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    Overhead press before bench?

    This is the routine in order as of now.

    - Flat Dumbbell Bench Press
    - Incline Barbell Bench Press
    - Dips
    - Overhead press
    - Overhead Dumbbell Extension
    - Side Laterals
    - Pushdowns
    - Cable Crossover / Pec Deck

    Should overhead presses come earlier than mid workout?
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    why dont you train tri/shoulders in one workout and train chest another day?
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    Originally Posted by amnotjokin View Post
    why dont you train tri/shoulders in one workout and train chest another day?
    3 day split, I have a hard time getting to the gym 3 times a week, 4 day per week would be too much.
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    that is a terrible ****ing day. you dont need that many exercises.

    thats ****ing rediculous.

    theres way too many demanding exercises there
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    that is a terrible ****ing day. you dont need that many exercises.

    thats ****ing rediculous.

    theres way too many demanding exercises there
    Look here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120309781

    Low sets.
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    Originally Posted by 88jayto View Post
    what are your lifting stats?
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    what are your lifting stats?
    does it ****ing matter? your a ****in idiot

    as for this routine i would try and cut out an exercise or two, or as long as your sets are around like 15 - 20 you should be okay. as for over headpress i would put it at the top with your other main push exercises. put pec deck after all your chest, then finish up shoulders, and only do 1 tricep exercise with about 12 reps of good form and that will be enough to finish up your triceps for the day
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    what are your lifting stats?
    I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

    Squat 135X10
    Dead Lift 215X5
    Overhead BB 95X5
    Bench 135X7
    Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10
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    Originally Posted by fkenhuge View Post
    does it ****ing matter? your a ****in idiot

    as for this routine i would try and cut out an exercise or two, or as long as your sets are around like 15 - 20 you should be okay. as for over headpress i would put it at the top with your other main push exercises. put pec deck after all your chest, then finish up shoulders, and only do 1 tricep exercise with about 12 reps of good form and that will be enough to finish up your triceps for the day
    yeah ****er, it does matter. look at his lifts- he would benefit better from something much simpler. GTFO

    Originally Posted by 88jayto View Post
    I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

    Squat 135X10
    Dead Lift 215X5
    Overhead BB 95X5
    Bench 135X7
    Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10
    a 3x5 would benefit you much more than this
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    a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

    his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds
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    Ight, so in conclusion less lifts?
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    Originally Posted by fkenhuge View Post
    a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

    his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds
    strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


    read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


    read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113
    k thnx, but what about my question.
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    if your training 3 days a week why not do a full body routine

    like

    squats
    bench press
    bent over row
    military press
    isolation 1
    isolation 2

    choose any isolated work for the last two like somthing thats lagging can be done in 45mins but its real intense ive still use this routine, good gains
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


    read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113
    this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none
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    Originally Posted by fkenhuge View Post
    this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none
    here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=923892

    now get on your mother ****ing knees and suck my dick
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    I did riptoes (3X5) till i made no gains for a few months. Now I am doing Tom Mutaffis and I am seen gains faster. Now I want to adjust the routine because I feel an imbalance (shoulder exercises are lacking.)
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    Originally Posted by kman025 View Post
    here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=923892

    now get on your mother ****ing knees and suck my dick
    thats like one guy who ever gained mass from that, he just ate like a ape..not many people gain mass from that ****.
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    Originally Posted by Shesofine View Post
    thats like one guy who ever gained mass from that, he just ate like a ape..not many people gain mass from that ****.
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    Originally Posted by fkenhuge View Post
    this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none
    I have never done a split, only 3 x 5, 5 x 5, Westside, and full body routines, and at one point was 190 @ 9%, now I'm 245 @ 15% and hoping to get to 205-210 @ 10%.
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    Originally Posted by fkenhuge View Post
    a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

    his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds
    wow stfu. im guessing that 200 odd lbs of yours is fat.
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    Originally Posted by 88jayto View Post
    I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

    Squat 135X10
    Dead Lift 215X5
    Overhead BB 95X5
    Bench 135X7
    Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10
    **** me your lifts are a little stronger then mines (more reps same weight) and im on a 5 day split and been working out for 5 months...
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    read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113
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