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Old 11-09-2009, 02:53 AM   #31
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It's been what? 2 days since I admitted it to myself. After the initial fear of hell passed, since i realized it doesn't exist, it feels good. It's like my mind blew open. Science is no longer my enemy. I always had a love for science, but my religion kept it at bay. It's like I'm a sponge now. Taking in all the information I used to lament. Feels good man, feels good.
gjdm. and if you ever do decide to go back to your faith, you'll be one of the few who isn't a complete idiot parroting dumb **** out of fear.

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Old 11-09-2009, 04:59 AM   #33
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Think about how far back it set the development of man.



Do you know about Plato, Anaximander, Aristotle etc? These guys existed hundreds of years before Jesus, and they knew the Earth was round. They tried to understand the world in terms of causal mechanisms. They pondered about epistemology and innate knowledge. They theorised about the universe being boundless and life forming in temporary abberations of chaos. They made enormous leaps and strides in human knowledge


Yet later on, Jesus was born and 'God did it' became the central explanation for everything for the next 500 years. And hey, if anyone offers a rational, objective opinion to how the universe works, lets stick them in a boiling cauldron or invent grotesque spiky corkscrew things to stick up their bums.
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well done, you've finally opened your mind brah.

and if you're wrong, you'll be with the rest of the misc in hell partying it up!
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:31 AM   #35
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Your old thread saying basically the same thing isn't good enough? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120198501

You had to make 2 threads about this?
Did you forget you made a thread about this?
that was a thread basically telling people he was questioning his faith and asking people to convince him either way. This thread is about what conclusion he came to.
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It's been what? 2 days since I admitted it to myself. After the initial fear of hell passed, since i realized it doesn't exist, it feels good. It's like my mind blew open. Science is no longer my enemy. I always had a love for science, but my religion kept it at bay. It's like I'm a sponge now. Taking in all the information I used to lament. Feels good man, feels good.
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Your old thread saying basically the same thing isn't good enough? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=120198501

You had to make 2 threads about this?
Did you forget you made a thread about this?


U mad he's an atheist now?
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btw, just out of interest, can anyone link me to any sites where dawkins tackles Islam? I'd be interested to hear what he says about the religion. Everything I see seems to be him battling with christianity.
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lol, how is that a decent answer to the question? All he does is take the piss..

You must have watched the wrong video then, because the one in this thread had a perfectly good answer.
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It's been what? 2 days since I admitted it to myself. After the initial fear of hell passed, since i realized it doesn't exist, it feels good. It's like my mind blew open. Science is no longer my enemy. I always had a love for science, but my religion kept it at bay. It's like I'm a sponge now. Taking in all the information I used to lament. Feels good man, feels good.

Have fun burning in hell sucker.
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lol, how is that a decent answer to the question? All he does is take the piss..
are you retarded? his point demolished that stupid question
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Have fun burning in hell sucker.
I loled.


But honestly growing up I was taught to hate the like of Darwin and others of his ilk. I got years of casual reading ahead of me now. What's the best/most interesting book on evolution I can go get at the library?
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Science and religion are not incomaptible

juz sayin

Not Islam in regards to evolution anyways (not sure about Christianity)

in b4 5 star thread
Wrong, Islam also believes that humans were created by God, and did not evolve from any other organism. It's just as illogical as Christianity.
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That was my realization thread. The posts proving "why" doesn't matter sold me. Feels good
Cool well this isn't twitter.

Every time I take a **** I'll make a new thread about what it looked like. Feels good.
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u mad?
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I am not mad about the topic. I'm mad about the purpose of the thread. It's intended for trolling, if it wasn't you wouldn't have made it and just continued posting in your other thread at the very least. Either way, this isn't twitter or your body blog.
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I am not mad about the topic. I'm mad about the purpose of the thread. It's intended for trolling, if it wasn't you wouldn't have made it and just continued posting in your other thread at the very least. Either way, this isn't twitter or your body blog.
The other thread turned into an atheist vs Christianity debate. Just admit you're mad.
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I am not mad about the topic. I'm mad about the purpose of the thread. It's intended for trolling, if it wasn't you wouldn't have made it and just continued posting in your other thread at the very least. Either way, this isn't twitter or your body blog.



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It's been what? 2 days since I admitted it to myself. After the initial fear of hell passed, since i realized it doesn't exist, it feels good. It's like my mind blew open. Science is no longer my enemy. I always had a love for science, but my religion kept it at bay. It's like I'm a sponge now. Taking in all the information I used to lament. Feels good man, feels good.
I think you were just an atheist the whole time... to be quite honest.
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Certainly seems like he was a sensible person the whole time.
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It's been what? 2 days since I admitted it to myself. After the initial fear of hell passed, since i realized it doesn't exist, it feels good. It's like my mind blew open. Science is no longer my enemy. I always had a love for science, but my religion kept it at bay. It's like I'm a sponge now. Taking in all the information I used to lament. Feels good man, feels good.
Congratulations on taking another step in your journey of personal introspection.

I read your other post, but didn't see any details for what has brought you to this decision. It sounds like you had very strict parents who sheltered you and your brother with the idea of attaining a "perfect" Christian state, probably through following rules and orders of behavior. Please correct me if I'm making a false assumption.

Coupled with those rules would be the fear of going to hell and fear of Satan. At one point, believers are confronted by the statement, "Do what you're told or the devil will come get you." It's this kind of mumbo-jumbo that can seem simple when applied to correcting a misbehaving child, but can give an incorrect perception of Christianity, God, and the state of God's plan as revealed in Scripture.

As a Christian, why would you be afraid of hell or Satan? I'm not saying that it's uncommon or wrong to have a healthy wariness of Satan, but as a believing Christian, we have the reassurance and exhortation of Scripture to not be afraid. God wants us to live without fear, not be a slave to it and its whims.
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Congratulations on taking another step in your journey of personal introspection.

I read your other post, but didn't see any details for what has brought you to this decision. It sounds like you had very strict parents who sheltered you and your brother with the idea of attaining a "perfect" Christian state, probably through following rules and orders of behavior. Please correct me if I'm making a false assumption.

Coupled with those rules would be the fear of going to hell and fear of Satan. At one point, believers are confronted by the statement, "Do what you're told or the devil will come get you." It's this kind of mumbo-jumbo that can seem simple when applied to correcting a misbehaving child, but can give an incorrect perception of Christianity, God, and the state of God's plan as revealed in Scripture.

As a Christian, why would you be afraid of hell or Satan? I'm not saying that it's uncommon or wrong to have a healthy wariness of Satan, but as a believing Christian, we have the reassurance and exhortation of Scripture to not be afraid. God wants us to live without fear, not be a slave to it and its whims.
Because I was far from a perfect christian.
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