair (with some exceptions.) May have been a rumour but i remember reading he pushed test and christian to cut there hair. I think it would make you look like even more of a bad ass.

    I understand it might be a hard decision for someone who's had long hair for an years and years. maybe someone with legit photoshop skills could give you some idea of what you might look like with shorter hair
    What about facial hair? seems to be common for heels, at least traditionally.
    I have trouble growing facial hair. I'm open to the shaved head idea. Somewhere down the road I'd do the hair vs hair match for the right money and the right feud. Plus I'd donate my hair to making wigs for kids with Cancer
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    How about low ceilings? I've been to shows where the wrestlers could hardly jump off the top rope.
    LOL.
    I remember the old TBS studios that the NWA/WCW used to tape shows from. Road Warrior Hawk was ALWAYS bumping his head on the lights before coming off the top with his clothesline. Haha.
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    Originally Posted by Gwrestler316 View Post
    LOL.
    I remember the old TBS studios that the NWA/WCW used to tape shows from. Road Warrior Hawk was ALWAYS bumping his head on the lights before coming off the top with his clothesline. Haha.
    THIS is pretty bad with the low ceilings.

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    Great thread. Thanks for answering our questions.

    What's the longest match you worked?
    Favorite all time tag team?
    New Japan or All Japan?
    WWF or NWA/WCW?
    Bret or Flair?
    Hardest move to take?
    Worst blladejob you've seen in person?

    Thanks again!
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    Originally Posted by Highstick12 View Post
    Great thread. Thanks for answering our questions.

    What's the longest match you worked?
    Favorite all time tag team?
    New Japan or All Japan?
    WWF or NWA/WCW?
    Bret or Flair?
    Hardest move to take?
    Worst blladejob you've seen in person?

    Thanks again!
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    Have you ever had to potato someone because they wouldn't work?
    "Every man's heart one day beats its final beat. His lungs breathe their final breath. And if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the body of others and makes them bleed deeper in something that's larger than life, then his essence, his spirit, will be immortalized by the storytellers -- by the loyalty, by the memory of those who honor him, and make the running the man did live forever"
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    Originally Posted by TheDukeUSMC View Post
    Have you ever had to potato someone because they wouldn't work?
    Once, because the guy was untrained, horribly out of shape and couldn't/wouldn't do anything.

    A few times cause someone had a poor attitude in the locker room or disrepectful toward a promoter
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    Originally Posted by ASIAN NIGHTMARE View Post
    Once, because the guy was untrained, horribly out of shape and couldn't/wouldn't do anything.

    A few times cause someone had a poor attitude in the locker room or disrespectful toward a promoter
    Can you make money on the indies or is it just survival?
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    Originally Posted by TheDukeUSMC View Post
    Can you make money on the indies or is it just survival?
    I'm not rolling in dough but between that and my Personal Training business, I've made enough to live on.

    I make more on tours than wrestling just on weekends
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    I mean you would have thought they would have practised a bit prior to the match-would somebody not have thought to start with that a 6 foot 8 guy powerbombing a 5 foot 10 guy is not going to work in this cage? The woudn't Pillman or somebody in the match said this is not going to work?

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    THIS is pretty bad with the low ceilings.

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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    I mean you would have thought they would have practised a bit prior to the match-would somebody not have thought to start with that a 6 foot 8 guy powerbombing a 5 foot 10 guy is not going to work in this cage? The woudn't Pillman or somebody in the match said this is not going to work?
    you really think this guy could figure out it wouldn't work?

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    Originally Posted by Mancacdude View Post
    you really think this guy could figure out it wouldn't work?

    Hey, Sid has a PhD is idiology. He told me so himself. Idiology is not what you think either. It's the study of the history and culture of this place called The Kingdom of ID. If he knows all about some ancient culture he can't be dumb.
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    Wasn't that promo scripted for him by Russo? I know Sid is not the smartest guy, but I don't think he is that dumb. If you look he kind of says it looking like he does not want to & like he knows it sounds dumb.
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    Originally Posted by Mrs Grudge View Post
    Do you know how much some of the dudes in NJPW and AJPW make?
    Not a clue but I've heard Bob "The Beast" Sapp turned down WWE because he'd make more between working for NJPW, and fighting K-1 and MMA in Japan. I'd imagine they're well taken care of
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    When a new guy comes into wrestling and he brings unique moves with him (like his finisher is something totally new to wrestling)- do all the guys in the company have to go and learn how to take the move, or is it just the guys who will be facing him that night go out and practice for a bit?



    In a company like the WWE, the wrestlers work 1 day a week, and so do they go home for the other 6 days? Ive always had the illusion that wrestlers are on the road 365 and get to see home once a month. Which doesnt make sense. It seems to me that they just take a flight home, hang out for 4 days, and fly back. Or is they actually are on the road. do they all take buses and stay in the same hotel like a pro sports team? or is it 'every man for himself' and they all just show up at the place on time?
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    Originally Posted by 21Classic View Post
    When a new guy comes into wrestling and he brings unique moves with him (like his finisher is something totally new to wrestling)- do all the guys in the company have to go and learn how to take the move, or is it just the guys who will be facing him that night go out and practice for a bit?
    Really, there's only 3 ways you can fall, on your back, face or what we call a flip bump, like a hiptoss, backdrop, bodyslam etc so most moves are going to be 1 of the 3, so I might go thru it with him once just to make sure I know which bump I'm taking

    In a company like the WWE, the wrestlers work 1 day a week, and so do they go home for the other 6 days? Ive always had the illusion that wrestlers are on the road 365 and get to see home once a month. Which doesnt make sense. It seems to me that they just take a flight home, hang out for 4 days, and fly back. Or is they actually are on the road. do they all take buses and stay in the same hotel like a pro sports team? or is it 'every man for himself' and they all just show up at the place on time?
    Not sure who told you the WWE guys work 1x a week. Most of the guys work 4-5 shows a week
    Sat, Sunday (some Fridays) - House show (untelevised Live event)
    Monday - RAW taping, Smackdown house show sometimes
    Tues - SD taping, RAW house show sometimes
    Wed Thurs, some Fridays off but guys like Cena do alot of public appearances, autograph signings, charity work etc

    Sundays also PPV's

    Depends some guys travel together, some if they live within a few hrs of the event will just drive in. (ie Christian will just drive to Miami for ex from his house in Tampa). Or fly if its more than a few hrs. You're told where to be at a certain time and date and you're expected to be there
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    This thread is a nice read. Long, but nice.

    Do you find yourself more analytical (maybe unintentionally) of wrestling in general now that you are a wrestler? Do you find it harder to just sit back and enjoy like when you first got into it? The internet has created the smart mark, but what does actually becoming a wrestler do to you from a fan/spectator standpoint?
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    Originally Posted by ShangTsung View Post
    This thread is a nice read. Long, but nice.

    Do you find yourself more analytical (maybe unintentionally) of wrestling in general now that you are a wrestler? Do you find it harder to just sit back and enjoy like when you first got into it? The internet has created the smart mark, but what does actually becoming a wrestler do to you from a fan/spectator standpoint?
    I do watch matches more analytically and critically now, yes. I'm not one for watching moves but i watch the psychology, how the 2 workers lay out the story of the match, how they work the crowd and how they play their respective roles.

    I do occasionally have my mark out moments like Steamboat's return against Jericho at Wrestlemania, Y2J's debut, the returns of Cactus Jack in 1997 and 2002, the tribute to Flair on RAW and HBK vs Taker last year.
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    What advice can you give to a 15 year old who wants to get into wrestling and maybe, some day make it to WWE?
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    Originally Posted by chris725 View Post
    What advice can you give to a 15 year old who wants to get into wrestling and maybe, some day make it to WWE?
    At 15, Finish school first. Sounds whatever but you need something to fall back on.
    WWE/TNA only have maybe 100 full time roster spots combined and even if you get in, you need something to fall back on.

    Here's a note I wrote :

    I've had a few people ask my advice on getting into pro wrestling. This is the advice I gave them.

    I've been in the wrestling business for 14 years now. I've wrestled all over Canada and the US. I hope to get a tryout sometime this year with WWE and TNA as well as ROH or Japan.

    Best advice i can give u is First, HIT A GYM!!! (if u havent already). If you have any dreams about making a living in the wrestling biz, u need to look the part, which means being in shape. While you dont need to be some jacked up bodybuilder. I think a wrestler should AT LEAST look like an athlete or at the very least look like someone who can hold his own in a fight.
    WAY too many indy guys now have the look and size of my 12 year old cousin!
    Sorry guys(and you know who you are). You can be the greatest in ring technician but if the average joe fan cant believe that you can "kick ass", no one can take you seriously out there.
    My advice to young wrestling hopefuls. Start weight training in the gym (again, if you havent been already), eating right and if you dont know how, hire a personal trainer or find a friend that does.

    Second, find a reputable Pro Wrestling training school. Kryss Thorn's TWA Powerhouse in St Catharines, ON Ruffy Siverstein's School of Hard Knocks in Newmarket, Squared Circle Wrestling in Toronto or Scott D'Amore's school in Windsor are a good start.
    If u are able to travel, the best school probably would be the Storm Wrestling Academy (Lance Storm) in Calgary. Or even FCW (WWE's Developmental Camp in Tampa, Florida

    The biggest thing in this biz is MARKETABILITY!!! If you are not marketable (ie can draw fans). Promoter have no use for you or at most you'll be some guy at the bottom of the card who MIGHT get booked once in a while.
    Yes, in ring skill is very important but as Steve Corino told me over the weekend, there is a difference between a WRESTLER and a WORKER,
    A wrestler is great in ring but MAY lack what it takes to be marketable ( look, mic skills, charisma, the ability to "get over" or connect with a crowd)
    A worker is one who MAY lack skill in the ring but has IT (ie Hogan, Cena).
    Of course it would be nice to be both (HBK, HHH etc).

    So ,Develop your look/outfit which means getting PROPER RING GEAR (boots , tights etc.). You wouldn't play Hamlet in jean shorts and a wife beater so why wrestle in them. Look professional!! Once again, you can be the greatest in ring technician but if u look like a fat slob in track pants, no legit promoter will give you the time of day. Be prepared to fork out a few bucks to get good quality, professional gear.

    Once youre trained, Start working indy promotions in your area and develop your look, gimmick, ring skills and mic skills. Make yourself as marketable as possible. Then start sending promo packages (tape or DVD of 2 of your best matches, 8X10 Photos, Resume) out to promoters in your area and others.
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    Thanks so much. I planned to stay in school lol. Just so happens I live in Miami, Florida close to the Tampa, Florida training school you told me about. I'm so excited! If you have any tips for gimmicks or anything else, let me know, I want to start thinking this out. As for lifting, I started a few months ago, I've seen some progress but in a few years I'm sure I'll have great results
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    Apologies if my questions have already been answered.

    Have you ever stiffed out an opponent in the ring and if so why? On the flipside, have you ever been stiffed out by an opponent in the ring and how did you handle it?

    Have you ever bladed and if so was it difficult to do?

    At 38, how many more years do you think you have left in you with regards to working in the ring?
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    Originally Posted by chris725 View Post
    Thanks so much. I planned to stay in school lol. Just so happens I live in Miami, Florida close to the Tampa, Florida training school you told me about. I'm so excited! If you have any tips for gimmicks or anything else, let me know, I want to start thinking this out. As for lifting, I started a few months ago, I've seen some progress but in a few years I'm sure I'll have great results
    Gimmicks will come. Build your body/look first, get trained and the gimmick will come naturally. The best gimmick should be a natural extension of yourself, you with the volume turned up.
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