anxiety atack (srs)

[TNetz]

So, in other words, your trigger is women. Not uncommon. This was my trigger as well. Then I was put on meds and ended up marrying her.

Based on your description I'd say leave her. If she know's how all of this effects you physically and her response is "quit laying a guilt trip on me" than she's not worth the effort it takes to hold the phone to your ear. Just my opinion.

Find somebody that cares about you.

[chickeneater]

Originally Posted by TNetz

So, in other words, your trigger is women. Not uncommon. This was my trigger as well. Then I was put on meds and ended up marrying her.

Based on your description I'd say leave her. If she know's how all of this effects you physically and her response is "quit laying a guilt trip on me" than she's not worth the effort it takes to hold the phone to your ear. Just my opinion.

Find somebody that cares about you.

this^

or, as sting says if you love her set her free...lol

In other words, let go of the situation for a few days. Feel your anger, and let it be..

Are you stressing cause you want to run into "fix it mode"? What if there was nothing to fix? What if everything was fine just the way it is? How would you feel? Probably relaxed.

You're 22, reeeeeeeeelax, she aint goin no where, and if she is, again your'e 22!

Let go, everything is fine.

For years I would scream like mad cause I could'nt control the situation, it made everything worse. Eventually I learned to sit with my anger and let it be. Low and behold the wifey now comes around after a bit all compassionitely and ponders if I'm mad at her. I just say everthings fine, I'm sure I'll be in a better mood later.

Then she wont stop trying to comfort me and gets all sexy of all things. It's the oddest paradox. If it did'nt happen to me I'd think this advice is crazy.

I think you hit it on the head with "control". You're angry inside, and anger comes from not being able to control a situation. If you learned to supress your anger thru childhood, then it will manifest as psychosomatic pain, or in your case anxiety. Relax, feel your anger. Don't think you have to fix anything, F-ck everything and everyone attitude for a little while. You don't have to break anything either. However, you may find the feeling of being angry at your girlfriend pretty damn good and liberating. And it may create some passion between you and her. Don't fake it, feel for it, it will be there, and don't tell her your'e trying something new, just do it.

The oppositte of unhappiness isn't superhappiness. You don't have to walk around with a smile and please others to be happy.

What if? Just what if you learned to feel your anger and not rush into panic fix it mode? Your woman might see you as more confident w/out the puss phone calls and clingyness and guilt trips. Anger is a natural emotion like happiness, if you suppress it you will have health issues.

[jestdoit86]

touche guys. I was thinking of showing her this thread to get her to see how she affects me but I'm not gonna waste my time with it. I talked to her last night and she just gave me a whole bunch of bull about why she was upset so I'm just gonna slowly seperate myself emotionally from her. But that's a whole nother bag of worms. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to control my anxiety and get back on the horse so things like this don't effect me as much anymore. All this advice is great, I will try and express my anger more rather than hold it in. Whoever recommended that book earlier I am at the library checking it out right now. Hopefully it helps. Thanks guys

Edit: couldn't find that book at this library. Any other literature recommendations?

[chickeneater]

http://www.amazon.com/Hope-Help-Your.../dp/0451167228


your reference desk can order it from another library, ask them.

[1Fif]

I have depression/anxiety.

Jogging usually eases my mind... N sometimes gives me a moment of clarity when I accomplish something new... where The depression and anxiousness all seem insignificant compared to what I just did.

[jestdoit86]

Originally Posted by 1Fif

I have depression/anxiety.

Jogging usually eases my mind... N sometimes gives me a moment of clarity when I accomplish something new... where The depression and anxiousness all seem insignificant compared to what I just did.

Cool, I don't usually do a whole lot of cardio, just heavy lifting. I'll try changing it up a little bit. As far as the book, they didn't have it in the entire capital area library circuit so i may just order from Amazon since it seems they have it there. For now I'm reading a couple others that I checked out on anxiety, I'll let you know how helpful they prove to be. I had a talk with the girl in question the other night which eased my anxiety. Although I know it is a short term solution to a long term problem. I need to minimize the effect she has on my life, which unfortunately is a little more complicated than just breaking up with her. Also, my father pointed out something else that I hadn't thought of before. He noticed that my anxiety attacks are connected to health issues. I'm thinking when I get sick my body kind of goes into shock and perhaps goes into fight or flight syndrome. For instance the day before I started showing full blown sypmtoms I started getting very anxious and I couldn't figure out why. About 10 hrs later I was sick as a dog. Do you think this is a coincidence? Has anyone else experienced anything else like that?

[Gr3g_Lycan]

Originally Posted by zjpj

Paxil

Buspirone would be a good treatment if its anxiety & not depression.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buspirone

Paxil has more side effects.

[jjsafari]

dont take anything. no supplements and no medication. those things mess you up worse. you need to center yourself. and cut out caffiene and MSG

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by jestdoit86

Cool, I don't usually do a whole lot of cardio, just heavy lifting. I'll try changing it up a little bit. As far as the book, they didn't have it in the entire capital area library circuit so i may just order from Amazon since it seems they have it there. For now I'm reading a couple others that I checked out on anxiety, I'll let you know how helpful they prove to be. I had a talk with the girl in question the other night which eased my anxiety. Although I know it is a short term solution to a long term problem. I need to minimize the effect she has on my life, which unfortunately is a little more complicated than just breaking up with her. Also, my father pointed out something else that I hadn't thought of before. He noticed that my anxiety attacks are connected to health issues. I'm thinking when I get sick my body kind of goes into shock and perhaps goes into fight or flight syndrome. For instance the day before I started showing full blown sypmtoms I started getting very anxious and I couldn't figure out why. About 10 hrs later I was sick as a dog. Do you think this is a coincidence? Has anyone else experienced anything else like that?

Do you happen to take Nyquil when you're sick? I only ask because it seems to have a bad effect on me. I remember one time, before meds, I took some and the next day I had my only ever serious anxiety attack. I believe it was 100% due to the Nyquil. I've taken small amounts since then and I felt like it effected me then too. I don't touch the stuff now. Just a thought.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by jjsafari

dont take anything. no supplements and no medication. those things mess you up worse. you need to center yourself. and cut out caffiene and MSG

This is true in theory. Cutting out stimulants, caffiene, nicotine, is supposed to help. I tried telling that to my mom a long time ago. It might make it more manageable.

[chickeneater]

at my worst anxiety level, I was drinking 1/4 cup a day in the morning to just ward off the withdrawal headaches. If your'e in the throws of anxiety, then caffine will hamper healing for sure.

Nowadays, I'm up to 2-3 cups a day, and I feel great after drinking it, instead of jittery. Once the disorder has been treated and healed, you can return to a normal life of normal coffee driking and alcohol use. It's not overnight, and I emphasize the word "normal".

Alot of people trace the severity of their symptoms to abuse of coffee or alcohol only to swear off either or both because logic states they are the cause. Problem is habits can't be stopped, only replaced. The quitting of them without something to fill the void can build an altar to them, the panacea that total abstinence will solve some problem.

Once again the deeper cause is hidden and the symptoms continue or get worse.

Where was I?.......babbling...out.

[jestdoit86]

Originally Posted by chickeneater

at my worst anxiety level, I was drinking 1/4 cup a day in the morning to just ward off the withdrawal headaches. If your'e in the throws of anxiety, then caffine will hamper healing for sure.

Nowadays, I'm up to 2-3 cups a day, and I feel great after drinking it, instead of jittery. Once the disorder has been treated and healed, you can return to a normal life of normal coffee driking and alcohol use. It's not overnight, and I emphasize the word "normal".

Alot of people trace the severity of their symptoms to abuse of coffee or alcohol only to swear off either or both because logic states they are the cause. Problem is habits can't be stopped, only replaced. The quitting of them without something to fill the void can build an altar to them, the panacea that total abstinence will solve some problem.

Once again the deeper cause is hidden and the symptoms continue or get worse.

Where was I?.......babbling...out.

While I can agree with the thinking behind this no matter how much I am healed, large amounts of caffeine has always, and will always, make me jittery and anxious. I have mountain dew and tea but that's about the extent of my caffeine intake. I try to avoid supplements with a lot of it.

As to MSG, I am allergic to it, so I don't think it will me too hard to find motivation to not eat that.... migranes and vomiting seems to work fine for a kick in the butt

The nyquil... interesting idea. If it's the diphenahydramine (benadryl) in nyquil that caused you the problems I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that does not trigger anxiety in me. I take a small amount to sleep every night for the past several years ( you are right about addictions, we all have them. Replacing them just creates others) If anything the diphenihydramine mellows me out and calms me. If it's something else in the nyquil i would be interested in hearing more.

As for the girl situation, I just ended things with her tonight. But now there is a hole I need to fill with other things. I will try to add more exercising and hobbies and perhaps church to keep my brain occupied and I hope I can stay strong enough not to go back to her.

the books I ordered came in today and I will start in on them as soon as possible. One is " Anxiety control for idiots"

Was able to eat better today and got a full workout in without getting exhausted. That's a good sing. Hopefully I can keep it up besides having the breakup on my shoulders. Thanks for all the advice and help on this. Really has helped me a lot as I continue to work through this.

[TNetz]

Sometimes if it's not right it's not right. Relationships can be tough but they shouldn't require this much work IMO. I think you made the right choice for what it's worth.

I don't have anymore insight to the Nyquil thing. It just seems to mess with my breathing for some reason. I think it has something to do with the "A" ingredient. I can't remember what it's called right now .

"Know your self and seek self improvement". I remember that quote from the Army. It applies to everything I do and it kind of takes the pity (for the lack of a better word) out of things for me. Knowing myself means I do not lie to myself and I recognize the things wrong with me, without apprehension. Seeking self improvement allows me to fix the problem.

You're on your way, keep up the good work. My advice would still be to go talk to someone. Maybe look into getting health insurance.

[jestdoit86]

I couldn't agree more. I am learning a lot about my adult body and mind and as I continue to do so it helps me deal with my faults much more effectively and allow others to do the same. I am accepting and embracing my weaknesses while using my strengths to get me through them

I think in the end whoever said it was a control issue hit it on the nose. The breakup didn't effect me nearly as much as I thought it would because that was my decision and under my terms. What drove me batty was her not picking up the phone took control away from me. The more I called and persisted, the worse things got.... so it was her in charge. My mom is a classic control freak and has similar ( and worse) issues. I am quick to deny any characteristics that I share with my mother ( as a kid I always thought of her as a nutcase). But again, I am accepting that I am not perfect.

So assessing the situation in retrospect, it was the lack of sleep and sickness that set me up and made me vulnerable then the girl issues that served as the catalyst and sent me into a tailspin. I understand what happened, now just need to take steps to prevent it from happening again.

[TNetz]

Awesome. I'm the same way toward my father. I've been recognizing those traits and fixing them for a long time now.

It's sort of relieving in a way. You sure can't choose family .

Take care.