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    Just got back from a tour to NZ. Seriously the rugby culture is so differant to the Australian rugby culture. The rugby club I saw whilst on the bus to the dorms had 8 feilds!
    Played blindside flanker for most of the tour and had a run at openside but I think i'm more suited to the blindside roles rather than the openside with the gamespeed increasing and all the new laws.
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    Weights?

    Will squatting and dead-lifting help my vertical? Should i stick jump squats and sprinting?
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    Originally Posted by Dom_88 View Post
    You play for Varsity or one of the clubs?



    They almost beat the Bulls 2 weeks ago, then they beat the Stormers last week. They're awful, but the potential is clearly there.
    Played for varsity last year, but im back in my home town Wanaka for a year so playing some country rugby here until I go back to Dunedin and varsity next year.
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    Originally Posted by essential222 View Post
    Played for varsity last year, but im back in my home town Wanaka for a year so playing some country rugby here until I go back to Dunedin and varsity next year.
    had a little family reunion earlier in the year and stayed in wanaka, nice place!
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    Originally Posted by samsonhsoj View Post
    Will squatting and dead-lifting help my vertical? Should i stick jump squats and sprinting?
    Everything you mentioned above will help your vertical jump. You need to find a happy medium of all of those mixed.
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    Originally Posted by joakman View Post
    Hey everyone, I wanted to create a thread where people could come to ask questions about basketball pertaining to drills to do, training on the court and off the court as well.

    Basketball is my passion and I plan to continue coaching as my career. I am in the midst of putting together a website as well where all input is welcomed.

    My knowledge comes from playing throughout my whole life, coaching the HS level, and learning from some innovators at the elite levels. Anyway, I hope this serves as a knowledgeable thread where users can get the most out of it.

    Thanks!
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    also i saw on your profile you started recovering from an injury , what injury was it and do you have any advice for me still coming off an injury
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    IN FOR SURE i am entering my senior year this year, have been training my ASSSSSSSSSSS off in the gym every damn day to be an absoltue beast next year, although i had acl surgery 3 months ago just trying to get over that right now.... REPPED FOR LIFE man for the best thread on this website lol
    I am assuming HS? Keep working man, nothing will impress the coach more than a hard worker.

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    also i saw on your profile you started recovering from an injury , what injury was it and do you have any advice for me still coming off an injury
    Broke my ankle and did it numerous times. My advice would be to never let it hold you back and to use it as motivation. Do everything you can without risking injury to make yourself better. Overall advice would be to impress your coach at every chance you can. Be the 1st in all the drills, be a leader to underclassmen, beat the drills (don't do them to get by), come early and leave late. I couldn't stress enough how much better of a team we became when the seniors stepped up vocally and took initiative as leaders.
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    Originally Posted by joakman View Post
    I am assuming HS? Keep working man, nothing will impress the coach more than a hard worker.



    Broke my ankle and did it numerous times. My advice would be to never let it hold you back and to use it as motivation. Do everything you can without risking injury to make yourself better. Overall advice would be to impress your coach at every chance you can. Be the 1st in all the drills, be a leader to underclassmen, beat the drills (don't do them to get by), come early and leave late. I couldn't stress enough how much better of a team we became when the seniors stepped up vocally and took initiative as leaders.
    def will do, man first tournament starts up again inlate june for me cant wait, im going beast mode this year! i just want to take over and make everyone in mmy area remeber my name. i appreciate your advice and will def try to be a leader this year. reppped for life man, lovin the thread
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    def will do, man first tournament starts up again inlate june for me cant wait, im going beast mode this year! i just want to take over and make everyone in mmy area remeber my name. i appreciate your advice and will def try to be a leader this year. reppped for life man, lovin the thread
    No problem. Let me know how it goes, if you have any questions just ask away.
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    Originally Posted by joakman View Post
    No problem. Let me know how it goes, if you have any questions just ask away.
    alright def will do , YOU DA M AN!!!! lol
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    W Force Won 2 out of 8 lol
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    Originally Posted by brockles View Post
    W Force Won 2 out of 8 lol
    Yeah they outplayed the highlanders hard,

    Our team went down 16-10 to the home side as well at the curtain raiser, we were 16-0 down 50minutes in when we finally decided to start playing rugby,

    Biggest drawback was 2-3 guys way to unfit, 2 looseforwards were walking and lagging behind bigtime which really threw my game,

    Because I had to commit to alot more rucks and couldn't play my normal running game off the first five/halfback. Feel like ive been through a blender today, pretty physical game
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    So this week I'm not going to get a chance to workout at all due to exams, should I at least do some static stretching or dynamic stretching or both 2 or 3 times this week to maintain my flexibility???
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    Originally Posted by Future-Swole View Post
    I need to increase vert for basketball, and I need to keep my endurance so I can't neglect that.

    Have you used the vertical jump bible? Do you recommend it? Do you have a training program of your own that I may use?
    Check out air alert 2. It s a jump program that i think is specifically designed for basektball. My freshman brother did it for just like 4 weeks and added six inches to his vertical
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    I went to this football combine this morning and there were about 20 linebackers that were mostly sophmores and Im a freshman. We tested our vertical and I got the highest out of all the lbers at 30 inches. Then, we ran 40s and I got a 5.1 twice in a row (laser timed). Then one lber got a 4.5 40 and a bunch of guys were getting 4.7 and 4.8s. I was one of the slowest in the 40 but I had the best vertical. I thought they correlate? What areas do I need to improve on?




    Plus, just about every kid used a football/track stance or smting they made up for there 40s and I have the defranco combine DVD and have been practicing the stance for weeks and have gotten pretty good at the technical part of the 40.
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    Originally Posted by dolphinsfan270 View Post
    uhhhh WAKE UP! this isnt backyard football. you arent going to get a full ride to some scholarship if youre under 6 foot for lber. and probably not under 6 foot 3 or 4 if youre a o lineman. so height matters a ton.
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    Hey I was wondering if you could help me put together a speed and vertical training routine?

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    Originally Posted by essential222 View Post
    **** yeah, My team are playing the curtain raiser for the Super 14 game Highlanders vs Force in Queenstown,

    Can't wait, so pumped to kick ass

    is that your clubs ground, looked like an awesum place to play rugby..... i see it isnt although playing in that heat must be hard. i think ive had two games this year in what i would call warm weather and the difference in fitness levels was noticable, duno if id like playing in the warm weather all the time.



    well thats my season finished now and my team got religated what a crap feeling, we where religated ages ago but only mathmaticaly on saturday. personally i though i had a good season, ive been alot fitter and stronger this year got about 10 80min games which is big improvement for me as over the last few years the longest ive been getting is around 70mins and that would be with a break at somepoint and i duno how you other guys feel and if it makes a difference but 80mins in the front row/front five is a shift and i allways feel dead after games. i think doing an actuall full pre-season for the first time in 5years helped alot aswell. now i just need to decide what i wana do with next season, what level i wana play at if i wana get fitter or bigger don't think actual strength is that much of a problem but i'm defo gona enjoy and take a long off season.
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    Originally Posted by dolphinsfan270 View Post
    I went to this football combine this morning and there were about 20 linebackers that were mostly sophmores and Im a freshman. We tested our vertical and I got the highest out of all the lbers at 30 inches. Then, we ran 40s and I got a 5.1 twice in a row (laser timed). Then one lber got a 4.5 40 and a bunch of guys were getting 4.7 and 4.8s. I was one of the slowest in the 40 but I had the best vertical. I thought they correlate? What areas do I need to improve on?




    Plus, just about every kid used a football/track stance or smting they made up for there 40s and I have the defranco combine DVD and have been practicing the stance for weeks and have gotten pretty good at the technical part of the 40.
    They do correlate and that is pretty rare to see the highest vertical score the lowest 40. I would say you just need to get out and start sprinting more often. I don't know much about your lifting stats, but from the sounds of it you seem like you are a powerful guy (probably can squat a lot). You most likely are a strength jumper rather than an elastic jumper. Elastic jumpers (those who can barely squat their weight, but have 30 inch verts) usually show more of the correlation between vert and 40 than strength jumpers do.

    What is your squat max?
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    Originally Posted by TwiceTheSpeed View Post
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    ALWAYS a dynamic warm-uo, and a static cooldown. VERY IMPORTANT!!

    as always consume a clean diet...and you'll be on your way.
    How many times a week would you do this workout?
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    Originally Posted by dave.hilfiger View Post
    How many times a week would you do this workout?
    2 times...
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    Know exactly what you mean toad, played on saturday was only about 15 degrees and sunny but my god my fitness suffered lol was playing on the wing, didnt even have much to do lol won 64-0 though last game of the season this saturday, sad times
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    had a game this past saturday. my face looks like a i took a nose dive in some pavement haha. everyone at work keeps asking if i was in a car accident. just bad scrapes on my forehead.

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    Ijust started lifting a lot recently and got a home gym set up, and now my 14 yr old son wants me to help him get a weight lifting program started. His primary focus is on helping him in sports--basketball and football.

    I'm thinking of having him do a program like this.

    Stength: similar to Rippetoes: squats, bench, rows, deadlifts 3 sets of 5 each

    Plyo: set up a plyometrics workout box jumps, squat jumps, lunge jumps, dynamic pushups. Or maybe bag the dynamic pushups and do bench press again like in the strength workout and then go to Plyometrics for legs.

    And alternate workouts with one day of rest between. Mon: strength, Tue: rest, Wed: plyo, Th: rest, Fri: strength, Sat: rest, Sun: plyo, etc.

    What do you think of this?
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    Originally Posted by mlp_22531 View Post
    Ijust started lifting a lot recently and got a home gym set up, and now my 14 yr old son wants me to help him get a weight lifting program started. His primary focus is on helping him in sports--basketball and football.

    I'm thinking of having him do a program like this.

    Stength: similar to Rippetoes: squats, bench, rows, deadlifts 3 sets of 5 each

    Plyo: set up a plyometrics workout box jumps, squat jumps, lunge jumps, dynamic pushups. Or maybe bag the dynamic pushups and do bench press again like in the strength workout and then go to Plyometrics for legs.

    And alternate workouts with one day of rest between. Mon: strength, Tue: rest, Wed: plyo, Th: rest, Fri: strength, Sat: rest, Sun: plyo, etc.

    What do you think of this?
    I think your kid is going to be a stud! lol...

    No, it looks good though...It's hard to prescribe to a kid without knowing anything about them. As I am sure you are aware of, some kids have facial hair by age 12, some don't get it until their 20. Basically what I am saying is if your kid has the maturity level that Greg Oden had when he was 14 he could train like an older athlete...if he's rail thin and is in extremely early stages of puberty I would be careful.

    That being said...Rippetoes is fine, but you NEED to be there supervising him with any multi-joint exercise i.e. (clean, jerk, etc). I think you have a good mix of strength and plyo exercises there but just be sure he is getting adequate rest. You're giving him days off which is good, but if he suffers from muscle soreness early on don't be hesitant to give him two days off in a row...sometimes that works better for young athletes.

    Enough with my rambling...Just supervise and teach proper form with light weight or even a broom stick...

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    I've got a couple of questions.

    1. What does it mean to 'seal' someone in the post? I've only ever played rec/street ball and I'm not acquainted with the term. Any time I'd have a mismatch I'd take advantage of it by getting deep post position and the guard would stand at the 3 pt line asking me seal to my man.

    Very confused... I've got my man pretty much pinned under the rim and here's the funny part, he only passes when I lose position resulting in a turnover.

    2. I'm weaker and much slower than usual, not sure what it is but I didn't even work out for much of last week. My reaction time was slower, people were beating me off the dribble left and right, and moving me in the post with relative ease. Now I know I'm 168 lbs but compared to say a week ago playing with this very same cast, I don't get what's changed.

    It's like their pushing and I can't push back as hard as I try. When I think about it, I'm trying but it's like my body is giving out on me.

    3. Last question, how would I defend against screens? Not pick and rolls but when another player is trying to free up and having one of their teammates screen me off. I got burnt all game by this.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Originally Posted by FryDude View Post
    I've got a couple of questions.

    1. What does it mean to 'seal' someone in the post? I've only ever played rec/street ball, I'm not acquainted with the term. Any time I'd have a mismatch I'd take advantage of it by getting deep post position and the guard would stand at the 3 pt line asking me seal to my man.

    Very confused... I've got my man pretty much pinned under the rim and here's the funny part, he only passes when I lose position resulting in a turnover.

    2. I'm weaker and much slower than usual, not sure what it is but I didn't even work out for much of last week. My reaction time was slower, people were beating me off the dribble left and right, and moving me in the post with relative ease. Now I know I'm 168 lbs but compared to say a week ago playing with this very same cast, I don't get what's changed.

    It's like their pushing and I can't push back as hard as I try. When I think about it, I'm trying but it's like my body is giving out on me.

    Thanks in advance.
    Sealing means making yourself wide and establishing a position where an entry pass can be made to you in the post.

    Could be lack of sleep, different nutrition, stress, meal timing, etc. Just try different things and see what works, carbs before playing, no carbs, lifting before, etc.
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    Originally Posted by brockles View Post
    Know exactly what you mean toad, played on saturday was only about 15 degrees and sunny but my god my fitness suffered lol was playing on the wing, didnt even have much to do lol won 64-0 though last game of the season this saturday, sad times
    we played in about 25 degrees and hot as **** sun, i hate the early winter games
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