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11-11-2009, 01:27 PM
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High Fructose Corn Syrup...a recipe for hypertension according to scientific research
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Elevated dietary fructose linked to high blood pressure
A diet high in fructose increases the risk of developing high blood pressure (hypertension), according to a paper being presented at the American Society of Nephrology's 42nd Annual Meeting and Scientific Exposition in San Diego, California. The findings suggest that cutting back on processed foods and beverages that contain high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) may help prevent hypertension.
Over the last 200 years, the rate of fructose intake has directly paralleled the increasing rate of obesity, which has increased sharply in the last 20 years since the introduction of HFCS. Today, Americans consume 30% more fructose than 20 years ago and up to four times more than 100 years ago, when obesity rates were less than 5%. While this increase mirrors the dramatic rise in the prevalence of hypertension, studies have been inconsistent in linking excess fructose in the diet to hypertension.
Diana Jalal, MD (University of Colorado Denver Health Sciences Center), and her colleagues studied the issue in a large representative population of US adults. They examined 4,528 adults 18 years of age or older with no prior history of hypertension. Fructose intake was calculated based on a dietary questionnaire, and foods such as fruit juices, soft drinks, bakery products, and candy were included. Dr. Jalal's team found that people who ate or drank more than 74 grams per day of fructose (2.5 sugary soft drinks per day) increased their risk of developing hypertension. Specifically, a diet of more than 74 grams per day of fructose led to a 28%, 36%, and 87% higher risk for blood pressure levels of 135/85, 140/90, and 160/100 mmHg, respectively. (A normal blood pressure reading is below 120/80 mmHg.)
"These results indicate that high fructose intake in the form of added sugars is significantly and independently associated with higher blood pressure levels in the US adult population with no previous history of hypertension," the authors concluded. Additional studies are needed to see if low fructose diets can normalize blood pressure and prevent the development of hypertension.
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11-11-2009, 01:29 PM
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Everyone usually gives me a puzzled look whenever I tell them I do not drink soda (not even diet). Like I'm the one who has the problem...
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11-11-2009, 01:32 PM
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11-11-2009, 01:39 PM
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11-11-2009, 01:42 PM
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Cool study. I'll make sure to get exactly 74 grams of fructose every day and no more to prevent the negative side effects.
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11-11-2009, 01:44 PM
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For once a post by El Mariachi that I appreciate. IMO the worst part about HFCS is it can suppress the feeling of fullness, encouraging you to eat more of it. It's almost like it has addictive properties, and this is why it's so widely used.
I found a simple way to maintain a sensible diet is to read the labels, and avoid products with high levels of sugar (and/or HFCS), sodium, saturated and/or hydrogenated fats, and preservatives. Now try to find something that fits at the local supermarket. You'll notice that most of what you can buy is along the perimeter of the store, and very little down the aisles.
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11-11-2009, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
Everyone usually gives me a puzzled look whenever I tell them I do not drink soda (not even diet). Like I'm the one who has the problem...
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this. i do work on peoples houses and get offered a drink almost every time. i always say water and they have a puzzled look and say "oh ok....you sure you dont want a soda or anything"
nice of them to offer of course but it just seems like nobody gives a sh*t or just is not educated on what soda contains
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11-11-2009, 01:59 PM
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Wasnt there a study a few years ago that indicated the body's physiciological response to HFCS was really strange?
I know since my wife and I have cut out all processed food, we feel better and never really have to diet.
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11-11-2009, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SDMuscleBuddy
For once a post by El Mariachi that I appreciate. IMO the worst part about HFCS is it can suppress the feeling of fullness, encouraging you to eat more of it. It's almost like it has addictive properties, and this is why it's so widely used.
I found a simple way to maintain a sensible diet is to read the labels, and avoid products with high levels of sugar (and/or HFCS), sodium, saturated and/or hydrogenated fats, and preservatives. Now try to find something that fits at the local supermarket. You'll notice that most of what you can buy is along the perimeter of the store, and very little down the aisles.
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Yeah, I've noticed that it's pretty tough to find stuff that doesn't have HFCS in it. I went grocery shopping when I was trying to make an effort to limit HFCS and got frustrated. The biggest surprise was how many 'whole wheat' breads have it. It seemed like every kind of sauce/condiment had it also. I wanted some bbq sauce and EVERY single one had HFCS
I agree, staying to the outside parameter is the best option.
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11-11-2009, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markymark69
I know since my wife and I have cut out all processed food, we feel better and never really have to diet.
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11-11-2009, 02:07 PM
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I used to associate high fructose corn syrup with:
...but now I know it can also lead to
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11-11-2009, 02:09 PM
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I facepalmed IRL.
Two dumb bitches' ignorance isn't really the best way of getting a point across, wow.
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11-11-2009, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markymark69
Wasnt there a study a few years ago that indicated the body's physiciological response to HFCS was really strange?
I know since my wife and I have cut out all processed food, we feel better and never really have to diet.
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What disappointed me about this study is that there is no mention of direct comparison's to plain table sugar but based on other studies, it has become clear that HFCS takes a higher metabolic toll on the body overall than plain sugar alone, primarily due to its special properties and the higher impact it has on the liver.
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11-11-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1.8Tsunami
Yeah, I've noticed that it's pretty tough to find stuff that doesn't have HFCS in it. I went grocery shopping when I was trying to make an effort to limit HFCS and got frustrated. The biggest surprise was how many 'whole wheat' breads have it. It seemed like every kind of sauce/condiment had it also. I wanted some bbq sauce and EVERY single one had HFCS
I agree, staying to the outside parameter is the best option.
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You are not kidding about the BBQ sauce. I smoked a pork butt last weekend and a few of the sauces had HFCS as the #1 ingredient.
I finally found the VA section of food and bought some locally made sauce without it.
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11-11-2009, 02:34 PM
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Making your own sauce is not that hard and is usually the best way to avoid the HFCS laiden junk.
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11-11-2009, 02:40 PM
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It is good to see Stevia becoming more and more common, lots more products now using Stevia, hopefully its a trend that continues!
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11-11-2009, 02:47 PM
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HFCS is a food industry trick as it bypasses certain body functions in the stomach.
Look at this way, HFCS replaced sugar as a sweetener. When someone consumes sugar after so much the body says, "Stop I can't process any more sugar." You get a full feeling as a result. Kind of like how you can't OD on marijuana cause you get so high you can't get any higher so you stop smoking. That's what sugar does.
HFCS bypasses this body reaction. That's why you can drink a liter of pop, while bloated and inadvisable, you can drink some more.
So now put this in foods any way you can. People will eat more, feel less satisfied, making them eat more, etc...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markymark69
You are not kidding about the BBQ sauce. I smoked a pork butt last weekend and a few of the sauces had HFCS as the #1 ingredient.
I finally found the VA section of food and bought some locally made sauce without it.
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You and I have plenty to agree on today. I also smoked a butt and a chuck over the weekend. I found that our local grocery chain carries some BBQ, ketchup, and Worchester Sauce all without HFCS.
It is truly amazing where you can find the stuff once you start reading labels.
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11-11-2009, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by haulingboat
You and I have plenty to agree on today. I also smoked a butt and a chuck over the weekend. I found that our local grocery chain carries some BBQ, ketchup, and Worchester Sauce all without HFCS.
It is truly amazing where you can find the stuff once you start reading labels.
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The options have improved tenfold over the past few years. There are so many alternatives that simply didn't exist before and now there is finally a market that can sustain them.
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11-11-2009, 02:56 PM
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Could you post a link to this study or article?
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These studies need to be done on thousands of test subjects and show me an overweight person that does not have any of these issues, even if they got fat eating an extra plate of organic pasta and olive oil.
You know what I mean?
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11-11-2009, 02:58 PM
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Actually you're wrong pal
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It isn't actually banned in Canada.
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Could you post a link to this study or article?
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1029211521.htm
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These studies need to be done on thousands of test subjects and show me an overweight person that does not have any of these issues, even if they got fat eating an extra plate of organic pasta and olive oil.
You know what I mean?
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That's obvious, and it isn't the point. What studies have suggested is that HFCS presents a greater health risk overall than simple eating a diet high in starches independent of the HFCS factor. Clearly more studies need to be done, there are always more studies to be done, but it is becoming clear that for optimal health, HFCS intake needs to be reduced to the absolute minimum possible.
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Originally Posted by ElMariachi
The options have improved tenfold over the past few years. There are so many alternatives that simply didn't exist before and now there is finally a market that can sustain them.
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True. It is nice to see more whole grain options in the cracker isle and reduced fat cheese in the dairy section.
It's nice to find healthy stuff my kid will gobble up. I wish I had known more about this topic when I was young.
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Originally Posted by ElMariachi
What disappointed me about this study is that there is no mention of direct comparison's to plain table sugar but based on other studies, it has become clear that HFCS takes a higher metabolic toll on the body overall than plain sugar alone, primarily due to its special properties and the higher impact it has on the liver.
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Plain table sugar consists also of glucose and fructose (50:50 more or less), just with a lower fructose share than HFCS:
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The resulting syrup (after enzyme conversion) contains approximately 90% fructose and is HFCS 90. To make the other common forms of HFCS (HFCS 55 and HFCS 42) the HFCS 90 is mixed with 100% glucose corn syrup in the appropriate ratios to form the desired HFCS. The enzyme process that changes the 100% glucose corn syrup into HFCS 90 is as follows:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
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11-11-2009, 05:21 PM
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Oh my god, I can't believe you dumbasses are bringing this up. HFCS barely has any more fructose than table syrup. Read a ****ing book, or you know, the nutrition forum.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064539
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064535
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19064536
there you go dumbasses. everytime someone goes on a crusade against HFCS they use a fructose study. and then they say fruit is bad for you. and then because HFCS says high fructose in the name (durrr no **** its high fructose, regular corn syrup is full of glucose and glucose polymers) so HFCS is the same as fructose.
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11-11-2009, 08:58 PM
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Listing studies that were sponsored by ConAgra? Fantastic.
Also high fructose intake, regardless of source has been linked with diabetes and hypertension. The issue with HFCS is how prevalent it is in many foods and the fact that you can load up more easily on massive doses of fructose just from eating standard everyday processed foods that contain HFCS then you can by consuming large amounts of fruit.
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2...in-resistance/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0823094819.htm
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LOL
".....in moderation."
brb quenching my thirst with a thimble of grape drank.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JuanDenver
LOL
".....in moderation."
brb quenching my thirst with a thimble of grape drank.
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I eat about 500g of HFCS daily and I'm jacked.
*shrug*
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