I quit drinking, for ever!

[chickeneater]

Originally Posted by Feliksas

your not man enough to control alcohol so you quit forever? thats so beta

your'e 18?


so wrong on so many levels, come back when you know more about life. Not even worth the time it takes to neg.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by chickeneater

hey t, Chicken from the other thread.

I read the first post, and will finish when I get time. Ya, I guess there is some father issues afterall...lol...

Without reading this thread, I'll say that I had a revelation about my Dad this year, or lack of him around and never realized he was an alcoholic as he covered it up so well, or not really idk.

Anyways, we had a fallout this year, and I would'nt touch a beer for 2 weeks after that, thinking about if It was having an effect on my own kids, thought I was done for sure. I ususally break out a cold one after work everyday, It may have grown into 2 a day.

Fortunately, it does'nt seem to be something thats a problem in my life, so far anyways. Looking forward to reading thread.

Yeah, read if you want. There's a lot here though . IMO there's nothing wrong with drinking as long as you can control it. When it becomes a problem is when it's time to take inventory.

Originally Posted by Feliksas

your not man enough to control alcohol so you quit forever? thats so beta

Thanks for the bump. I wouldn't blame your post on your age. There are a few 18yr olds that posted in this thread with intelligent responses. Some I even learned something from.

Your point is well taken and I agree. It is pretty "beta". Unfortunately it's something that I've had to deal with and over come the only way I know how. Which is by quitting completely. I think it would have been more "beta" to have continued on the path I was one. Just my opinion though. Anyway, thanks for the support.

All comments are welcome

[JMath]

Originally Posted by Feliksas

your not man enough to control alcohol so you quit forever? thats so beta

You don't even know what "Alpha" or "Beta" are. Stop using an internet forums definition of these words to describe something that you know nothing about. This isn't the misc, go misuse beta/alpha there.

By the way, it was so alpha of you to call him out bro, you are so cool... mom must be proud. amidoingitrite? Enjoy some red.

[JMath]

Originally Posted by NorCalJR

I made a really hard decision this past September when I turned 21 and vowed never to drink( not even on my birthday). Sure I have in the past but I have seen so much bad happen to friends in my life who did drink. Some friends think I'm weird because of it, but I just never understood the point. Also I need all the help I can get when it comes to training.

I just feel there is much more fun things to do in life then drink.

Wow. This is one of the best things I have heard in this thread. Seriously, congrats on making this decision before alcohol has taken an effect on you. I seriously wish I would have learned from all of the alcohol related incidents my friends and family had... unfortunately I had to experience it myself before I learned. There are definitely better things to do than drink.

I'll rep you on recharge. I have a lot of reps to give out in this thread... and one neg.

[AdamRA]

Originally Posted by NorCalJR

I made a really hard decision this past September when I turned 21 and vowed never to drink( not even on my birthday). Sure I have in the past but I have seen so much bad happen to friends in my life who did drink. Some friends think I'm weird because of it, but I just never understood the point. Also I need all the help I can get when it comes to training.

I just feel there is much more fun things to do in life then drink.

I quit drinking/smoking at your age best choice i've ever made !

I ended up losing friends because of it....mostly because my lifestyle took a left turn compared to thiers some went on to heavy drug use ect... now I hear they are in and out of rehab ect...

[rileybriggs]

I really want to quit drinking, except all my friends drink really heavily, and party hard. I think I need a goal to work towards, like running a marathon or BB comp...

Been drinking hard and partying for the past 3 years, pretty over it.

Howd everyone else here do it? Did you lose a lot of weight after quiting? Get better gains in the gym?

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by rileybriggs

I really want to quit drinking, except all my friends drink really heavily, and party hard. I think I need a goal to work towards, like running a marathon or BB comp...

Been drinking hard and partying for the past 3 years, pretty over it.

Howd everyone else here do it? Did you lose a lot of weight after quiting? Get better gains in the gym?

You have to have a reason. Everybody I know that has quit has quit for a reason. For me I guess it's the feeling of not being in control that I don't like. Which obviously effects everything around me.

If you're tired of partying, take a break. Maybe you'll realize, like many people do, that you just don't like it.

If you feel like you have a problem, then quit.

I don't have any advice to offer when it comes to partying at your age. I wasn't responsible enough to stop at your age. I always knew that I was somehow different than the idiots I hung with but that wasn't enough to make me stay away. It's only in the last few years that my path has changed. Most of them guys are on heroin or in jail now. Or they have a few kids that they can't support. Some are dead. It's not pretty. But I look back now and I can't believe I ever tried to fit in with them. Not to sell myself short, because I don't know for sure, but I'd say going to the Army saved me from a similar fate. But like I said, I was never really one of them to begin with.

To them I was a part of the group but I never got any real respect. They thought they were big sh!t back then. Then, years later, I was the guy that they called for help. Or the guy that they lied to and swore that they were clean to. I got tired of them though. It was the same old story over and over again. It got old.


Edit: ...to answer your question, yes you'll get better gains in the gym and yes, you WILL lose weight Amongst a million other things.

[TNetz]

Day 85 down and another weekend in the books

My wife went to New York City this weekend. I guess is was an all girl shopping spree, even though we don't have any money . She does good though. After all, she's the one that handles our finances. It's nice to have a responsible one in the house.

I feel pretty good. I thought about alcohol a lot this weekend though. I guess because I knew my wife wasn't around and maybe that sort of gave me a chance to misbehave. I guess it's kind of like when the parents go away, you throw a house party or something like that. I did good though. I never gave it a serious thought.

I had a buddy come over to watch the Fedor fight. Man that dude's for real. Anyway, he drinks a lot and he brought over his beer and I had some NA. As the night went on he started getting more sh!t faced and was pretty much the subject of me making fun of him all night Toward the end he could barely walk so I had to make fun of him. I guess you have to know him to think it's funny. All jokes aside though, it reminds me of how I was and how I'm glad I quit. When you're sober it's sort of "eye opening" to see how drunk people act.

Anyway, that was my weekend in a nut shell. It's only Saturday night but I'll probably just watch football tomorrow and hang around the house.

I hope everyone is doing good. Later.

[13seth]

I quit drinking over a year ago. I quit doing drugs and smoking 4 years ago when I found out that I got a stripper pregnant and I was going to be a father. I knew I wanted to be a responsible father and could not accept less of myself. I slowly cut down drinking and became slightly more responsible but I would always end up drinking more than I wanted to on the occasions that I did drink. I realized one day that drinking would keep my from being a father that was ALWAYS there and keep me from being what I wanted to be. The hardest part was accepting that as the truth and the fear of giving up what I felt was a part of me, but I let go and I will never drink again. It is a life changing decision and for me I will benefit from this decision for the rest of my life. I made the decision for myself, not anyone else, so I do not need anyone else to support me or be there for me, I just do it for myself.
When you see this truth and believe it 100% it will become easy.
You made one of the smartest and most beneficial decisions of vyour life and it will keep getting better, Great Job!

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by 13seth

I quit drinking over a year ago. I quit doing drugs and smoking 4 years ago when I found out that I got a stripper pregnant and I was going to be a father. I knew I wanted to be a responsible father and could not accept less of myself. I slowly cut down drinking and became slightly more responsible but I would always end up drinking more than I wanted to on the occasions that I did drink. I realized one day that drinking would keep my from being a father that was ALWAYS there and keep me from being what I wanted to be. The hardest part was accepting that as the truth and the fear of giving up what I felt was a part of me, but I let go and I will never drink again. It is a life changing decision and for me I will benefit from this decision for the rest of my life. I made the decision for myself, not anyone else, so I do not need anyone else to support me or be there for me, I just do it for myself.
When you see this truth and believe it 100% it will become easy.
You made one of the smartest and most beneficial decisions of vyour life and it will keep getting better, Great Job!

Congrats man, that's awesome. That ^^, is what separates the men from the boys. Good job and thanks for the support!!!

[JMath]

I had yet another uneventful weekend. Didn't drink. Didn't think about drinking. So far so good. I had a hearing with the Secretary of State about refusing to take the breath test and they concluded that my license will be suspended for 1 year because of it and 6 points added to my license. I am trying to get a restricted license based off of hardship, so in a few weeks hopefully that will be approved.

Glad to hear that you resisted the temptation TNetz. The Fedor fight was sick too. All the blood, and I still knew he would somehow come out with the win.

[Jacksonnn]

just stoping to wish u good luck im only 20 and alcohol is starting to effect my life negativly so i stop right now as well. will be following this thread

[JMath]

Originally Posted by Jacksonnn

just stoping to wish u good luck im only 20 and alcohol is starting to effect my life negativly so i stop right now as well. will be following this thread

Sorry to hear that your life is being affected negatively, seems like that is a frequent occurence with alcohol. Best of luck to you. It is probably better that you are aware of this all now and are able to stop now as opposed to waiting until more negative stuff happens.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by JMath

I had yet another uneventful weekend. Didn't drink. Didn't think about drinking. So far so good. I had a hearing with the Secretary of State about refusing to take the breath test and they concluded that my license will be suspended for 1 year because of it and 6 points added to my license. I am trying to get a restricted license based off of hardship, so in a few weeks hopefully that will be approved.

Glad to hear that you resisted the temptation TNetz. The Fedor fight was sick too. All the blood, and I still knew he would somehow come out with the win.

Sorry to hear about the license. Hopefully the hardship license works out. I'll keep my fingers crossed. At least it's a start towards putting all of this behind you. I'm glad to hear you're not thinking about drinking. You should probably try and get out of the house though

I mentioned above about my friend staying over last night. Well, today I spent the day cleaning my couch. I guess the idiot decided to piss himself in his sleep. Who the hell pisses themselves? It's my fault though, it's not the first time. I never should have let him near my couch to begin with. Moron, never again!

[massakra]

Originally Posted by TNetz

I had a buddy come over to watch the Fedor fight. Man that dude's for real. Anyway, he drinks a lot and he brought over his beer and I had some NA. As the night went on he started getting more sh!t faced and was pretty much the subject of me making fun of him all night Toward the end he could barely walk so I had to make fun of him. I guess you have to know him to think it's funny. All jokes aside though, it reminds me of how I was and how I'm glad I quit. When you're sober it's sort of "eye opening" to see how drunk people act.

Hi. If you really want to have happy life without alcohol you have to keep some basic rules. First is avoid alcohol and everything what remind it in first year of abstinence. So watching fight with drunk buddy, and drinking NA beer is very bad idea. You may say "ok, but i don`t drink alcohol, i have strong will ". This time you didn`t, but what if you gonna drink next time? Is it worth to try on yourself something what was tried by millions others alvoholics and didn`t work?
Peace

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by massakra

Hi. If you really want to have happy life without alcohol you have to keep some basic rules. First is avoid alcohol and everything what remind it in first year of abstinence. So watching fight with drunk buddy, and drinking NA beer is very bad idea. You may say "ok, but i don`t drink alcohol, i have strong will ". This time you didn`t, but what if you gonna drink next time? Is it worth to try on yourself something what was tried by millions others alvoholics and didn`t work?
Peace

Good point. You're right. It's tough though becuse he is a pretty good friend of mine.

You're post brings me back to when I first quit and I said that I wanted to live a healthy life without alcohol in it. I guess having a drunk friend come over and having alcohol in my house sort of contradicts that.

It is true that this friend of mine is mostly a drinking buddy. The only thing we ever use to do together is get drunk. I quit but I didn't want to damage my friendship with him so I continue to act like everything is ok when in reality it's probably not. When we do get together it is a difficult time obviously because the temptation is there. I guess I might not be so lucky next time.

It was pretty hard. When my wife went away that weekend I was already presented with a bit of a challenge and adding him to it made it a little more difficult. But I was strong and didn't give in. But I guess it did introduce a little bit of doubt as to my sobriety in the future. Even if just for a brief moment.

I know the correct way to handle this situation is to cut off all ties with my friend, or at least find other things to do together. I'll have to work on it. Honestly, I've given it a little thought and after he PISSED ON MY COUCH it is a littler easier to come to this decision .

I've tried to remain friends with him because I didn't want my decision to quit drinking to effect our friendship. He even said when I first told him "does this mean we can't hang out anymore"? I laughed it off and said that his drinking wouldn't bother me. But in reality it's only holding me down.

In reality, he has a problem. Perhaps even a bigger problem than I had with alcohol. So I can either try and lead him towards the path that I have taken or break off our friendship completely. I've been against trying to persuade him to quit because I didn't want to seem like I thought I was better than him, or anyone else for that matter but something needs to be done. I guess I'll have to tell him straight up that we can still hang out but he can't drink around me anymore. If that works out than great. If not than he wasn't a real friend and I'm better off anyway. We'll see.

Thanks for the post. It might have saved me from a future relaps. Who knows.

[JMath]

Well, I really don't have a whole lot to report... I didn't drink again. Didn't want to. Was not in a position to. And I am happy about all of that.

I did my typical thing of going over to my dad's house and hanging out with my family for the weekend. I bought a PS3 a few weeks ago, and my step brother has one too so we both bought the new Call of Duty game and played that and NCAA (football) 10 a lot. Watched some college ball on Saturday (Michigan lost again...) and that was about my whole weekend. Hope everyone is doing well and keeping with whatever goals they have whether they be workout related, alcohol related, or any other personal matter.

[dfunk]

I just wanted to say congratulations on 90 some odd days of sobriety! That's quite an accomplishment. I am a recovering heroin addict and coming up on 7 months myself. AA and bodybuilding has given me another reason to exist in this life. Just wanted to say keep it up and IF I CAN DO IT ANYBODY CAN.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by JMath

Well, I really don't have a whole lot to report... I didn't drink again. Didn't want to. Was not in a position to. And I am happy about all of that.

I did my typical thing of going over to my dad's house and hanging out with my family for the weekend. I bought a PS3 a few weeks ago, and my step brother has one too so we both bought the new Call of Duty game and played that and NCAA (football) 10 a lot. Watched some college ball on Saturday (Michigan lost again...) and that was about my whole weekend. Hope everyone is doing well and keeping with whatever goals they have whether they be workout related, alcohol related, or any other personal matter.

Good job JMath. That new COD game looks pretty sweet.

Originally Posted by dfunk

I just wanted to say congratulations on 90 some odd days of sobriety! That's quite an accomplishment. I am a recovering heroin addict and coming up on 7 months myself. AA and bodybuilding has given me another reason to exist in this life. Just wanted to say keep it up and IF I CAN DO IT ANYBODY CAN.

Thanks for the support. Congrats on the seven months clean and sober! I think you're right when you say if you can do it anybody can. That's no easy feat.


My weekend wasn't bad. I went to another Steelers game and watched them lose to the Bungles . (Contgrats to cincinnati fans, it's been a while.)

I didn't drink or want to at all. I never thought about it at all, even when we came back to the car and found that somebody had broken into it. Damn crackheads. They didn't get anything of real value though. They even left all of my metal CDs LOL. I guess old school Sepultura and Iron Maiden don't appeal to crackheads, go figure . They got in through the rear window of our Wrangler 4 door.

A little update to my friend above. I had a talk with him and told him that he couldn't drink when he comes over anymore. It was a good heart to heart talk and I explained where I was coming from well. I told him that I didn't think it should effect out friendship and that we could find other stuff to do. Well, I told him that I'd be watching the UFC fight on Sat. and he declined. It's the first time we've missed a fight together. I guess he decided that sitting at home with a bottle by himself would be more fun. O'well, that's the way it goes sometimes. If that continues than he can enjoy pissing on his own damn couch

Anyway, I'm glad everyone is doing good. I started a new workout routine that I'm pretty excited about and I'm focusing on getting enough sleep everyday. I'm sick of staying up late and feeling run down all the time. It's all about disipline.

[TNetz]

I just wanted to say (and I'm not bragging here..ok maybe a little) I matched my all time high bench press today. 315 clean baby

That's where I was a few years ago before I let alcohol take over my life. It feels damn good to be back on track. Hopefully I'll be able to top that some time down the road. We'll see.

[JMath]

Originally Posted by TNetz

I just wanted to say (and I'm not bragging here..ok maybe a little) I matched my all time high bench press today. 315 clean baby

That's where I was a few years ago before I let alcohol take over my life. It feels damn good to be back on track. Hopefully I'll be able to top that some time down the road. We'll see.

Congrats! I really need to get motivated and get my ass working out again. I have not worked out consistently in probably like a year. I really have no excuse either, Thursday-Sunday I really don't do much of anything.

[TNetz]

Thanks buddy.

Get your butt in the gym! j/k man. But seriously if I didn't I wouldn't have anyway to relieve stress. You being in the situation you're in, it would probably help big time.

I'm still new here so don't take that as me thinking I know what I'm talking about lol.

[Lefty718]

this thread is very motivational. Never knew there were so many non-drinkers out there. Seems like everyone drinks, does drugs, smokes now adays. Hard to exist in a social environment without being involved with any of them.

GL to the original poster.Don't think about it so much, go the gym, on weekends find a new kind of hobby that gets your mind off the alcohol. AA meetings are a good plan, you meet people like you, and have a buddy to call or chill with when your itching for a drink. U got this!

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by Lefty718

this thread is very motivational. Never knew there were so many non-drinkers out there. Seems like everyone drinks, does drugs, smokes now adays. Hard to exist in a social environment without being involved with any of them.

GL to the original poster.Don't think about it so much, go the gym, on weekends find a new kind of hobby that gets your mind off the alcohol. AA meetings are a good plan, you meet people like you, and have a buddy to call or chill with when your itching for a drink. U got this!

Thanks for the support. There's a bunch of us here and there are a few threads on BB.com that are related, each with a different group of members. My view point on alcohol and drugs in general have definitley changed (as many others have as well). I realize now that I was a part of the minority.

[Uncle_Tony]

If you can have fun without alcohol in your life, then more power to you. I and a lot of others can't. Sure it ****s you up from time to time, but it's a fair trade off between enjoyment and bodily damage. No one is going to live "for ever", people need to face up to that. The key to minimize the negative effects is obviously to avoid binging and control the frequency of consumption.

I have implemented a rule for myself, for every 60ml of alcohol I drink I will go 1 day without it. 180-240ml in the weekends is alright to get drunk and have a whole week to recover.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Tony

If you can have fun without alcohol in your life, then more power to you. I and a lot of others can't. Sure it ****s you up from time to time, but it's a fair trade off between enjoyment and bodily damage. No one is going to live "for ever", people need to face up to that. The key to minimize the negative effects is obviously to avoid binging and control the frequency of consumption.

I have implemented a rule for myself, for every 60ml of alcohol I drink I will go 1 day without it. 180-240ml in the weekends is alright to get drunk and have a whole week to recover.

I guess it depends on your definition of enjoyment. I'd imagine everybody is different. If you find enjoyment in getting hammerd on the weekends than go for it. I'm not here to sway anybody that doesn't want/need to quit. Nor am I here to put down alcohol (although it might seem that way) but there is a fine line between enjoyment and dependency. I don't care how much anyone loves alcohol, if that person depends on it than that person might want to think about why alcohol has so much control over them.

It's no secret that alcohol induces a feeling of enjoyment. We'll call that enjoyment "artificial" for the sake of discussion. When you become dependent on this artificial enjoyment you begin to lose the natrual ability to enjoy. You can no longer enjoy things without that "fix". This introduces a reality that we are no longer in control.

I have been on a mission in the last three months to gain back that ability to natually enjoy life. Not atificially. It's been an eye opening experince to say the least. There is life without alcohol believe it or not.

If you like to drink, than more power to you. But keep these things in mind and know that moderation is key.

I'm not here to tell anyone they have a problem. Thanks for the support.

Edit: Good job maintaining your intake. I could not do this, at least not for very long.

[JMath]

Originally Posted by TNetz

I guess it depends on your definition of enjoyment. I'd imagine everybody is different. If you find enjoyment in getting hammerd on the weekends than go for it. I'm not here to sway anybody that doesn't want/need to quit. Nor am I here to put down alcohol (although it might seem that way) but there is a fine line between enjoyment and dependency. I don't care how much anyone loves alcohol, if that person depends on it than that person might want to think about why alcohol has so much control over them.

It's no secret that alcohol induces a feeling of enjoyment. We'll call that enjoyment "artificial" for the sake of discussion. When you become dependent on this artificial enjoyment you begin to lose the natrual ability to enjoy. You can no longer enjoy things without that "fix". This introduces a reality that we are no longer in control.

I have been on a mission in the last three months to gain back that ability to natually enjoy life. Not atificially. It's been an eye opening experince to say the least. There is life without alcohol believe it or not.

If you like to drink, than more power to you. But keep these things in mind and know that moderation is key.

I'm not here to tell anyone they have a problem. Thanks for the support.

I completely agree with this post. No doubt booze can create some enjoyable times, but for most people it seems that alcohol leads to more alcohol and people end up progressively doing more stupid drunken things until something major happens. It happened to me, and a ton of people I know. I see the writing on the wall for a lot of my friends, but I'll never judge them, or push my new found life style onto them.

And TNetz, I am definitely going to be getting back to a regular workout routine. Like you said, it will most likely help me with a ton of the stress I have been under recently.

[Uncle_Tony]

There are different kinds of enjoyment, if you go trekking, swimming or on some crazy rollercoaster rides you don't need alcohol to have fun. It's more of a social lubricant to enable some people to enjoy parties and just human gatherings, which are boring while sober.

I do agree that dependency is **** and anyone experiencing it needs to take steps to remedy it.

Originally Posted by TNetz

I guess it depends on your definition of enjoyment. I'd imagine everybody is different. If you find enjoyment in getting hammerd on the weekends than go for it. I'm not here to sway anybody that doesn't want/need to quit. Nor am I here to put down alcohol (although it might seem that way) but there is a fine line between enjoyment and dependency. I don't care how much anyone loves alcohol, if that person depends on it than that person might want to think about why alcohol has so much control over them.

It's no secret that alcohol induces a feeling of enjoyment. We'll call that enjoyment "artificial" for the sake of discussion. When you become dependent on this artificial enjoyment you begin to lose the natrual ability to enjoy. You can no longer enjoy things without that "fix". This introduces a reality that we are no longer in control.

I have been on a mission in the last three months to gain back that ability to natually enjoy life. Not atificially. It's been an eye opening experince to say the least. There is life without alcohol believe it or not.

If you like to drink, than more power to you. But keep these things in mind and know that moderation is key.

I'm not here to tell anyone they have a problem. Thanks for the support.

[silverlightning]

OP, keep it going. i know for me, there are times when I'll drink to the early mornings of the next day. the only thing it does is, hold you back. last weekend was my first in over a month of not drinking. going for two, then three, etc. will try and stay as sober/low consumption during the holidays as possible. my biggest goal is to not drink as much, then stop for long periods or time.

[TNetz]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Tony

There are different kinds of enjoyment, if you go trekking, swimming or on some crazy rollercoaster rides you don't need alcohol to have fun. It's more of a social lubricant to enable some people to enjoy parties and just human gatherings, which are boring while sober.

I do agree that dependency is **** and anyone experiencing it needs to take steps to remedy it.

In my opinion, you're just not to that level, which is a damn good thing. There does come a point in an alcoholics career where trekking, swimming, and yes, even some crazy rollercoaster rides do require alcohol to have fun . But in reality, alcoholics usually don't even do these things. They usually substitute them with going to get drunk instead.

That said, alcohol IS a social lubricant, like you said. For me it's interesting to be put in these same social situations and not need it. I'm not going to lie, it is difficult at times and it's been a learning process but it is possible. And, it also becomes a little more enjoyable because of the lack of negative BS that acohol can create. If you read this thread in the future, I talked about some of this. Little things like being able to drive my wife home after a night out. Maybe it comes with age, I don't know, but I find value in that. That is just one example of many though.

Like I said, those of us that chose not to drink have taken a step outside of the box so to speak and taken on the little challenges in an attempt to change a life style.

To each his own. At least you're aware and smart enough to limit how much you drink.