New E-BOL - Non-Steroidal Anabolic Growth Matrix

[Bane]

Originally Posted by mayerthegreat

Out of curiosity, any idea if it is going to be a powder or pill/cap?

P.S.
I'm sure you have an idea, just want to know if you can release that yet.

99% it will be powder. I don't think many will enjoy the idea of 12 caps.

[jgrate]

Originally Posted by Bane

Just the best pre-workout of all time. Stay tuned.

Awesome, I'm intrigued. Will it have creatine or be creatine free so as to be stacked with C-bol?

Also, one final question about E-bol, just to clarify. A dose 30-45 minutes pre-workout IS beneficial and recommended even though I don't consume any more food before working out? (if it matters, i will be sipping on Intrabolic or SizeOn V2 during workout).

Edit: While im here, a C-bol question. If I train 4-5 days a week, 12 caps split into 2 doses on ON days is good dosing so as to not lose results but save money?

[JornT]

P-bol has oxaloacetic acid?

[Bane]

Originally Posted by jgrate

Awesome, I'm intrigued. Will it have creatine or be creatine free so as to be stacked with C-bol?

Also, one final question about E-bol, just to clarify. A dose 30-45 minutes pre-workout IS beneficial and recommended even though I don't consume any more food before working out? (if it matters, i will be sipping on Intrabolic or SizeOn V2 during workout).

Edit: While im here, a C-bol question. If I train 4-5 days a week, 12 caps split into 2 doses on ON days is good dosing so as to not lose results but save money?

It is designed especially with stacking with C-bol in mind.
If you want to save money you can take C-bol on training days only and use another cheaper creatine source on off days. For optimal results continuous use is recommended-there is a "loading" phase for nitrates too, though this depends on the individual.

[jgrate]

Originally Posted by Bane

It is designed especially with stacking with C-bol in mind.
If you want to save money you can take C-bol on training days only and use another cheaper creatine source on off days. For optimal results continuous use is recommended-there is a "loading" phase for nitrates too, though this depends on the individual.

Thanks, maybe I'll go with 6 caps on my off days. What about the E-bol clarification?

[Bane]

The process of muscle rebuilding begins after the training, it is recommended you take your E-bol with your PWO shake/meal.

[molto]

Originally Posted by Bane

The process of muscle rebuilding begins after the training, it is recommended you take your E-bol with your PWO shake/meal.

so take it pre and post ?

[MattyH7688]

Originally Posted by molto

so take it pre and post ?

yes

[jgrate]

What is the benefit of taking a dose pre-workout if you are not taking in a significant amount of nutrients over the next hour or so compared to one of your other meals during the day?

[SwolenONE]

Im going to have to hop on E Bol once Im done with C Bol, I feel for somebody like myself who already has optimal test levels but finds recovery tough when training hard as my metabolism is insane, that E Bol (or any effective adaptagen) may be the most worthwhile thing to try.

Banes comment about E Bol allowing him to not feel the insane lethargy of postWO cortisol spike makes this sound like it may, in fact, be the best NHA on the market.

[samsumon]

Might be a stupid question,but whats the difference between this and c-bol?

[Persch889]

What about BCAA's? I know E-Bol increases protein Synthesis, so would it be beneficial to add/increase amounts of BCAA's?

[MBSowards]

Originally Posted by Bane

99% it will be powder. I don't think many will enjoy the idea of 12 caps.

Just name it Animal P-Bol.

[Persch889]

I have my log up if anyone is interested!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120810061

[blackdream71]

Originally Posted by samsumon

Might be a stupid question,but whats the difference between this and c-bol?

ummm one's a CREATINE product and one's an ECDYSTERONE product.

simple enough?

[ZB126]

Originally Posted by Persch889

I have my log up if anyone is interested!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120810061

Nice, you have a lot to look forward to! As of today from my log: I went up another 5lbs in bench press since Saturday which puts my calculated one rep max up from 196lbs on day 5 to 219lbs on day 15. E-Bol is legit!

now I just gotta get picked in that Dicana promo and get some muscle sparing fat loss to top off this awesome cycle of E-Bol

[Persch889]

Originally Posted by ZB126

Nice, you have a lot to look forward to! As of today from my log: I went up another 5lbs in bench press since Saturday which puts my calculated one rep max up from 196lbs on day 5 to 219lbs on day 15. E-Bol is legit!

now I just gotta get picked in that Dicana promo and get some muscle sparing fat loss to top off this awesome cycle of E-Bol

Estimated 195lbs on day 5 and now 219lbs on day 15?!?! Maybe I will reach my goal of 225 by the new year!!!

[-MSR9889-]

Originally Posted by Mixelflick

BTW, I have a recent customer who's running Ebol V2 with The Blueprint protocol I've designed. I expect nothing less than excellent results and will keep you posted as to his progress...

i was actually gonna write a review of the program as a whole myself.

so the dosing should be 2/2/2 on off days and 2 morning, 2 pre and 2 post on training days?

[ZB126]

Originally Posted by Persch889

Estimated 195lbs on day 5 and now 219lbs on day 15?!?! Maybe I will reach my goal of 225 by the new year!!!

yeah thats from a 3 rep max on day and a 5 rep max today so its pretty accurate...10lbs of sheer weight addition in ten days and then increased reps makes it hard to compare without one rep maxes but the ease at which I put it up today despite doing bench on Saturday also was crazy. I had an injury at the end of my h-drol cycle and so I'm glad to be recovered and gaining my strength back quickly!

[molto]

Originally Posted by -MSR9889-

i was actually gonna write a review of the program as a whole myself.

so the dosing should be 2/2/2 on off days and 2 morning, 2 pre and 2 post on training days?

What I'm doing is
off days : 2-2-2 all 30 mins before main meals or with protein shakes

training days: 2 30 mins before largest meal, 2 with protein shake 1 hr before workout, preworkout supplements 30 mins before workout, 2 with recovery drink immediately after workout and later on post workout meal

[ZB126]

Originally Posted by molto

What I'm doing is
off days : 2-2-2 all 30 mins before main meals or with protein shakes

training days: 2 30 mins before largest meal, 2 with protein shake 1 hr before workout, preworkout supplements 30 mins before workout, 2 with recovery drink immediately after workout and later on post workout meal

no....not with a shake... As Bane said, always take it on an empty stomach for the best results

[ZB126]

Originally Posted by Bane

Yes.30 minutes before your workout.

Originally Posted by Bane

The recommended dosing is take in an empty stomach that is then followed by a meal. This will allow you body to make better use of the nutrients.

and here is the exact quote in case you doubt me

[jgrate]

Originally Posted by ZB126

and here is the exact quote in case you doubt me

What page is that first quote from?

So he suggests taking one dose 30 minutes pre workout even if you are not consuming any more food until your PostWO shake?

[-MSR9889-]

Originally Posted by Bane

The process of muscle rebuilding begins after the training, it is recommended you take your E-bol with your PWO shake/meal.

with as in "with" or with as in "30 min before"? and the rest should be 30 min before meals? there are a few contradicting posts.

[triplewhammy]

Originally Posted by Bane

Alcohol is amphyphylic actually, which is why 99,99% of the extractions we do in pharmacy use either ethanol or methanol at first step.With alcohol you take both organic and inorganic parts. At the next step of seperating ecdys from the total extract, they are taken from the aquatic part(with petrol ether used as one of the organic phases i remember). There are quite a few papers describing this.
It's pharmacokinetics, as described by Syrov, the Japanese and Greek researchers also follow the PKs of passive diffusion water soluble compounds.
And of course we agree having a little bit fat alongside ecdy in teh GI is good

Originally Posted by ZB126

no....not with a shake... As Bane said, always take it on an empty stomach for the best results

[ZB126]

Originally Posted by jgrate

What page is that first quote from?

So he suggests taking one dose 30 minutes pre workout even if you are not consuming any more food until your PostWO shake?

page 17....if you click the arrow in the box next to the title in the quotation box in my post it takes you directly to the post that is being quoted

Originally Posted by -MSR9889-

with as in "with" or with as in "30 min before"? and the rest should be 30 min before meals? there are a few contradicting posts.

I see what you are saying and getting at....looks like we are either looking into this too much or need further clarification haha....I take mine 30 min preworkout w/o any food or a preworkout shake...I have low GI carbs and slow digesting protein about 2 hours before that so I don't usually feel like I need anything else before hitting the gym