Overhead press before bench?

[88jayto]

This is the routine in order as of now.

- Flat Dumbbell Bench Press
- Incline Barbell Bench Press
- Dips
- Overhead press
- Overhead Dumbbell Extension
- Side Laterals
- Pushdowns
- Cable Crossover / Pec Deck

Should overhead presses come earlier than mid workout?

[amnotjokin]

why dont you train tri/shoulders in one workout and train chest another day?

[88jayto]

why dont you train tri/shoulders in one workout and train chest another day?

3 day split, I have a hard time getting to the gym 3 times a week, 4 day per week would be too much.

[kman025]

that is a terrible ****ing day. you dont need that many exercises.

thats ****ing rediculous.

theres way too many demanding exercises there

[88jayto]

that is a terrible ****ing day. you dont need that many exercises.

thats ****ing rediculous.

theres way too many demanding exercises there

Look here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120309781

Low sets.

[kman025]

Look here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120309781

Low sets.

what are your lifting stats?

[fkenhuge]

what are your lifting stats?

does it ****ing matter? your a ****in idiot

as for this routine i would try and cut out an exercise or two, or as long as your sets are around like 15 - 20 you should be okay. as for over headpress i would put it at the top with your other main push exercises. put pec deck after all your chest, then finish up shoulders, and only do 1 tricep exercise with about 12 reps of good form and that will be enough to finish up your triceps for the day

[88jayto]

what are your lifting stats?

I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

Squat 135X10
Dead Lift 215X5
Overhead BB 95X5
Bench 135X7
Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10

[kman025]

does it ****ing matter? your a ****in idiot

as for this routine i would try and cut out an exercise or two, or as long as your sets are around like 15 - 20 you should be okay. as for over headpress i would put it at the top with your other main push exercises. put pec deck after all your chest, then finish up shoulders, and only do 1 tricep exercise with about 12 reps of good form and that will be enough to finish up your triceps for the day

yeah ****er, it does matter. look at his lifts- he would benefit better from something much simpler. GTFO

I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

Squat 135X10
Dead Lift 215X5
Overhead BB 95X5
Bench 135X7
Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10

a 3x5 would benefit you much more than this

[fkenhuge]

a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds

[88jayto]

Ight, so in conclusion less lifts?

[kman025]

a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds

strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


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[88jayto]

strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113

k thnx, but what about my question.

[MuscleDood]

if your training 3 days a week why not do a full body routine

like

squats
bench press
bent over row
military press
isolation 1
isolation 2

choose any isolated work for the last two like somthing thats lagging can be done in 45mins but its real intense ive still use this routine, good gains

[fkenhuge]

strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113

this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none

[kman025]

this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none

here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=923892

now get on your mother ****ing knees and suck my dick

[88jayto]

I did riptoes (3X5) till i made no gains for a few months. Now I am doing Tom Mutaffis and I am seen gains faster. Now I want to adjust the routine because I feel an imbalance (shoulder exercises are lacking.)

[Shesofine_old]

here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=923892

now get on your mother ****ing knees and suck my dick

thats like one guy who ever gained mass from that, he just ate like a ape..not many people gain mass from that ****.

[N01SYtZ]

thats like one guy who ever gained mass from that, he just ate like a ape..not many people gain mass from that ****.

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[CaseyPL]

this is not entirely true, sure he will gain muscle, not near as much with a full split, find me one teen on this forum that has gotten a big physique by entirely 3x5 or a strength program, none

I have never done a split, only 3 x 5, 5 x 5, Westside, and full body routines, and at one point was 190 @ 9%, now I'm 245 @ 15% and hoping to get to 205-210 @ 10%.

[Scott.]

a 3x5 would not benefit him, he is looking to grow and a split like his here is he best way to do it you gtfo

his lifts are pretty good for a beginner being 5'8 and 125 pounds

wow stfu. im guessing that 200 odd lbs of yours is fat.

[IceyVeins]

I never bothered maxing but here are my rep stats.

Squat 135X10
Dead Lift 215X5
Overhead BB 95X5
Bench 135X7
Dumbell Row 45Lbs X10

**** me your lifts are a little stronger then mines (more reps same weight) and im on a 5 day split and been working out for 5 months...

[AndrewK1]

" This isn't bad at all, but I wouldn't recommend it to a total beginner.

Someone looking for something to do after getting their strength up and lifting consistently for a while though...decent little split. "

This. Kman is right and sheisonfire is wrong about riptoes.

[far3]

seems rough

[whiteboyy09]

Stats: 5'8", 125 lbs
routine: ****ty

[fatdaddy67]

strength+caloric surplus=muscle gain


read this, learn something http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/bod...html#post21113

Good post Kman. Thanks.