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Old 11-10-2009, 02:19 PM   #61
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That last post had absolutely no point to it. Look him up if you want to. I really don't care. Who cares if u played against a guy who played for the Packers? That has nothing to do with cramping. Marking a guy in soccer and marking a guy in football are almost the same thing. The only difference is in soccer you have to mark him constantly. All im saying is it doesn't matter who ur marking. That has nothing to do with you cramping.
You are relating your performance in soccer, a rather nonviolent game, to that of Patrick Peterson's in what is one of the most violent games currently in America. Do you have any idea how stupid that argument sounds? People in soccer think that its just constant movement and everyone's always sprinting and running. That's bull****. Yeah you guys run around more than football players, but you guys also aren't running into 250lb'ers armed with 20lbs of thick, durable metal and plastic. And you aren't running and sprinting the entire game either. **** i used to play soccer too. For 6 years. Big whoop.

Congrats for supposedly "marking" a guy nobody's ever heard of just because he's on some national soccer team for teenagers.

The fact is, Patrick Peterson couldn't handle marking Julio and trying to run down Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson. Cramps on 3 seperate occasions, even after he had an IV in?

Pathetic conditioning. Perhaps if something like 6-10 other players weren't laying on the ground or left the game with various injuries, I'd take what you have to say more serious. But as it stands, there was a pattern going on Saturday. And that pattern was LSU players getting throttled till they quit. And good lord did they ever quit.

A decent argument...get one.
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So are you admitting that Peterson cramping had nothing to do with marking Jones and everything to do with poor conditioning? When did i ever say soccer was violent?
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So are you admitting that Peterson cramping had nothing to do with marking Jones and everything to do with poor conditioning?
It had to do with both.

Peterson wasn't able to deal with the physical play of Bama, having to constantly keep up with Julio, and ended up cramping due to his inferior conditioning.

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When did i ever say soccer was violent?
Jesus Christ do I need to hold your hand through this?

They're two different games, played on two different levels, hence why the argument is garbage.
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No you can compare them simply because both sports have a high level of activity. It would also be alot easier to follow this conversation if u didn't change ur argument with every post. You started questioning whether or not guys were a premier athlete n then in one post u started talking about the difference between football and soccer.
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It had to do with both.

Peterson wasn't able to deal with the physical play of Bama, having to constantly keep up with Julio, and ended up cramping due to his inferior conditioning.
That's not entirely true. He's been on IV to try and keep him hydrated since the Tulane game (he had the flu). I think we both know how that effects teams and it seems like every team in the SEC has battled the flu this year. Peterson and Scott were the only two that got it bad AFAIK. (He did NOT have the flu during the Bama game, just the week leading up to it)

He didn't cramp up against Georgia and Green is a much better WR than Julio is. Shut both of them down, too Even the best CB in the nation can suffer from cramps though.

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Pathetic conditioning. Perhaps if something like 6-10 other players weren't laying on the ground or left the game with various injuries, I'd take what you have to say more serious. But as it stands, there was a pattern going on Saturday. And that pattern was LSU players getting throttled till they quit. And good lord did they ever quit.

A decent argument...get one.
I think you're off here by a few miles. What does conditioning have to do with knee injuries, broken collar bone, and an ankle sprain? When exactly did they quit? The picture of them all laying down was for an injury time out, not a rest-break. Cause with ~6 minutes to go in the game every Bama fan watching the game was holding their breath and crossing their fingers.

Just a poor argument.
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That's not entirely true. He's been on IV to try and keep him hydrated since the Tulane game (he had the flu). I think we both know how that effects teams and it seems like every team in the SEC has battled the flu this year. Peterson and Scott were the only two that got it bad AFAIK. (He did NOT have the flu during the Bama game, just the week leading up to it)

He didn't cramp up against Georgia and Green is a much better WR than Julio is.
Nice Urban Meyer excuse dawg.

Green isn't nearly as physical as Julio, but IMO has better hands and is faster. No question.

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Shut both of them down, too Even the best CB in the nation can suffer from cramps though.
Julio made Peterson quit, and then made LSU pay big-time. Stop the crying about the most insignificant touch in the back to ever grace the game. /discussion.

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I think you're off here by a few miles. What does conditioning have to do with knee injuries, broken collar bone, and an ankle sprain?
Lifting is apart of conditioning, and there are studies upon studies that show lifting increases strength of connective tissue/muscle/what-have-you. The stronger your CT is, the less likely you are to be injured.

Maybe I should say "strength and conditioning" for some of you. But when I say "conditioning", resistance workouts are apart of that.

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When exactly did they quit? The picture of them all laying down was for an injury time out, not a rest-break.
That's speculation. How many actual injuries happened in that game? Are you telling me your team cheated, and faked injuries in a pussy way to obtain timeouts they used up because your players don't know their assignments?

So basically, LSU is just dishonest?

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Cause with ~6 minutes to go in the game every Bama fan watching the game was holding their breath and crossing their fingers.
lol okay. It was a close game, nobody's denying that, but only on the scoreboard. On the field, it was physical domination on Bama's part. I just hope you guys stay competitive after suffering so many injuries.

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Just a poor argument.
Riiiiiiiiight. lol

Your boys played a good game, but even you have to admit that Bama was just too physical for LSU in the end. I really don't see how you can't with all the injuries (real or fake).
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No you can compare them simply because both sports have a high level of activity.
Have you every played football?

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It would also be alot easier to follow this conversation if u didn't change ur argument with every post. You started questioning whether or not guys were a premier athlete n then in one post u started talking about the difference between football and soccer.
Why are you crying about my posts?

Learn to keep up. None of your arguments are worth a damn, so excuse me if I'm having a little fun. This is the internet, learn to argue multiple points at the same time. Soccer and football both have activity...obviously. But they are completely different intensities, durations, degrees of physical contact...they just don't relate well. Hence why you chiming about your glory days of "marking" some teenage kid in soccer don't really gel with the idea of two guys that weigh over 200lbs running, stopping, smashing, hitting, pushing, pulling, tackling, blocking, etc...Are you getting the idea yet?

And you have no idea how ridiculous it sounded to name some teenage soccer player a "premier athlete" and relate him to Julio Jones, or relate yourself to Patrick Peterson. You weren't doing the same thing Patrick Peterson was doing, and your little buddy wasn't doing the same thing Julio Jones was doing. The two of you, were trotting around, occasionally kicking a ball, sharing polite contact with each other, and sprinting once every so often. Just because the clock on a soccer game runs more constantly, doesn't mean soccer players are sprinting for 90-110 minutes. And if you're implying that you were chasing this guy around at full sprint for 110 minutes, excuse me while I lmao.

This game is over, LSU and Alabama both got away with **** they shouldn't have. LSU got shafted a pick, but at the same time, they were gifted a TD. Don't really see why you feel the need to keep arguing about this, it's not going to change the fact that Alabama physically dominated LSU, and sent them home with an "L."
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It sounds like ur getting a little offended by everything people are saying. IDK but it seems to me like u need to stop taking ur ****ty Alabama football team so seriously. Also u say i need to keep up. U need to learn how to argue a point that is actually relevant to what is being discussed. Everytime u had nothing to say about something u would bring up something completely irrelevant.

Also i never said i was Patrick Peterson and Mullins was Julio Jones. I only used it as an example. Secondly, considering this kid is the best player in the region his team was constantly giving him the ball meaning yes i was sprinting for almost the entire game. You played soccer till u were wat 11 years old. Every sport is easy before u hit puberty. U also need to go watch a high stakes soccer game there are a lot of cheap shots that get dealt, such as kicking ankles when no one is looking, trips, shoves from behind, etc. I'll put this in here again because u obviously did not read it the first time. Soccer is not as physical as football.

Yes i have played football. i was an all-district receiver my 9th-grade year. However i quit because all those kids walked around school like they were gods gift to this earth. thats not the type of team i wanted to be a part of.
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It sounds like ur getting a little offended by everything people are saying. IDK but it seems to me like u need to stop taking ur ****ty Alabama football team so seriously. Also u say i need to keep up. U need to learn how to argue a point that is actually relevant to what is being discussed. Everytime u had nothing to say about something u would bring up something completely irrelevant.
You mean like how you started talking about your soccer playing days and somehow those were supposed to be related to Julio Jones and Patrick Peterson?

Okay just checking.

lol @ getting offended.

But since you seem to take the internet so very serious, please number your arguments and I'll be sure to address them in an orderly fashion so you can understand (in other words, I'll hold your hand through the entire discussion).

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Also i never said i was Patrick Peterson and Mullins was Julio Jones. I only used it as an example.
You related yourself to Patrick Peterson, and "Mullins" to Julio Jones. It was a horrible, horrible example.

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Secondly, considering this kid is the best player in the region his team was constantly giving him the ball meaning yes i was sprinting for almost the entire game.
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You played soccer till u were wat 11 years old. Every sport is easy before u hit puberty.
Soccer is easy...period. And I played till I was 14. Thank you very much.

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U also need to go watch a high stakes soccer game there are a lot of cheap shots that get dealt, such as kicking ankles when no one is looking, trips, shoves from behind, etc.
I've watched plenty of international soccer games, mainly when there is no football to be watched. I have yet to see anything in soccer that resembles the constant violence that is present in football. If you are about to argue that a couple shoves or accident kicks to the shins are the equivalent of 22 guys smashing against each other, then you are more dense than I originally thought.

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I'll put this in here again because u obviously did not read it the first time. Soccer is not as physical as football.
Hence why relating a cornerback's job to that of a half back or a fullback is completely retarded. Cornerback's are taking on 300lb linemen and 220lb+ runningbacks in addition to trying to keep up with 180-200lb+ receivers. It's not even the same. All you have to do is keep up with the guy, and jab your feet around to get the ball away from them.

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Yes i have played football. i was an all-district receiver my 9th-grade year. However i quit because all those kids walked around school like they were gods gift to this earth. thats not the type of team i wanted to be a part of.
I lol'd. Damn you're entertaining.

You have yet to discuss the fact that LSU got a TD they shouldn't have, since the refs missed a blatant hold on the would be tackler.

I don't know...call me crazy, but IMO, missed calls that result in points are worse than those that simply result in change of posession.
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I'll agree that LSU got a TD on a hold when u agree that Julio got a TD on a block in the back. Ur the one flipping ur **** everytime someone says something against Bama. Ive played soccer and football n i must say i was much more tired after a soccer game than i was after a football game. Do you honestly not know how to read. I said football is more physical than soccer. Then you said the exact same thing i did except you added "than your more dense than i thought."
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I'll agree that LSU got a TD on a hold when u agree that Julio got a TD on a block in the back. Ur the one flipping ur **** everytime someone says something against Bama.
The hold was far more significant than the touch in the back. It doesn't take a genius or an ex-NFL pro-bowler to see that Carpenter whiffed on the block entirely.

It just takes a paranoid, bitter LSU fan.

and lol @ flipping my ****.

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Ive played soccer and football n i must say i was much more tired after a soccer game than i was after a football game.
You've never played on the line have you?

And in football, people don't just run around. You don't just get tired. You get beaten and bruised. That's why football teams play once a week, while soccer teams can play multiple games in a day, let alone a week. It's not about just getting "tired." In football, you get exhausted. If you were actually playing hard at all, you would've learned this.

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Do you honestly not know how to read. I said football is more physical than soccer. Then you said the exact same thing i did except you added "than your more dense than i thought."
Because you are still trying to relate soccer to football. The type of fatigue you experience in a soccer game is far different than that of a football game. You keep admitting football is more physical, yet you keep trying to prove that soccer is more physically taxing. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. As a person who's played both sports, you should realize this.

And just to add in, I grew up playing soccer against this guy for years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Savage

Here's the NFL player from HS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sitton

As a person who has played both soccer and football against "premier athletes," playing against Sitton was far more physically demanding that playing against Savage.
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Just for you goat...in the picture of Carpenter's supposed block in the back, you can't tell how hard Carpenter is contacting the defender. It could be significant, it could be insignificant. The angle doesn't tell us. In the video, the hit looks negligible.

There is really no denying that this, is a hold though.



Having played football, it takes a lot more than two hands grazing your back to throw one off balance. That is, assuming a division one safety has better balance than me. Just sayin.
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Nice Urban Meyer excuse dawg.
Aren't you majoring in some sort of fitness major or something? Fluid depletion is the #1 cause for cramps, and our staff did the best they could to keep him on the field. If this wasn't a huge game for LSU he would not even have played.

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Green isn't nearly as physical as Julio, but IMO has better hands and is faster. No question.
100% agree. Green is the better WR, but not nearly as physical. Julio should be on defense, haha.

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Julio made Peterson quit, and then made LSU pay big-time. Stop the crying about the most insignificant touch in the back to ever grace the game. /discussion.
At least you agree that it was a touch in the back (which is clipping), even if small. Much like the hold on LSUs TD run. It was more significant than the hold on LSUs TD run though. Julios TD came on like a 70 yard big play that should have came back. LSUs TD run came on an 8 yard scamper, if LSUs gets called back they get a FG at least.

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Lifting is apart of conditioning, and there are studies upon studies that show lifting increases strength of connective tissue/muscle/what-have-you. The stronger your CT is, the less likely you are to be injured.

Maybe I should say "strength and conditioning" for some of you. But when I say "conditioning", resistance workouts are apart of that.
Even the best athletes get sick. Considering that Alabamas S&C coach is a disciple of LSUs.. The 2 programs are very similar. In fact -- Saban tried to hire Moffitt while at Alabama.

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That's speculation. How many actual injuries happened in that game? Are you telling me your team cheated, and faked injuries in a pussy way to obtain timeouts they used up because your players don't know their assignments?

So basically, LSU is just dishonest?
Is that cheating? No more than using a spot of tape to mark a spot to kick a FG..

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lol okay. It was a close game, nobody's denying that, but only on the scoreboard. On the field, it was physical domination on Bama's part. I just hope you guys stay competitive after suffering so many injuries.
Only on the scoreboard.. the only thing that matters. Besides, knee and ankle injuries are extremely common and they occur in every day life, it takes very little stress to hurt those fragile areas. You're acting like Bama delivered a bone crushing hit that caused an injury, when in reality it was just a string of unfortunate events that really have nothing to do with conditioning at all. The only injury that is related to conditioning would be Peterson, and sick or not.. he should have kept hydrated.


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Your boys played a good game, but even you have to admit that Bama was just too physical for LSU in the end. I really don't see how you can't with all the injuries (real or fake).
LSU being banged up played a major role in the loss. Along with a few other variables.. it was just to much to overcome. The loss of Jefferson is what hurt the most, and I hope he learns from his mistake.
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Aren't you majoring in some sort of fitness major or something? Fluid depletion is the #1 cause for cramps, and our staff did the best they could to keep him on the field. If this wasn't a huge game for LSU he would not even have played.
The comment was a joke in reference to you blaming the flu.

It went over your head. My bad.

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100% agree. Green is the better WR, but not nearly as physical. Julio should be on defense, haha.
I like him where he's at.

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At least you agree that it was a touch in the back (which is clipping),
Clipping is at or below the waist.

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even if small.
"Small" is an understatement. Insignificant is more like it.

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Much like the hold on LSUs TD run. It was more significant than the hold on LSUs TD run though. Julios TD came on like a 70 yard big play that should have came back. LSUs TD run came on an 8 yard scamper, if LSUs gets called back they get a FG at least.
I'm talking the severity of the penalty in question. The block in the back only looks like a block in the back in the picture, and only at that angle. In the film, it's easy to see that Carpenter misses and his hands are just grazing Taylor. It in no way affected him, as seen by how he moves in the opposite direction of the push. It's simple physics. Taylor should've gone right if he was pushed. He goes LEFT. He took himself out of the play. Carpenter failed to block Taylor in anyway, shape, or form. LSU fans are getting incredibly nit-picky with this one. The two bad spots and the Peterson's catch I'll give you (in that Peterson caught the ball and his feet were in bounds, I still maintain that the ball was dead since Julio touched it though).

The hold is far more obvious than the block in the back, and if you watch the video it seems rather odd that Cody could get up on a player and suddenly isn't able to drag him down.

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Even the best athletes get sick. Considering that Alabamas S&C coach is a disciple of LSUs.. The 2 programs are very similar. In fact -- Saban tried to hire Moffitt while at Alabama.
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Is that cheating? No more than using a spot of tape to mark a spot to kick a FG..
only difference is, Bama kickers didn't know it was illegal. They picked it up from other SEC teams that were doing it in gamefilm. Faking injuries is obviously dishonest to anyone with common sense...or a conscience.

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Only on the scoreboard.. the only thing that matters. Besides, knee and ankle injuries are extremely common and they occur in every day life, it takes very little stress to hurt those fragile areas. You're acting like Bama delivered a bone crushing hit that caused an injury, when in reality it was just a string of unfortunate events that really have nothing to do with conditioning at all. The only injury that is related to conditioning would be Peterson, and sick or not.. he should have kept hydrated.
I agree the scoreboard is the only thing that matters, and thankfully, Bama beat LSU on the scoreboard. But stats are what usually tell the tale of how close (or not-so-close) a game usually is. Just looking at the numbers and the injuries, without looking at the score one would think Bama totally thrashed LSU physically.

And collar bones of 230lb "bruiser" runningbacks aren't easy to injure. Scott apparently had his shattered, but two undersized defensive backs no less. Once again, as a student of exercise science, I know that good strength and conditioning programs help to prevent injuries. Plain and simple. The sheer number of injuries in the game kind of support the theory that Bama was the more physically advanced team, since the only injury they suffered was Arenas, who came back in on the next defensive posession.

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LSU being banged up played a major role in the loss. Along with a few other variables.. it was just to much to overcome. The loss of Jefferson is what hurt the most, and I hope he learns from his mistake.
I agree that losing Jefferson hurt you the most, simply because Lee bleauxs.

But it's kind of hard to deny the number of times your players were being taken out for various injuries.
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I'm not trying to argue here but it doesn't matter how insignificant of a touch it was. If ur hands touch someone on the back and go in a pushing motion, its a block in the back, plain and simple. Returns get brought back for blocks just as insignificant as the block in question. If you think about it, why would Taylor just go stumbling if the block did not affect his balance?

The hold. That is obviously a hold. For some reason i thought u were talkn bout Jefferson's TD pass play. That is why i said there was no hold.
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One of the guys in the replay booth (there are 2) was the same guy from the UF-MSU game..
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I'm not trying to argue here but it doesn't matter how insignificant of a touch it was. If ur hands touch someone on the back and go in a pushing motion, its a block in the back, plain and simple.
It absolutely matters how significant the touch is, otherwise Peterson should've been called for PI every single time he went up against Julio, because he made contact each time. But you don't hear me bitching about Peterson touching Julio...because this is football.

Carpenter didn't PUSH Taylor. That's all you need to know.

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Returns get brought back for blocks just as insignificant as the block in question.
Then they are, wrongly so.

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If you think about it, why would Taylor just go stumbling if the block did not affect his balance?
He stumbled because he was ducking to get under Carpenter, he stepped left to anticipate Julio going behind his block, and Julio cut to Taylor's right. Have you ever been cut on? Of course you look off balance. You just got juked.

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The hold. That is obviously a hold. For some reason i thought u were talkn bout Jefferson's TD pass play. That is why i said there was no hold.
That hold was far more significant than Carpenter's hands grazing Taylor's back. The fact that Taylor was able to move against Carpenter's supposed push kind of kills the idea that Carpenter shoved him to a significant degree, whatsoever.
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One of the guys in the replay booth (there are 2) was the same guy from the UF-MSU game..
I heard these guys have monitor screens that are like 5-6 years behind the technology we all have at home.

Not sure why they have such ****ty equipment, but if you think about how few angles the replay official had to look at during the game, and factor in that he was viewing on a ****ty screen, I can understand how THAT play wasn't overturned. Really wasn't replay official's fault, he didn't have all the resources we do (for some dumbbass reason I don't understand). It was the fault of the field judge.
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Ud think with all the money the SEC makes off football they could afford to have a damn HD TV
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this is a huge part of the problem.
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this is a huge part of the problem.
I don't think the refs should be informed of what the call on the field was, either. I never liked that rule. I saw a post-game interview with Arenas.. and he mentioned the catch by Caddell in 2007 and how you just have to play through bad calls, I don't remember the controversy on that play.. I remember it being fairly obvious that it was an incompletion.

Arenas seems well-spoken and smart, I like him. He said that all this drama is for the fans and that the players can't let it get to them, they just have to play the game.
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I don't think the refs should be informed of what the call on the field was, either. I never liked that rule.
yeah, I don't see how that helps them any. All they need to know is what they're supposed to be looking for. They don't need to know what the field judge says. That makes people suspicious of whether or not refs are just trying to cover their own asses.
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yeah, I don't see how that helps them any. All they need to know is what they're supposed to be looking for. They don't need to know what the field judge says. That makes people suspicious of whether or not refs are just trying to cover their own asses.
I saw a post-game interview with Arenas.. and he mentioned the catch by Caddell in 2007 and how you just have to play through bad calls, I don't remember the controversy on that play.. I remember it being fairly obvious that it was an incompletion.. but anyways..

Arenas seems well-spoken and smart, I like him. He said that all this drama is for the fans and that the players can't let it get to them, they just have to play the game.
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I don't think the refs should be informed of what the call on the field was, either. I never liked that rule. I saw a post-game interview with Arenas.. and he mentioned the catch by Caddell in 2007 and how you just have to play through bad calls, I don't remember the controversy on that play.. I remember it being fairly obvious that it was an incompletion.

Arenas seems well-spoken and smart, I like him. He said that all this drama is for the fans and that the players can't let it get to them, they just have to play the game.
I remember that. I remember it could've gone either way, and the evidence didn't look like enough to overturn. That's the problem with those borderline calls though, it just depends on what each person thinks they sees. I thought his hands were under the ball, apparently the replay official disagreed.

This game has been notorious for bad calls. But the worst by far, IMO, is the pass interference by an LSU defender who shoves a Bama receiver down in the endzone to make an interception. That non-call had to be one of the worst no-call PI's in the history of the game.

Now that I think about it, SEC refs sucking ass at their job isn't something relatively new.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:17 PM   #86
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I remember that. I remember it could've gone either way, and the evidence didn't look like enough to overturn. That's the problem with those borderline calls though, it just depends on what each person thinks they sees. I thought his hands were under the ball, apparently the replay official disagreed.

This game has been notorious for bad calls. But the worst by far, IMO, is the pass interference by an LSU defender who shoves a Bama receiver down in the endzone to make an interception. That non-call had to be one of the worst no-call PI's in the history of the game.

Now that I think about it, SEC refs sucking ass at their job isn't something relatively new.
I agree. That was Webster IIRC. That call rivals the LSU-Auburn 2006 call lol. It was flagrant. On the call for Caddell it was the right call, the nose of the ball touched the ground. Uh oh.. lulz. This article is

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Although the replay official for the LSU-Alabama game was Gerald Hodges, the “replay supervisor” for the LSU-Alabama game was a man named Dick Burleson, according to Paul Finebaum. [He was also in the booth for the UF/MSU game]

Mr. Burleson’s official website:
http://www.dickburleson.com/index.html

According to Finebaum, Burleson was in the instant replay booth for the LSU-Alabama game, and has the ability to give "advice" about calls involving instant replay. Quoted directly from his website … “He is now an SEC staff advisor on officiating and evaluates officials performance each Saturday from the press box and assists with instant replay.” Also, another quote taken directly from his website … “He is a native of Alabama and was inducted into the Alabama High School Sports Hall of Fame.” Mr. Burleson is same man that wrote a book about his time as an official that was named after something his good friend Bear Bryant supposedly said to him during a game ... "You Better Be Right.” Mr. Burleson lives in Blount County, Alabama and often speaks at Alabama booster club meetings, as well as other speaking engagements around the country, and is compensated for those speaking engagements.

A photo taken directly from the front page of Mr. Burleson’s website shows Burleson with Finebaum, a very popular Alabama sports talk radio host:



Although most reasonable people would agree that there is no “conspiracy” in the SEC in regards to Alabama, most reasonable people would agree that Mr. Burleson should certainly not be involved in any football game involving the Crimson Tide due to his natural bias. But, nonetheless, he was.

What is the SEC’s response to all of this? … “No comment.”
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lol wow...

i'm sure that's why the SEC has won it the 3 years in a row and 4 out of the last 6 too right

gtfo
Yeh cuz we all know that nobody, especially the SEC, would try and pull money into their conference.

i'm just havin some fun anyway, glad to know there's at least someone who's a little too touchy about it.
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Yeh cuz we all know that nobody, especially the SEC, would try and pull money into their conference.

i'm just havin some fun anyway, glad to know there's at least someone who's a little too touchy about it.
You just accused the SEC of wrongly putting a contender into the NC.

Maybe we would believe that, if the SEC didn't constantly bitch-slap their opponent in the NC game. But they do.

So Please, stfu, and gtfo.

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You just accused the SEC of wrongly putting a contender into the NC.

Maybe we would believe that, if the SEC didn't constantly bitch-slap their opponent in the NC game. But they do.

So Please, stfu, and gtfo.

Thanks.
This. The quality of the SEC teams speaks for itself. We don't need any help.
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Ah plz lol.. just like in 95 when my gators bitch slapped nebraska.... must be a touchy subject though obviously with the reaction, but it was all in good fun.

Good luck in Atlanta.
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