This matters because he lied to the American people once again. He has spent millions and undergone a thorough deception to make it appear he is a christian when in reality he is a closet muslim.
Personally I don't care but I really do think we'd be better off with an athiest running the country.
I don't want our president's judgment being clouded by religious dogma.
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Personally I don't care but I really do think we'd be better off with an athiest running the country.
I don't want our president's judgment being clouded by religious dogma.
Good point. If anyone takes religion to its extremes, then they do crazy things. Happens all the time. We've been lucky that no true extremist has been POTUS (yet).
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This matters because he lied to the American people once again. He has spent millions and undergone a thorough deception to make it appear he is a christian when in reality he is a closet muslim.
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Why does it matter if Obama is a lying Muslim, if he did not lie he would still be a christian and if he were really an atheist using christianity to get votes... who cares, that is what is expected of politicians.
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So all Muslims are enemies of the nation and are illegal in America? I'm not following...
For the most part they are stupid people who have a major unfounded belief as the central pillar for their life choices. I certianly don't want one running the US.
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For the most part they are stupid people who have a major unfounded belief as the central pillar for their life choices. I certianly don't want one running the US.
You insult like a 9 year old.
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Oh wait whats this?
Hmm...first amendment...united states constitution
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
I don't care if he's Muslim or not, but if he's lying about something like that I think that's a big issue. Of course, on the list of things he has lied about, this is probably way down the list in order of importance I guess.
I really don't see how a Christian could accidentally say "my Muslim faith".
Liars irritate me, which is one reason I hate almost all politicians.
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I don't care if he's Muslim or not, but if he's lying about something like that I think that's a big issue. Of course, on the list of things he has lied about, this is probably way down the list in order of importance I guess.
I really don't see how a Christian could accidentally say "my Muslim faith".
Liars irritate me, which is one reason I hate almost all politicians.
I surely hope you don't become a detective.
Maybe he was talking about Islam and Christianity in the same speech and messed up?
zomg Bush was actually backed by the secretive Left Hand society to promote the agenda for Left handed people?
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Maybe he was talking about Islam and Christianity in the same speech and messed up?
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zomg Bush was actually backed by the secretive Left Hand society to promote the agenda for Left handed people?
Religion is a foundational thing, handedness is something you think about maybe twice in your entire life, if you don't include thinking about which hand you would rather use to backhand voltio8836 with.
I am totally kidding, I would never think about backhanding you. You complete me.
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I am disappointed in my Dallas brethren, this video was de-bunked a while ago. For all you lazy and incompetents, go back one page and read the explanation. It's not very tough to take something out of context and make it seem different.
Even if it was a completely legit statement I don't see how or why it would matter what faith he adheres to, had he been claiming Muslim from the beginning. But, had he, we all know he would never be a President. I'd prefer a closet atheist president, please.
1. Wahhabi Muslims are very small minority in Islam.
2. He only accidentally called himself a Muslim. It's common for someone of mixed heritage to make this mistake.
3. That 9/11 clip was such a cheap shot cliche it's no longer amusing. Wahhabi are a minority and do not represent Islam and if you think otherwise then Hitler is representative of all Christians.
4. Muslims are 1/4 the planet's population and also constitute millions of voters in America so he simply wants to get those votes.
I am disappointed in my Dallas brethren, this video was de-bunked a while ago. For all you lazy and incompetents, go back one page and read the explanation. It's not very tough to take something out of context and make it seem different.
Even if it was a completely legit statement I don't see how or why it would matter what faith he adheres to, had he been claiming Muslim from the beginning. But, had he, we all know he would never be a President. I'd prefer a closet atheist president, please.
This is seriously old news, and clearly a nothing more than a verbal blunder. I don't understand how anyone is still taking this seriously.
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If he were Muslim and had deceived the American people's trust in such a manner, it would matter immensely. There is no doubt his impeachment would begin immediately and be successful.
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This matters because he lied to the American people once again. He has spent millions and undergone a thorough deception to make it appear he is a christian when in reality he is a closet muslim.
Bill Maher said it best,
Obama went to church every sunday and he's a muslim.
John Mccain never went to church, and he's a christian.
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