Transition from getting number to date #1

[bdaswat]

My game is tight for the most part, except one very beta attribute. After I get the number. I hate texting to begin with, and I'm not big into "making jokes" and being sarcastic. That's not why I got their number to begin with, but btchs memory is the short.

Notice where the weak chain is:

Sucess Rates
A. Approach 60%
B. Good conversation started 88%
C. Get phone number 82%
D. pre-asking out texts (like hey, how was ur week) 70%
E. Asking her out txt 25% <<<< See where my Problem is <<
F. Sealing the deal on the date 80%

What do you guys do to make the transition from E. to F. ? Just be a sarcastic ahole through a million texts? Asking once? Just call?

[b0ngman]

why dont you ask her out during the final stages of the initial conversation... say "Can I get your # SO we can meet up and go out sometime?" then all you have to do is text "We are going out Thursday hoe I got us tickets to the sea aqaurium they are going to let us pet the sea lions"

[2 D]

What the poster above me said.

Throw it out there right away, this way there is no confusion what so ever and you come off as confident (provided you don't wimper while asking her out). It can put some girls/women off if they're not used to it, but some will love it.

Just be direct that you want to take her out, don't say hang out, that is f***ing beta as sh!t. Say "I'd like to take you out sometime", or something along those lines while you're getting her number.

That will make the texting/calling after this slightly easier and there won't be any confusion, she'll be expecting a date rather than a get-together if you will.

[bdaswat]

damn, that's good sht! I see what you mean with the beta response (the one I usually use too) of "lets hang out sometime". This might do the trick, thanks Brahs.


Think I should just call in my first point of contact too? couple times i've tried that, and they don't answer, and I think it's beta to leave a message, so I don't.

[2 D]

Wrong man, calling takes a LOT more guts.

Leaving a message is completely acceptable too if she doesn't answer. In fact IMO it's so much easier and extremely beta to call her and NOT leave a voicemail if she isn't around.

However keep the voicemail short, simple and direct.

Ex:

"Hi (name), it's (your name here) from (place/area you met at). I was hoping to catch you to see if you wanted to go out for (drinks, coffee, walk etc.). Call me back."

Something along those lines. At this point if you deliver that voicemail w/confidence it should be simple after that and she'll likely be impressed w/your confidence (don't be arrogant, there is a difference).

[InclineDBPresss]

Messages arent hard, I usually spend 10 minutes thinking of a really good text if its the first one of the day then the conversation flows after that

I think you have a prob with the "asking out" text because you are not sure waht you want to do by the time it comes up.

[bdaswat]

Originally Posted by InclineDBPresss

Messages arent hard, I usually spend 10 minutes thinking of a really good text if its the first one of the day then the conversation flows after that

I think you have a prob with the "asking out" text because you are not sure waht you want to do by the time it comes up.

also probably true. my meatheadness gets in the way of me i guess sometimes.

[Fused]

Don't ask a chick out with a text message. That will make you look weak as hell. Just call her and tell her (don't ask) that you should get together on such and such day. Yes, avoid the term "hang out" as you don't want her to get the wrong idea. Keep the conversation short and simple, no longer than 5 minutes. I also don't recommend leaving a voicemail until you have made initial contact over the phone.

[JoshSP1985]

Originally Posted by Fused

Don't ask a chick out with a text message. That will make you look weak as hell. Just call her and tell her (don't ask) that you should get together on such and such day. Yes, avoid the term "hang out" as you don't want her to get the wrong idea. Keep the conversation short and simple, no longer than 5 minutes. I also don't recommend leaving a voicemail until you have made initial contact over the phone.

Agree with everything but I'm not sure about the voicemail part.

If you call and don't leave one she might think you're a pussy that's to scared to leave a VM.

What exactly is the downside to leaving a VM if you keep it short and to the point?

[TspongT]

Im a big fan on texting the day after you get the number whether it be a street pickup, club, bar anything. Using cock/funny, or witty conversation starters, which lead into a small rapport building conversationg thats fairly short. Ending it by telling her ur busy or w.e and ur gonna call her sometime this week to do something, simple as that. If you did semi welll in the small convo, and she was already attracted to you after the pick up, then she will have you on her mind wondering when you are gonna call. Call her a few days later letting her kno when you are free and plan something right there. The text/call combo has worked really well for me. good luck man

[Fused]

Originally Posted by JoshSP1985

Agree with everything but I'm not sure about the voicemail part.

If you call and don't leave one she might think you're a pussy that's to scared to leave a VM.

What exactly is the downside to leaving a VM if you keep it short and to the point?

I am not a fan of using voicemail initially because it gives her control over the interaction. She gave out her number to you and is eagerly waiting for your call. You have total control in this situation. As soon as you leave a "call me back" type message you are putting the woman in control. A lot of women will be turned off by that. You are not taking charge of the interaction which makes you look weak. Yes, you have to play these silly ass games early on despite what anyone else says.

[JoshSP1985]

Originally Posted by Fused

I am not a fan of using voicemail initially because it gives her control over the interaction. She gave out her number to you and is eagerly waiting for your call. You have total control in this situation. As soon as you leave a "call me back" type message you are putting the woman in control. A lot of women will be turned off by that. You are not taking charge of the interaction which makes you look weak. Yes, you have to play these silly ass games early on despite what anyone else says.

What if in your message you say something like I'll call you tomorrow to set a time?

[Fused]

Originally Posted by JoshSP1985

What if in your message you say something like I'll call you tomorrow to set a time?

No that is a very bad thing to say. You are subconsciously seeking her validation or approval. It is like saying "pretty please can I set up a time with you tomorrow so you can spend time with me"? NEVER tell a woman when you are going to call her. Let her build up anticipation for your call. Keep the mystery there as long as you can. You want her to think you are the prize to be won, not her.

[M.J.A_forever]

Originally Posted by TspongT

Im a big fan on texting the day after you get the number whether it be a street pickup, club, bar anything. Using cock/funny, or witty conversation starters, which lead into a small rapport building conversationg thats fairly short. Ending it by telling her ur busy or w.e and ur gonna call her sometime this week to do something, simple as that. If you did semi welll in the small convo, and she was already attracted to you after the pick up, then she will have you on her mind wondering when you are gonna call. Call her a few days later letting her kno when you are free and plan something right there. The text/call combo has worked really well for me. good luck man

so are u telling him to call or text?.....nobody give a flying f*uk about how big a fan u are off texting.....u witty midget....goddamn u

will rep on recharge lol

[TspongT]

Originally Posted by M.J.A_forever

so are u telling him to call or text?.....nobody give a flying f*uk about how big a fan u are off texting.....u witty midget....goddamn u

will rep on recharge lol

Lmao, ffffuuuuuu

[CelticBhoy]

Originally Posted by bdaswat

My game is tight for the most part, except one very beta attribute. After I get the number. I hate texting to begin with, and I'm not big into "making jokes" and being sarcastic. That's not why I got their number to begin with, but btchs memory is the short.

Here's where I'll start the advice:

Lay off the goddamn alpha/beta bull**** terminology. It is utterly retarded and it sounds so ridiculous. The whole alpha/beta mentality - as a whole - is ultimately retarded.

Originally Posted by bdaswat

Notice where the weak chain is:

Sucess Rates
A. Approach 60%
B. Good conversation started 88%
C. Get phone number 82%
D. pre-asking out texts (like hey, how was ur week) 70%
E. Asking her out txt 25% <<<< See where my Problem is <<
F. Sealing the deal on the date 80%

What do you guys do to make the transition from E. to F. ? Just be a sarcastic ahole through a million texts? Asking once? Just call?

Well first I see you have some pretty awesome statistics going on here

As for your transition to E to F, here's an interesting idea. If you're texting success rate is low (as shown with a 25% successful margin):...

Call her or ask her out in person. Texting someone out on a date reeks of insecurities, it gives them every loophole in the world to avoid it if necessary, and it's improper. Be confident, don't stammer, hesitate, and be like "Excuse me...um...if you're not busy...would you....uh..." Just say it.

Be yourself and be confident. Here is my thoughts: If you're trying to get with a girl, enjoy the game. What's the game? The game of trying to get her. The texting, conversations, hang outs, feeling(s) of wanting her, etc. If you get her...awesome. If not? Big deal! Because the entire time you're chasing her, you should be enjoying it and savoring the chase.

[Patrick-Bateman]

Originally Posted by bdaswat

My game is tight for the most part, except one very beta attribute. After I get the number. I hate texting to begin with, and I'm not big into "making jokes" and being sarcastic. That's not why I got their number to begin with, but btchs memory is the short.

Notice where the weak chain is:

Sucess Rates
A. Approach 60%
B. Good conversation started 88%
C. Get phone number 82%
D. pre-asking out texts (like hey, how was ur week) 70%
E. Asking her out txt 25% <<<< See where my Problem is <<
F. Sealing the deal on the date 80%

What do you guys do to make the transition from E. to F. ? Just be a sarcastic ahole through a million texts? Asking once? Just call?

How the **** you so high on A and C? You telling me that 6 out 10 girls you randomly approach will stay, talk, and then most will give you there number?

What's the secret, seriously, or are you just good looking or something

[Sach]

god you geeks will never learn. You CANNOT quantify getting laid. It's based on so many subjective factors that you will never be able to create a cohesive plan or strategy.

If the girl likes you, she'll want to hang out. Enough said. There isn't a codeword or a secret time of day to get her interested.

The best strategy is to get her to agree to hang out or go to a movie or whatever the **** you consider a date to be, before you get her number. That way the only phone conversation needed is setting up a time and place.

[megaman77]

Originally Posted by 2 D

What the poster above me said.

Throw it out there right away, this way there is no confusion what so ever and you come off as confident (provided you don't wimper while asking her out). It can put some girls/women off if they're not used to it, but some will love it.

Just be direct that you want to take her out, don't say hang out, that is f***ing beta as sh!t. Say "I'd like to take you out sometime", or something along those lines while you're getting her number.

That will make the texting/calling after this slightly easier and there won't be any confusion, she'll be expecting a date rather than a get-together if you will.

thisthisthis

send one message/call once. no jokes. no games. no bull****. straight to the point.

[VVSKing]

Originally Posted by Sach

god you geeks will never learn. You CANNOT quantify getting laid. It's based on so many subjective factors that you will never be able to create a cohesive plan or strategy.

If the girl likes you, she'll want to hang out. Enough said. There isn't a codeword or a secret time of day to get her interested.

The best strategy is to get her to agree to hang out or go to a movie or whatever the **** you consider a date to be, before you get her number. That way the only phone conversation needed is setting up a time and place.

This.

[CellTechBrahs]

Originally Posted by b0ngman

why dont you ask her out during the final stages of the initial conversation... say "Can I get your # SO we can meet up and go out sometime?" then all you have to do is text "We are going out Thursday hoe I got us tickets to the sea aqaurium they are going to let us pet the sea lions"

This.