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Old 05-22-2007, 11:16 PM   #31
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we have a shrug machine at my gym, its kind of awkward but its a very strict motion... also i've seen shrugs done on a free weight machine for chest that the person straddled the bench and shrugged the handles also diff, never tried
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:23 PM   #32
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:26 PM   #33
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Old 05-22-2007, 11:31 PM   #34
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i like dbs cuz the bbs hit my nuts every single time i shrug
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:10 AM   #35
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I never shrug. I don't want big traps. Big traps make a person look like a hunchback, and it takes away from the impressiveness of wide delts.

I think way too many people do too many shrugs.

But the real problem I see is that people who shrug always use too much weight. They don't really do shrugs, they just do twitches.

My first year, I did shrugs all the time. Then I analyzed it, and realized that I only did shrugs because they were easy. Such a short range of motion, and it's easy to use a lot of weight. Purely an ego thing. And by that time, my traps were way too big in comparison to my delts. I was being laughed at in the gym for looking like a hunchback. I spent the next two years doing concentrated delt training to fix the problem.
Interesting take, actually, but...

I'll admit that having huge hulking traps does not look very elegant as Serge Nubret would say. However I have no desire to look elegant. Yes, traps are an easy muscle group to work, I grant you, and they are a lot of fun to work, IMO. But having any one bodypart that clearly overpowers the rest of your body will look bizarre and subject to ridicule.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:45 AM   #36
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Our gym only goes up to 100s for dbs and I rep those for over 30 so it isn't really doing anything, switched over to barbells now.

My only drawback is the barbell hitting my nuts on the way up and the temptation to add too much weight and turn the power rack into a 10,000 decibel trampoline for the barbell, which I see far too many people do.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:58 AM   #37
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most people i know use a BB. my choice of weapon is a shrug bar.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:59 PM   #38
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most people i know use a BB. my choice of weapon is a shrug bar.
I have heard about the shrug bar. I would kill to have one at my gym.

Did barbell shrugs today. They definitely did help seeing I am sore right now.

they will be stiff tomorrow. Good stiff though.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:47 PM   #39
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My only drawback is the barbell hitting my nuts on the way up
hahaha...exactly. I mean i'll use Barbells for shrugs when i decide to do snatch-grip shrugs, other than that it's the Trap bar, or Dbs.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:18 PM   #40
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Very true on hitting the nutz thing.

I now just adjust to miss.

But it is a big adjustment.. *badum Tsssssh*
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Old 05-24-2007, 01:26 AM   #41
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I use both bb to the front and back and db's at sides
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:18 AM   #42
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For those guys looking for a more unorthodox approach: use your gym's standing calf raise. Stand on the floor, not on the raised platform. Adjust the shoulder pads as necessary. Shrug as usual.

No chance of your grip weakening before your traps. Makes a good finishing move.

For a nice shock, try these for super-high reps every once in a while.
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For those guys looking for a more unorthodox approach: use your gym's standing calf raise. Stand on the floor, not on the raised platform. Adjust the shoulder pads as necessary. Shrug as usual.

No chance of your grip weakening before your traps. Makes a good finishing move.

For a nice shock, try these for super-high reps every once in a while.
Hell yeah, I have done these before when some *******s where taking forever on the smith machine and pwoer rack. Good call
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The calf raise machine usually doesn't have anywhere near enough weight though.
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The calf raise machine usually doesn't have anywhere near enough weight though.
Does yourcalf machine allow for hanging extra plates on it?.

Likewise, you can also do 1-1/2 reps, or just go for a crazy set of 100 (one of my competitive bb friends sets a timer for five minutes, then just reps out, getting anywhere between 300-400 reps...crazy I know, but as an occasional shock technique, it works).
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Yeah you can stack plates on top of it but a tower of 45s is bound to come crashing down when you start doing your reps.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:03 AM   #47
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I like the ROM on dumbell shrugs and emphasize the top of the movement with a peak contraction.
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Smile I Vote 4 DB's

My vote goes to DB's cause you can use them: front, side & back; and you can go light if don't want bigger "traps" or go heavy if you want them... IMO.
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Me too, Kate. Who wants to be throwing around all those big heavy thingys.

Seriously though, I use DBs 99% of the time. We have 220 lb DBs at my gym and I don't even go that heavy very often at all. Although I know you can go heavy as hell with shrugs, technique plays a much larger role (what else is new, right?). Most people I see are using far more weight than they need and consquently are not executing the exercise efficiently. Just my opinion of course...
Agreed....Form plays a much larger role than just how much weight. I see way too many lifting weights and not hitting the target muscle at all because they are using other parts of their bodies to get the weight up. I use both bb's and db's, but, I'm starting to prefer db's on almost all of my exercises.
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I use HS lever machine for shrugs. -I tried both dumbell and barbell -dumbells are good ,especially seated ones, but dumbell handles caused too much calousing.

Barbell are fine, but I found it easier to use HS level machine (in terms I dont have to wait for the bar -this machine is always empty) plus it has nice grips which are easy on palms
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I use HS lever machine for shrugs. -I tried both dumbell and barbell -dumbells are good ,especially seated ones, but dumbell handles caused too much calousing.

Barbell are fine, but I found it easier to use HS level machine (in terms I dont have to wait for the bar -this machine is always empty) plus it has nice grips which are easy on palms
Actually, I forgot about this one. I like this one too, usually because some musclehead has walked away from it without unloading. (Hey, it's annoying to have to put a dozen 45's on the damn thing yourself).
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Location: West Virginia, United States
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I do them both. We have a barbell that conforms around the body to make shrugs much easier cuz a straight BB either hits your nuts or hits your ass and is just a real pain.
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