H-Drol stack? Input?

[Guy187]

I will be starting an H-Drol stack here in a few weeks, and have mostly everything for the stack. Im wondering if there is anything else people have stacked with H-Drol for maximum results? Ill post a clip from my log of what I have read so I dont have to retype it all...

First off, a little bit of stats about me. I have been lifting natural, with the exception of creatine and a few fat burners, for about 2 years now. Im 5"9, and just coming off of a cut. I am right now, at 172.5lbs. I will be running this cycle as a cut/recomp and strength increase. I will be eating extremely clean, taking in about 1800 calories daily, and about 225-240 grams of protein; with middle to low carbs. I will be cycling off of creatine, and only taking these other supps:

CL Orange Triad
CL White Flood
ON 100% Whey
ON 100% Casein
Taurine if needed
Horny Goat Weed if needed

I will be pre-loading the cycle for a week with CEL Cycle Assist at 8 a day, 4 pre-breakfast, and 4 pre-dinner; all on empty stomach. I will then begin my cycle as follows:

Cycle:
CEL H-Drol 50/75/75/75/75/100
CEL Cycle Assist: 8/8/8/8/8/8

I will be dosing these pre-breakfast/workout, and pre-dinner. I will be taking 1 25mg early, then 1 25mg late at the 50mg dose. Then with the 75mg dose, I will be taking 2 25mg's early, and 1 25 mg late.

PCT:
I-Force Reversitol 3/2/2/1
Bioforge 4/4/4/4/4/4
Lean Xtreme 0/0/3/3/3/3
CEL PCT Assist 4/4/4/4/4/4
CL GreenMAG 5g a day

[carcaz13]

Looks clean bro, good luck.

[Guy187]

Thanks man. But my original question was, is there something else to stack with h drol for maximum results. Like another ph to stack with it, while still utilizing my support and pct?

[carcaz13]

Originally Posted by Guy187

Thanks man. But my original question was, is there something else to stack with h drol for maximum results. Like another ph to stack with it, while still utilizing my support and pct?

It depends, have you ran anyother ph's before? If you haven't I'd stick a solo H-Drol run, just to wet your feet. If you have some experience you could add something non-methly, like X-Tren, although your pct would need an upgrade for such a run.

I've been following this Halo and Tren log, its well thought out...give it a look.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120099801

[Guy187]

I was seeing others add xtren. At what dosages would it be run at with my cycle? Can I keep my hdrol dosages? What should I change for pct? Will I need anything else on hand for sides?

[taze13]

No need to go over 75 at that weight.

Do it 75/75/75/75/75/75.

[Guy187]

I was asking about adding in the xtren and the dosages there.

[carcaz13]

Originally Posted by Guy187

I was asking about adding in the xtren and the dosages there.

I would start it out at 60/90/90/90 for a beginer, although some people add on anther 2 weeks at 90mg. You would deff need some type of serm, either nolvadex or clomid. Don't kid your self, if you havn't had much experience with steroids, stick to the H-Drol and then move on to stacking once you have some more experience.

[Guy187]

Originally Posted by carcaz13

I would start it out at 60/90/90/90 for a beginer, although some people add on anther 2 weeks at 90mg. You would deff need some type of serm, either nolvadex or clomid. Don't kid your self, if you havn't had much experience with steroids, stick to the H-Drol and then move on to stacking once you have some more experience.

So I can run H-Drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
and X-Tren at 30/60/60/60

And I can keep my current PCT, but get nolvadex just in case to have on hand?

[Guy187]

Originally Posted by Guy187

So I can run H-Drol 50/75/75/75/75/75
and X-Tren at 30/60/60/60

And I can keep my current PCT, but get nolvadex just in case to have on hand?

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[nath123]

no you HAVE to use nolva if your using h-drol and x-tren together. And don't use whiteflood while on cycle save it for pct u wont need it.

[ericpdell2]

if this is your first run with PH's your going to see results as long as your diet and training are on point... Id wait on the tren and save that for sometime in the future... You will be amazed and what your going to see on just the hdrol itself...IMO just do the hdrol and yes lose the whiteflood ur not going to need that... ur pumps will be fine and strength gains should be good.... dont waste it.....

[Guy187]

Originally Posted by ericpdell2

if this is your first run with PH's your going to see results as long as your diet and training are on point... Id wait on the tren and save that for sometime in the future... You will be amazed and what your going to see on just the hdrol itself...IMO just do the hdrol and yes lose the whiteflood ur not going to need that... ur pumps will be fine and strength gains should be good.... dont waste it.....

I will be amazing at the results of H-Drol alone just on a cut/recomp?

[Mr_OG]

Originally Posted by nath123

no you HAVE to use nolva if your using h-drol and x-tren together. And don't use whiteflood while on cycle save it for pct u wont need it.

ok you don't NEED to use nolva. Reversitol is fine, along with the rest of your PCT OP. Nolva on hand. Stop parroting everything you hear.

EDIT: OP, why go over 75? At your weight, 100 is a lil much dontuthink

[nath123]

His stacking two ph's together and running it for 8 weeks he going to be shut down. Better to be on the safe said use A serm. if you say should have on hand most people wont bother.

[Mr_OG]

Originally Posted by nath123

His stacking two ph's together and running it for 8 weeks he going to be shut down. Better to be on the safe said use A serm. if you say should have on hand most people wont bother.

if most ppl won't bother, that's their fault and lack of responsibility. Sorry didn't see him stacking two ph's.

Sidenote, between the two SERMs OP, use clomid. Best used for a cycle with tren in it, plus it restarts the HPTA better.

[Guy187]

What does the dosage look like for clomid? Should I keep the others I have listed during my pct also?

[Guy187]

Originally Posted by Guy187

What does the dosage look like for clomid? Should I keep the others I have listed during my pct also?

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