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Heavy dumbbell press

Okay everybody, so yesterday I moved up to the 75s for flat dumbbell chest press. I managed to do 3 sets of 4 reps. I'm happy with that. But I found that my wrists kept popping in and made my grip weak.

Does anyone else have problems with the really heavy dumbbells causing this? I bought some wrist straps to wear on Thursday when I lift again. They feel good, just hoping they help but I don't want to OVER use them. But I'm afraid my wrists just can't handle that much weight.

I currently have terrible carpal tunnel but I refuse to have surgery so I think that the popping is going to be a problem and aggravate this more. Ugh.....

Thanks for the responses!
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:36 AM   #2
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Wow, that is one heavy weight you are lifting there! I can't help you here cause I can't lift anywhere near that. I can lift 12Kg's DB's but struggle to get the 14's up. If only I had a spotter who could who could give me the DB's once my arms are up in the straight position and I would be fine.

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Old 11-11-2009, 07:19 AM   #3
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I can't say for sure if this would work, but when I wrap my hands for hitting the heavy bag et. al., I add a couple of wraps around the wrist to keep it stable, You might consider the same.
It certainly keeps my wrists stable when I have an "off-strike" on the bag.


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Old 11-11-2009, 07:31 AM   #4
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Good idea there, Greyhair. I'd just be worried about the wrap effecting your grip. You might just want to make one or two passes around the hand and do the rest around your wrist.

Or you could switch to a barbell.
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Thats awesome!! Now can you get them up yourself or does someone have to hand them to you?
I can press 50's but my training partner has to habd them to me. My wrists feel like they are going to give also on my 3rd rep.
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Good idea there, Greyhair. I'd just be worried about the wrap effecting your grip. You might just want to make one or two passes around the hand and do the rest around your wrist.

Or you could switch to a barbell.
Yep, the wrapping in between the fingers could be a problem and too many turns around the hand could be a problem too. I suspect some experimentation would do the trick.
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Wow, that is one heavy weight you are lifting there!

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I'm bowing right next to you. My gosh, I can't even fathom lifting dumbbells that heavy. Many kudos to zombieang!

I've found that my wrists have curtailed a great deal of my lifting ability. My shoulders, chest (and especially my back), are relatively strong. But my wrists are pathetic and small, and my fingers/hands even worse than that. Good lifting gloves help, but only marginally, as my fingers can't maintain a heavy grip.

So I've switched to the barbell, also in conjunction with safety spotters (as I have no training partner).
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Okay everybody, so yesterday I moved up to the 75s for flat dumbbell chest press. I managed to do 3 sets of 4 reps. I'm happy with that. But I found that my wrists kept popping in and made my grip weak.

Does anyone else have problems with the really heavy dumbbells causing this? I bought some wrist straps to wear on Thursday when I lift again. They feel good, just hoping they help but I don't want to OVER use them. But I'm afraid my wrists just can't handle that much weight.

I currently have terrible carpal tunnel but I refuse to have surgery so I think that the popping is going to be a problem and aggravate this more. Ugh.....

Thanks for the responses!
I'm honestly going to say that the carpal tunnel will continue causing problems in your wrists as you continue pushing the heavier weights. (congrats btw I'm at the 65's now pushing for the those 70's!)

I would never tell you to lighten the load because I know you like going heavy. Have you thought about the surgery? I know a lot of people who have gotten it, had no problems with recovery and haven't had any problems since.

I would seriously think about having the surgery. This might be the best thing for you in the long run with lifting being such an important part of your lifestyle.
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I'm honestly going to say that the carpal tunnel will continue causing problems in your wrists as you continue pushing the heavier weights. (congrats btw I'm at the 65's now pushing for the those 70's!)

I would never tell you to lighten the load because I know you like going heavy. Have you thought about the surgery? I know a lot of people who have gotten it, had no problems with recovery and haven't had any problems since.

I would seriously think about having the surgery. This might be the best thing for you in the long run with lifting being such an important part of your lifestyle.
I just got back from vacation and want to thank you for all your replies!

I'm going to try to wrap up my wrists to see if it helps out. I can feel my wrists popping and it is very distracting.

I've been thinking about the surgery....just hate needles and yucky, yucky stitches! The barbell doesn't really bother my grip at all but it isn't as fun as lifting those dumbbells in my opinion anway.
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Great weight! Whhoohoo!!!

My wrists started to show weakness with 40# dbs. Now since it's a push once the weight is in position, grip isn't as important. Having your wrist go out is What I had to do was change where I was gripping the db. Instead of grabbing them in the center, I grab them closer to the inner weight. About a finger or two from the inner weight. Then during the pushing motion the db is a bit angled distributing the weight better across my palms. It puts less direct pressure on the wrists.
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Great weight! Whhoohoo!!!

My wrists started to show weakness with 40# dbs. Now since it's a push once the weight is in position, grip isn't as important. Having your wrist go out is What I had to do was change where I was gripping the db. Instead of grabbing them in the center, I grab them closer to the inner weight. About a finger or two from the inner weight. Then during the pushing motion the db is a bit angled distributing the weight better across my palms. It puts less direct pressure on the wrists.
I think you may be onto something there that is a great idea and I think it just may work!
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Okay everybody, so yesterday I moved up to the 75s for flat dumbbell chest press. I managed to do 3 sets of 4 reps. I'm happy with that. But I found that my wrists kept popping in and made my grip weak.

Does anyone else have problems with the really heavy dumbbells causing this? I bought some wrist straps to wear on Thursday when I lift again. They feel good, just hoping they help but I don't want to OVER use them. But I'm afraid my wrists just can't handle that much weight.

I currently have terrible carpal tunnel but I refuse to have surgery so I think that the popping is going to be a problem and aggravate this more. Ugh.....

Thanks for the responses!
I never had wrists problems when I was able to bench. It was my shoulder that always felt like it would pop out of joint.
I wonder whether those wrist supports will help with carpal tunnel. I have it myself. Very mildly so far, thank goodness!
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I just got back from vacation and want to thank you for all your replies!

I'm going to try to wrap up my wrists to see if it helps out. I can feel my wrists popping and it is very distracting.

I've been thinking about the surgery....just hate needles and yucky, yucky stitches! The barbell doesn't really bother my grip at all but it isn't as fun as lifting those dumbbells in my opinion anway.
Zombienang,

I'd love to here if wrapping works for you.
Since the purpose of the wrapping is to stabilize the wrists, I doubt that you need to wrap between your fingers. OTOH, I would put a turn or two around your hand. As you grab the DB, the wraps will tighten and certainly stabilize the metacarpal bones while the wrist wappings will stabilize the carpal bones. I'd go a little tighter around the wrist since there aren't any muscles there to expand and tighten the wraps during the movement. IMHO, not much different than wrapping knees during a DL or Squat.
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I'd love to here if wrapping works for you.
Since the purpose of the wrapping is to stabilize the wrists, I doubt that you need to wrap between your fingers. OTOH, I would put a turn or two around your hand. As you grab the DB, the wraps will tighten and certainly stabilize the metacarpal bones while the wrist wappings will stabilize the carpal bones. I'd go a little tighter around the wrist since there aren't any muscles there to expand and tighten the wraps during the movement. IMHO, not much different than wrapping knees during a DL or Squat.
Thank you for this! And everyone who responded....

So I did a little wrapping today and tried out the trick posted above to place hands close to the edge of the dumbbell grip. No popping and less stress on my wrists I managed a few extra reps. My grip still sucks but at least i don't have to worry about my wrists popping and me dropping those dumbbells on myself.
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Thank you for this! And everyone who responded....

So I did a little wrapping today and tried out the trick posted above to place hands close to the edge of the dumbbell grip. No popping and less stress on my wrists I managed a few extra reps. My grip still sucks but at least i don't have to worry about my wrists popping and me dropping those dumbbells on myself.
Excellent. Yup, I do the grip just like Freebird...makes a big difference!
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Excellent. Yup, I do the grip just like Freebird...makes a big difference!
I thought it was going to be uncomfortable with weight distribution but actually it isn't. Most of the weight rests on your forearm for these huge dumbbells anyway and was a bit easier to manage.
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I thought it was going to be uncomfortable with weight distribution but actually it isn't. Most of the weight rests on your forearm for these huge dumbbells anyway and was a bit easier to manage.
Exactly.^^
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Exactly.^^
How are those 70s coming along?

I keep looking at those 125s thinking someday, someday I'll move those lol
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I think you may be onto something there that is a great idea and I think it just may work!
Definitely works... takes alot of strain off the wrists... and you'll find the outer edge of the DB might touch your forearm..
I've had people tell me I'm doing things wrong by doing that but it really helps and doesn't take the weight off your chest so...
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How are those 70s coming along?

I keep looking at those 125s thinking someday, someday I'll move those lol
Well they're looking good on the rack...F******! I'll get them soon...
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50's are no joke...nice work there!!
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Definitely works... takes alot of strain off the wrists... and you'll find the outer edge of the DB might touch your forearm..
I've had people tell me I'm doing things wrong by doing that but it really helps and doesn't take the weight off your chest so...
Yep it is resting on my forearm and it isn't making my wrists ache alot so I'm going to keep doing it this way.
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You'll get em, you'll get em. Even if you're only getting 1 crappy rep out, the next time the rep will be easier and finally you'll be blowing them away. I try to up the weight if I can do 8 to 10 comfortably, even if I only get 2 reps I find I can move up quicker just by doing the few reps I can manage.
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50's are no joke...nice work there!!
Heck yeah! Shoot the women at my gym don't even try to go past the 20s. GOOD JOB!!! The 50s are still dayum heavy, some of the guys I see struggle with those so you're doing better than alot of men! Keep it up!
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Heck yeah! Shoot the women at my gym don't even try to go past the 20s. GOOD JOB!!! The 50s are still dayum heavy, some of the guys I see struggle with those so you're doing better than alot of men! Keep it up!
So true! I think if you're doing anything over 20s you're doing pretty good! I don't have access to the really heavy dbs at home, but back when I was going to the gym the highest I got was 40lbs and those things were heavy so yeah don't say you're ONLY doing 50 because you are moving some weight!!!!

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Do you have help lifting them to the starting position?
I can do 50's but need them handed to me.
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